Shadow Moth
Up in the clouds
I thought you said your GF created purple TL. XP
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Toon Link Match-up Video and Critique Thread
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Shadow Moth
Up in the clouds
I see...
You sure you created him?
I've rumors of some Sakurai guy...
Dunno who he is but people say he created everything, except one of his servants served him a rotten grape one day and he got angry and put in tripping.
You sure you created him?
I've rumors of some Sakurai guy...
Dunno who he is but people say he created everything, except one of his servants served him a rotten grape one day and he got angry and put in tripping.
Shadow Moth
Up in the clouds
ORLY? What did he say?
TLMSheikant
Smash Master
Shadow Moth
Up in the clouds
Myuru~. Too many bombs.
Well actually more like not enough other stuff. You see, bombs are good when you use them effectively but in order to do that your opponent can't be expecting them, myu.
You have to mix it up a little or you'll never be able to camp better players effectively, myu. I thought you were starting to get it with the boomerang stuff and when you bair'd the Wolf into your bomb but then you went back to bombs again.
Myuu~...
In other words, try to have a little more variety otherwise your opponent will get used to your style pretty quickly.
You have to deep them on their toes, myu!
Well actually more like not enough other stuff. You see, bombs are good when you use them effectively but in order to do that your opponent can't be expecting them, myu.
You have to mix it up a little or you'll never be able to camp better players effectively, myu. I thought you were starting to get it with the boomerang stuff and when you bair'd the Wolf into your bomb but then you went back to bombs again.
Myuu~...
In other words, try to have a little more variety otherwise your opponent will get used to your style pretty quickly.
You have to deep them on their toes, myu!
TLMSheikant
Smash Master
Well its was pirate ship...u cant really arrow cancel there. SO i mainly bomb camp.
Shadow Moth
Up in the clouds
Myuru. I recently learned it's possible to camp with your sword.
Plus I said you used the boomerang well when you used it.
Plus I said you used the boomerang well when you used it.
demonictoonlink
Smash Master
Huh...This one's a little hard to critique...It would be so much easier if it was a match on a neutral...
Not that it's bad, but the spam was really heavy/repetitive. Eh, spamming that much isn't actually bad at all, but as Shadow Moth said with those annoying myus... Needs more mix-up. To be fair though, a lot of it wasn't your fault. You went for a lot of bomb pull-arrow cancels and those don't work consistently on Pirate Ship...My biggest problem is that I know your much better than this/ I've seen videos or you proving you are better than this. I feel this match does a poor job representing you.
Right, so...Basic Advice:
A lot more boomerang-Just mix it in with bombs
Mix up your entire game more; not just projectiles-I felt like I knew what you were about to do every step of the way...Instead of Zair>Nair, go for some Zair>Grab (especially if they hold shield), Zair>Grounded Up-B, or Zair>Dair (Hard to do, but works well. Just FF then SH Dair)
Don't take this as any form of insult. As always, you are an amazing player. I just feel this wasn't one of your better matches
edit: 2 posts occured while I was writing this...
Not that it's bad, but the spam was really heavy/repetitive. Eh, spamming that much isn't actually bad at all, but as Shadow Moth said with those annoying myus... Needs more mix-up. To be fair though, a lot of it wasn't your fault. You went for a lot of bomb pull-arrow cancels and those don't work consistently on Pirate Ship...My biggest problem is that I know your much better than this/ I've seen videos or you proving you are better than this. I feel this match does a poor job representing you.
Right, so...Basic Advice:
A lot more boomerang-Just mix it in with bombs
Mix up your entire game more; not just projectiles-I felt like I knew what you were about to do every step of the way...Instead of Zair>Nair, go for some Zair>Grab (especially if they hold shield), Zair>Grounded Up-B, or Zair>Dair (Hard to do, but works well. Just FF then SH Dair)
Don't take this as any form of insult. As always, you are an amazing player. I just feel this wasn't one of your better matches
edit: 2 posts occured while I was writing this...
As Sheikant's crewmate and casual opponent, i have to say... This will never work. I always punish his dairs because they are so predictable. It's much better to stick to something that's working for you instead of doing the chameleon and changing your strategy 10 times in just 1 match...
Once something doesn't work (or you feel like they're gonna find a way around it), it's time to start mixing up... not just replacing that 10-frame startup attack with 9 frames of jumping and 1-frame startup attack.
Other than that, no comment, since I don't play TL.
