JOE!
Smash Hero
what i mean by that is that it may not directly hit his spine like with a our turtles
how would ganon even his his spine again?
how would ganon even his his spine again?
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TDB: SEASON 2! LEON (RE4) vs LARA CROFT
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3 things:
1. I don't want to sound like a *** but sooooooooo many grammar errors that I can't even understand the question.
2. It's season 2 you guys.
3. I don't think you understand that platemail won't slow a person down. The reason troops today are weighted and slow is because they wear full bulletproof armor that weighs like over 30 lbs. Platemail weighs like half. Plus troops today have to carry ammo, supplies, guns, all that stuff. A knight would just need something to carry his massive balls... and his sword.
JOE!
Smash Hero
ok, but what I asked was if ganon could even reach the spine with his sword?
payasofobia
Smash Champion
Well....I went back and saw Marth Trinity's post. He said pretty much what I was going to say.
But I'll bring a nifty little point that ensures that Sephiroth loses for good. First things first.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tachi
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uchigatana
Keeping it brief:
The tachi the closest thing we get in real life to Sephy's hilariously long sword that still could be used for combat.
It was a relatively long sword that was used by horse riders to cut down infantry and also had the nifty little advantage of still being usable while on foot. But even then, use on foot was incredibly awkward thanks to the heaviness of the sword and it's uneven weight distribution.
Because of this, it was necessary to create a much smaller and lighter weapon that could deliver lightning fast strikes and was easier to use on foot. This sword was the Uchigatana. This deadly combination of long and short sword became a staple of sword combat until the mongols invaded.
Now, read the weaknesses the tachi has and let it sink into your head. That must have been a ridiculously big sword for it to have been that difficult to use, right?
No. 78cm.
http://www.antiqueswordsguide.com/tachi-swords
Just a little more than two 30 cm rulers glued together. Andf yet it was difficult enough to use that a new weapon was crafted to compensate for it's blind sides.
Now make that even longer than the scrawny guy who is wielding it and you'll get what I am getting at:
And another little tidbit of information: the Katana, roughly the same weapon Gray Fox uses, it's the japanese's response to the Tachi's weaknesses. Basically, it is an upgrade to the tachi, mixing long range and lethal blows with surprise attacks.
All of this which is increased a tenfold by Gray Fox's body, which is a Power Suit in itself, and I already went out of my way to explain just how ridiculously tough power suits are in real life before. And let's not mention that this sword is also part taser, capable of delivering powerful electric shocks with each swipe.
Hell, if I remember correctly, Gray Fox can also deliver electric shocks with a simple touch and electrify his whole body.
If I had to say it my own way, I would say that Sephy is ****ed.
But I'll bring a nifty little point that ensures that Sephiroth loses for good. First things first.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tachi
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uchigatana
Keeping it brief:
The tachi the closest thing we get in real life to Sephy's hilariously long sword that still could be used for combat.
It was a relatively long sword that was used by horse riders to cut down infantry and also had the nifty little advantage of still being usable while on foot. But even then, use on foot was incredibly awkward thanks to the heaviness of the sword and it's uneven weight distribution.
Because of this, it was necessary to create a much smaller and lighter weapon that could deliver lightning fast strikes and was easier to use on foot. This sword was the Uchigatana. This deadly combination of long and short sword became a staple of sword combat until the mongols invaded.
Now, read the weaknesses the tachi has and let it sink into your head. That must have been a ridiculously big sword for it to have been that difficult to use, right?
No. 78cm.
http://www.antiqueswordsguide.com/tachi-swords
Just a little more than two 30 cm rulers glued together. Andf yet it was difficult enough to use that a new weapon was crafted to compensate for it's blind sides.
Now make that even longer than the scrawny guy who is wielding it and you'll get what I am getting at:
And another little tidbit of information: the Katana, roughly the same weapon Gray Fox uses, it's the japanese's response to the Tachi's weaknesses. Basically, it is an upgrade to the tachi, mixing long range and lethal blows with surprise attacks.
All of this which is increased a tenfold by Gray Fox's body, which is a Power Suit in itself, and I already went out of my way to explain just how ridiculously tough power suits are in real life before. And let's not mention that this sword is also part taser, capable of delivering powerful electric shocks with each swipe.
Hell, if I remember correctly, Gray Fox can also deliver electric shocks with a simple touch and electrify his whole body.
If I had to say it my own way, I would say that Sephy is ****ed.
Rialdospaldacht
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So let's review:
Sephiroth has a sword that's too long to use, and no armor except on his shoulders
Gray Fox has full body armor, a useable sword, stealth camo if we allow it, may have an arm cannon, and may have heightened reflexes and movement speed if we allow it. Also many more years of fighting experience.
This has gotta be one of the most unfair MUs yet.
Sephiroth has a sword that's too long to use, and no armor except on his shoulders
Gray Fox has full body armor, a useable sword, stealth camo if we allow it, may have an arm cannon, and may have heightened reflexes and movement speed if we allow it. Also many more years of fighting experience.
This has gotta be one of the most unfair MUs yet.
