Tips on how to Sandbag like a Pro

[X1-12]

"Sandbagging is the act of playing poorly on purpose."

I'm not claiming to be a superb player or anything, but when trying to get new players into melee I feel it necessary to sandbag them, quite heavily, yet I have trouble doing this convincingly. I already know one non-tourney casual player who thinks its no fun playing me because I'll beat him too hard. This sucks. How do I sandbag? Playing with one hand is too obvious. Any tips from pro sandbaggers? I am talking mainly about players who know either none, or maybe 1 or 2 easy ATs

 

[Lovage]

why would you sandbag on purpose

what a dooche

 

[Kanelol]

Just try playing without a certain AT, wavedashing or L-Cancelling, etc. etc.

 

[Vts]

why would you sandbag on purpose

what a dooche

to help friend get better at something is only real reason.

cus if you **** him to much he just quits and says there is no way to beat it.

thats only reason why i sandbag lol.

its also time for me to try new terrible ideas.... very bad ideas

 

[Kanelol]

why would you sandbag on purpose

what a dooche

you can sandbag on accident

wut

 

[INSANE CARZY GUY]

B only falcon you'll run up sheild and full hop falcon punch out of it. works amazingly. I've been playing falcon punch dittos for some time today.

how about you play as pichu or kirby ot ness they suck

 

[Nø Ca$h]

only punish and di 50%of the time

 

[Roneblaster]

only try when doing combos.

thats how i play for real, lololol

just round around and do ****, then when you get a hit, focus.

 

[X1-12]

only try when doing combos.

thats how i play for real, lololol

just round around and do ****, then when you get a hit, focus.

is it not a bit unconvincing when they land 8 really lame un-sequential hits on you then you combo them to death in 3 seconds, then suddenly become crap again?

 

[Jonas]

Space poorly, look at your own character and ignore your opponent's character, avoid punishing a lot of mistakes etc.

But really, the best way to train someone is to notice if they do a mistake repeatedly and then tell them and stuff like that.

 

[Tee ay eye]

you can sandbag on accident

wut

definitely

it's called not having the motivation to win

or being lazy and not putting in the effort to ****

or only enough effort needed to win

 

[ChivalRuse]

LOL Master mindgames people into sandbagging by sandbagging. It's so deep.

 

[Roneblaster]

im not saying dont di, di'ing should be a reaction, not something you try. basically this

Space poorly, look at your own character and ignore your opponent's character, avoid punishing a lot of mistakes etc.

But really, the best way to train someone is to notice if they do a mistake repeatedly and then tell them and stuff like that.

only when you get that hit, ****.

im gonna try to upload a video of me vs a friend, i 4 and 3 stock him when i care @ all in marth dittoes, and ill show one match like that, then im gonna put up a vid of him winning one.

 

[victra♥]

i just play a lot slower, punish a lot less and i let them get their combos off.

why would you sandbag on purpose

what a dooche

lol

 

[JPOBS]

just play falcon.

its pretty impossible to beat anyone decent with that character.

 

[ChivalRuse]

Play Falcon and approach. GG.

 

[Roneblaster]

uploading a vid.

i 4-stock stock him one match, am up 4-2 stocks the very next match and lose the match.

take notes

 

[Animal]

do a dumb move repeatedly, try to be as funny as possible, try such insane mindgames that theres no chance it will work but if it does, epic.

 

[Jimbo Slice]

Try to mindgame like the Interesting Cereal Gang. In your attempts you'll obviously fail, nobody mindgames like ICG, and sandbagging will ensue. Success.

 

[Roneblaster]

How To Sandbag Like A Champion:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6ZUn8I4Lyk

 

[victra♥]

Play Falcon and approach. GG.

looooooooooooooooooooool. Best post ive seen in a while.

 

[qwaszx7410]

I like to play as Link/Y. Link using only my feet and hookshot or play Falcon using only nairs and upB. That way they'll be able to live to decently high percentages if they have any recovery skills and I can still work on spacing and shuffling.

 

[FoxLisk]

depends on their level. if they're really bad, you have to be slow and boring and occasionally combo them really hard to remind them why they want to be good at the game. if they're learning stuff but can't really combo that well, etc, DI wrong or dont DI, tell them what they're doing wrong, and stuff to improve.