Shadow Moth
Up in the clouds
Well it's like I said, myu. I think against a better opponent this strategy wouldn't work at all. I'm not just saying that you need to arrow cancel more, myu, you need to actually take advantage of your close range attacks.
In my opinion, the reason you won was because that wolf was shy in the air. If your looking at his playstyle it feels to me like he was always trying to reach the ground.
In my opinion, the reason you won was because that wolf was shy in the air. If your looking at his playstyle it feels to me like he was always trying to reach the ground.
-Tempest-
Smash Ace
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlfhH95SAiU&feature=channel_page
Here's a team match. I'm not sure if it's possible to critique team games efficiently, but if you're willing, could you critique this?
Here's a team match. I'm not sure if it's possible to critique team games efficiently, but if you're willing, could you critique this?
Shadow Moth
Up in the clouds
Well we can critique your team and your part in the team, myu.
Myuru. First of all you team work seamed alright though you guys should've supported each other more if you're on a team. It's not just about taking on two guys at once it's about getting each others backs, myu.
Secondly, you sort of seemed tentative in the air. Myu, it almost felt like you were being shy once you left the ground.
Other than that, zair and bair more and f-tilt less.
Myuru. First of all you team work seamed alright though you guys should've supported each other more if you're on a team. It's not just about taking on two guys at once it's about getting each others backs, myu.
Secondly, you sort of seemed tentative in the air. Myu, it almost felt like you were being shy once you left the ground.
Other than that, zair and bair more and f-tilt less.
-Tempest-
Smash Ace
Wow, didn't expect a response so fast.
Yeah, Supergamer and I team a lot, but I'm not used to teaming with his Zelda (up til this point he had used Lucario), so I was unsure of how best to cover him. I know when I play Zelda, anyone near me in the air takes a Lightning Kick, so the reason I was tentative in the air was because I wanted to avoid meeting that fate.
And, Zair works well in teams too?
Yeah, Supergamer and I team a lot, but I'm not used to teaming with his Zelda (up til this point he had used Lucario), so I was unsure of how best to cover him. I know when I play Zelda, anyone near me in the air takes a Lightning Kick, so the reason I was tentative in the air was because I wanted to avoid meeting that fate.
And, Zair works well in teams too?
Shadow Moth
Up in the clouds
Zair works well anywhere, myu! ^_^
demonictoonlink
Smash Master
Oh my ****ing god stop it with the myus!
-Tempest-
Smash Ace
Whoa, DTL. It's not that big a deal. Lol.
Shadow Moth
Up in the clouds
No way, myu! ^_^
Edit, myu: What Temp said.
Edit, myu: What Temp said.
TLMSheikant
Smash Master
I agree completely with DTL for once. Stop the ****ing myus. Kthanx.
Shadow Moth
Up in the clouds
Myururu~... 
Why do you care so much?
Why do you care so much?
Shadow Moth
Up in the clouds
You guys are being so mean...
Fine I'll stop if you guys get off my back.
Myuru~.
Fine I'll stop if you guys get off my back.
Myuru~.
I'm not a TL user, and it doesn't bother me...You guys are being so mean...
Fine I'll stop if you guys get off my back.
Myuru~.
... Might it mean something important?
Just ignore the Myuru~'s and we'll all live happier. Not like it's making TL a worse character.
demonictoonlink
Smash Master
FOR ONCE?!
What does that mean?...You make it sound like we are always on opposite sides...We almost always agree...
Shadow Moth
Up in the clouds
Guys, STOP. Stop the unnecessary spam. The issue is already resolved.
Let's get back on track.
Let's get back on track.
demonictoonlink
Smash Master
must...kill...jerm....in....sleep....myu...
TLMSheikant
Smash Master
>_> jerm was my fav TL...WAS
Shadow Moth
Up in the clouds
@DTL: HEY!!
IF I CAN'T SAY MYU YOU DEFINITELY ARE BANNED FROM IT!!!
...
Myuru.
It's fun isn't it, myu?
Saying myu that is.
IF I CAN'T SAY MYU YOU DEFINITELY ARE BANNED FROM IT!!!
...
Myuru.
It's fun isn't it, myu?
Saying myu that is.
Shadow Moth
Up in the clouds
That's what I said. >_>
No one listens to me...
No one listens to me...
demonictoonlink
Smash Master
KK done spamming...I'll have some more vids up soon
TLMSheikant
Smash Master
^ This. Ill have more vids soon too.
We'll save replays in my Wii then upload them (somehow)... Unless you'd like to save your own replays?
I'll save and upload the matches you want me to save and upload.