MarthTrinity
Smash Lord
To further add to the insult...near the end of MGS, Gray Fox is shown to be strong enough (with his suit) to keep Metal Gear Rex from crushing himself and Snake...he also breaks some solider's arm with one hand. Not only that, but if it's at all realistically possible, he does in fact have an arm canon capable of firing energy blasts. That and in the cutscene right before his boss fight, he's shown to have reflexes capable of cutting bullets out of the air.
He's also been shown to be exceptional at CQC (not quite as good at it as Snake apparently but he's certainly up there).
He's also been shown to be exceptional at CQC (not quite as good at it as Snake apparently but he's certainly up there).
payasofobia
Smash Champion
You would be surprised Marth. Power suits are, as the guy running a video I posted here about power suits said, powerful enough to lift missiles with one hand and dexterous enough to play football. And that was a huuuge and outdated power suit.
As for energy blasts, they would be weakened, but it would still be realistic for him to have that.
As for energy blasts, they would be weakened, but it would still be realistic for him to have that.
payasofobia
Smash Champion
Like I said, Sephy's sword is a masamune in name only. Real life masamune looks more like this:
Than the chunk of iron Sephy is carrying around.
Hence why I said that the closest thing we got in real life that resembles his sword is the tachi, and even then it is a far cry from an actual tachi. Point is: noone in their right senses would think about making a sword like that IRL because of how unreliable it is.
Sgt. Baker
Smash Ace
Sooooo, first I was rooting for Sephiroth in my post but after seeing the facts........he is clearly screwed in a real life battle against Gray Fox I believe haha. They bth are great military soldiers trained hard but yeah Gray Fox just has much, much more things going for him
EDIT: I like that shiny masamune ^_^
EDIT: I like that shiny masamune ^_^
Sgt. Baker
Smash Ace
I was lol'ng with the mixture. I first thought two MU's were ging on at once
Xiahou Dun
Smash Ace
Masamune's a brand name dude. He didn't make swords any differently to anyone else. He was regarded as the best of the bunch when it came to swordsmiths of his day but Masamune would still make Katana's Tachi's etc just like everyone else.
payasofobia
Smash Champion
So....new MU? Because I sure hope there is a new MU featuring the Black Knight from PoR.
Also, how do I accept invitation to the backroom? Got the message, but got no accept button as far as I can see.
Also, how do I accept invitation to the backroom? Got the message, but got no accept button as far as I can see.
Nihongo-ookami
Smash Journeyman
Black Knight VS Nightmare(Soul Calibur)
Just putting it out there.
I'd also like to see what you guys think about Mega Man matchups.
Just putting it out there.
I'd also like to see what you guys think about Mega Man matchups.
JOE!
Smash Hero
was waiting for a new page.....
MarthTrinity
Smash Lord
Dingodile wins this one IMO. He's got a flamethrower with a good deal of fuel readily available for him whereas Rool...well, Rool has a weapon of questionable usefulness. While he could probably kill or do a great deal of damage to Dingodile if he connects with it, he does have to reload if he misses...as
Granted if Rool even so much as barely hits Dingodile, 'Dile is likely to explode considering he's more or less got a bomb strapped to his back. That being said though...from what I've researched, it seems as though modern day flamethrowers can have a range of up to 270 feet. That would easily be enough to fry Rool before he could get in range methinks...
Granted if Rool even so much as barely hits Dingodile, 'Dile is likely to explode considering he's more or less got a bomb strapped to his back. That being said though...from what I've researched, it seems as though modern day flamethrowers can have a range of up to 270 feet. That would easily be enough to fry Rool before he could get in range methinks...
Nihongo-ookami
Smash Journeyman
What game is Dingodile from?
JOE!
Smash Hero
Dingodile is a very-recurring boss from Crash bandicoot
REL38
Smash Lord
Seeing as how Blunderbusts have trouble piercing suits of armor, I question it causing the Australian thing's tank to explode
Kinda wish K.Rool had this
@JOE
What do you mean by "cannon"?
As in, literal pirate ship cannon?
*my yellow name burns my eyes!*
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deadliest_Warrior#Episode_4:_Pirate_vs_Knight
Lolwut?
Sigh. Let me PM Killjoy...
Xiahou Dun
Smash Ace
I doubt you could miss with a Blunderbuss even if you were trying.
JOE!
Smash Hero
yes, K.Rool has access toa pirate Cannon
Nihongo-ookami
Smash Journeyman
Just watched all the battles for each of the guys, and from what I see, K.Rool's got this. Why?
Watch the DKC2 K.Rool Battle. Not only does he ALSO have a flamethrower(not as powerful as dingodiles, mind you), but that big-*** blunderbuss can also suck in things. And if it has the ability to suck in big cannonballs and spit out ghost-like things, I'm pretty sure it could absorb the flame. Just an estimate.
Plus, The Blunderbuss's cannonballs(oddly enough) are rather large. I doubt the flamethrower could stop them at all. Slow them, maybe. Stop them, I'm not sure.