 

[MikeHaggarTHAKJB]

end combos early and only punish them for the dumbest **** they make. intentionally miss attacks on purpose giving them a chance to punsih you but dont make it to obvious that youre doing it on purpose

 

[S l o X]

do a dumb move repeatedly, try to be as funny as possible, try such insane mindgames that theres no chance it will work but if it does, epic.

i hate when this happens. it only happens to me when i'm destroying my brother and he just gives up so picks falco and spams it fsmash.

yo if someone does this to me and isn't my brother and isn't a friend i'm just unplugging my controller.

lol seriously. /rage

 

[Jim Morrison]

Walk into some obvious stuff.
Do some obvious stuff and see if he avoids them and then point out "man you shouldnt just walk in like that!"

 

[PB&J]

rock crock sandbags all the time

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

When i sandbag i like to kill with moves that don't really have enough knockback to do it. Like once i found out that jigglypuff dies off the top of FD from marth's dair around 212%. Also, sometimes it can be fun to kill people with nothing but fairs and jabs. Once i get that done and still 2-3 stock them, i move on to some other character.

 

[PB&J]

me and soft just dash dance wave dash back , up tilt, and bair..try it , its fun

 

[mastermoo420]

Sandbagging should only be done for a little bit, and, like people have said, taking out ATs is a good way; don't SHFFL, don't L-cancel at all, actually; don't wavedash, etc. - play like when you first started playing Smash (if you played before learning competitive ATs) and go from there. Since you're sandbagging anyways, slow it down to make sure you're not going too advanced.

Space poorly, look at your own character and ignore your opponent's character, avoid punishing a lot of mistakes etc.

But really, the best way to train someone is to notice if they do a mistake repeatedly and then tell them and stuff like that.

^ this as well

To help them improve, I think you should just focus on punishing the exact same mistake over and over and only that one while making the same mistake over and over and leaving little/no openings on other moves. Punishing is ultimately what the game comes down to, and you could start teaching your friend like that.

Not that I'm a pro or anything, but my $0.02. P:

 

[CTL17]

If someone rolls way too much, play Jigglypuff, stand one roll's distance away, wait for the roll, rest. That's how I get all of my friends to stop rolling.

 

[AceDudeyeah]

Play Falcon and approach. GG.

HAHAHA

I play Young Link when trying to give someone a challenging but not devastating match. If not....Falco

basically, play your tertiary characters(Tertiary---->Secondary----->Primary).

 

[CloneHat]

If you know you're going to win, you're already sandbagging.

 

[slartibartfast42]

I sandbag by picking fox and doing technical stuff with complete disregard for spacing and mixups, so I end up jumping into a lot of things and being really predictable. It's convincing on scrubs, and half the time I'll still win.

EDIT: of course then when the scrub still keeps coming close to winning or potentially winning and says "all that tech skill is pointless it doesn't actually help you," you just 4-stock them and say "I was totally trolling you that whole time."

Also, I remember at a local game store melee tournament where no one else there was good at all, which I noticed from watching friendlies beforehand, there were seeding rounds to make the tournament last longer since not many people showed up. I picked captain falcon and used nothing but punch and kick for the seeding rounds. Still won some of them somehow... <_<

 

[victra♥]

If you know you're going to win, you're already sandbagging.

ohohoho this actually

 

[SmasherLink]

Ganondorf is a great character to use, due to powerful attacks and his meteor smash, then use his warlock punch, or HRB (Home-Run Bat).

 

[victra♥]

Ganondorf is a great character to use, due to powerful attacks and his meteor smash, then use his warlock punch, or HRB (Home-Run Bat).

best post in this thread

 

[Rappster]

best post in this thread

by far.
i have seen the light: i must now follow smasherlink's every post with religious fanaticism so that i may catch every pearl of wisdom that falls from his heavenly nine-year-old keyboard

 

[SpiderBubble]

Don't be a Falcon main. Play Falcon. Always go for the spikes that you know you can't recover from and kill yourself after you do so.

Always kill with spikes. Always.

Play Pichu.

 

[KAOSTAR]

If they wont play against you because you are good and have put time into this game.

F*** em!

dont need no punk *** *****es. Melee isnt the game for them if they cant take an *** whooping. Its been out for too long and has a pretty high learning curve. Ppl like that probably just wont make it in this scene.