The Pokedex. PT doesn't care enough to analyze 120 matchups. (Update 7/16)

[Buuda]

Yeah Luigi and MK are the toughest for me, personally. AND MARIO. |:<

 

[Bestiarius]

Metaknight is a terrible matchup for everybody but Ninjalink, but it seems that a Charizard-Squirtle battery could be almost effective. Charizard outranges MK, and Squirtle's aerial speed is faster and he has nearly lagless aerials too. Of course, Ivy gets destroyed, but I think the other two could hold their own. I know this runs counter to conventional thought, so tell me why I'm wrong. Please.

 

[Magik0722]

Charizard gets destroyed by mach tornado

squirtle gets destroyed by disjoined hitboxes

 

[Steeler]

not only that but charizard cannot approach at all and his defensive game only works if the MK doesn't know the matchup...

squirtle doesn't get destroyed by the hitboxes imo. they are a hassle but he can maneuver around them alright. his recovery+weight combination is more of a problem imo.

 

[Bestiarius]

Why don't wavebounced flamethrowers work for approaching?

 

[Steeler]

it's good to toss in every now and then but

1. he can tornado through it

2. it's slow

3. with proper SDI you either do little damage or take a nair/uair string/dair/etc

 

[Zigsta]

Using Flamethrower really isn't worth it against MK. You want to use as lagless attacks as possible against MK, and Flamethrower's lag is way too easy for MK to punish.

Sometimes you can bait a Mach Tornado with Flamethrower and then counterattack with Rock Smash, but that's a gimmick at best. Any MK that knows the MU at all or is relatively smart won't fall for that.

 

[The Nameless Wanderer]

Wait, Charizard outranges MK?

 

[Magik0722]

technically he does, but he still loses because of disjointed hitboxes

 

[Steeler]

and meta knight is faster and much more flexible than charizard by leaps and bounds

 

[_clinton]

But his wears a mash, just what does he have to hide? ^_^

 

[CHOMPY]

You can use Charizard's Ftilt when Metaknight is on the ground or when Metaknight uses his ground game approach. Although, Metaknight is in the air most of the time, so you pretty much want to use Charizard's bair to space yourself. I believe Charizard's Uair comes out quickly, so you could spam that move, just use it when Metaknight is above you.