My summary of the battle:
K.Rool jsut sits and sucks in the flames that dingodile's flamethrower emits. Eventually, Dingodile will run out of fuel, leaving him to go hand to hand. However, as noted in the DKC2 boss battle, K.Rool has a small jet/flamethrower inside of his blunderbuss, which he can use to kind of skim around on the ground. This gives him some much improved mobility.
Plus, as noted in the DKC1 Boss battle, He can jump rather high, and he's a big guy, he can tackle, and hell, he can throw his crown!(Not very effective, mind you).
So I'm giving it to K.Rool. Dingodile's got the flamethrower, but once you get past that, he doesn't have much going for him.
Watch the DKC2 K.Rool Battle. Not only does he ALSO have a flamethrower(not as powerful as dingodiles, mind you), but that big-*** blunderbuss can also suck in things. And if it has the ability to suck in big cannonballs and spit out ghost-like things, I'm pretty sure it could absorb the flame. Just an estimate.
Plus, The Blunderbuss's cannonballs(oddly enough) are rather large. I doubt the flamethrower could stop them at all. Slow them, maybe. Stop them, I'm not sure.
My summary of the battle:
K.Rool jsut sits and sucks in the flames that dingodile's flamethrower emits. Eventually, Dingodile will run out of fuel, leaving him to go hand to hand. However, as noted in the DKC2 boss battle, K.Rool has a small jet/flamethrower inside of his blunderbuss, which he can use to kind of skim around on the ground. This gives him some much improved mobility.
Plus, as noted in the DKC1 Boss battle, He can jump rather high, and he's a big guy, he can tackle, and hell, he can throw his crown!(Not very effective, mind you).
So I'm giving it to K.Rool. Dingodile's got the flamethrower, but once you get past that, he doesn't have much going for him.
JOE!
Smash Hero
tell us how his blunderbuss can suck in flames and not catch fire again?
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I say K.Rool should win this.
With huge bias of coarse.
With huge bias of coarse.
Nihongo-ookami
Smash Journeyman
Well, given that he has a jet of flame spewing out of it when he uses it like a jet, it's pretty much a given that he has a method of protecting it from flames. If it can expel flames, it's used to the heat, and while he probably can't absorb much, he could absorb it while walking out of Dingodile's range. If the heat becomes too much for him, he could jump or run away.
Although, now that I think about it, he has to have a fuel source in there, and the absorption of flame probably would wind up igniting it. I didn't think about that...
Where would their battle be fought?
Although, now that I think about it, he has to have a fuel source in there, and the absorption of flame probably would wind up igniting it. I didn't think about that...
Where would their battle be fought?
Smooth Criminal
Da Cheef
Realism, Weeaboo Furry-Kun.
A real blunderbuss cannot absorb fire. XD
Smooth Criminal
A real blunderbuss cannot absorb fire. XD
Smooth Criminal
JOE!
Smash Hero
Yeah, battles are fought in as neutral a setting as possible to eliminate "enviroment" advantages or disadvantages, as each side would have a place where theyd be good/bad
REL38
Smash Lord
@Nova
Really?
Then my memory served me wrong with the Blunderbust
@JOE
If K.Rool is allowed a cannon, why wasn't Mario Bros. and Peach?
Really?
Then my memory served me wrong with the Blunderbust
@JOE
If K.Rool is allowed a cannon, why wasn't Mario Bros. and Peach?
Nihongo-ookami
Smash Journeyman
In all the times I've seen dingodile, he's been real content to stay in one place and shoot. Meanwhile, K.Rool has mobility. Even though he's a big guy, he can jump pretty freakin high, and he can run decently fast. I don't think he'd have too much trouble dodging the flamethrower. If it hit him, it'd hurt, but that would be kind of hard.
Cannonballs > Flame at this point, methinks.
Cannonballs > Flame at this point, methinks.
Sieguest
Smash Master
The part in red is a game mechanic.
It wouldn't be much for Dingodile to move and adjust as K.Rool moves.
JOE!
Smash Hero
Rel...when the hell did the mario guys use cannons to actually attack?
if you say bullet bill......
if you say bullet bill......
Sieguest
Smash Master
Needs more JOE! playing the airship levels of the Super Mario World games.Rel...when the hell did the mario guys use cannons to actually attack?
if you say bullet bill......
Bowza got cannons yo. (those that aren't bullet bills. >.>)
REL38
Smash Lord
Payas once brought it up, you dismissed itRel...when the hell did the mario guys use cannons to actually attack?
if you say bullet bill......
SMB2, I believe
Nova they made a mistake in that episode, when they tested the blunderbuss I believe, the target wasn't fully clad, they just put an armor plate in, Knights have extra armor under that i.e. chainmail which would fully absorb any shots that managed to pierce the plate.
JOE!
Smash Hero
no, they had chainmail under that plater dude. The pellets went right through
there was a weapon they mis-tested tho.
EDIT: the flintlock pistol was mis-tested (no chainmail, clothes, ect.). but it still didn't matter lol
actually JOE I JUST watched it, when the blunderbuss was tested there was no chainmail, clothes, ect. under it. stop lying.