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[LancerStaff]

I'd rewatch those, but seeing the guy lose twice times was too much the first time.

 

[SaucyDancer]

I'd rewatch those, but seeing the guy lose twice times was too much the first time.

Yeah I know exactly what you mean. It was quite painful to watch. I am grateful he did actually stream for us though. He also played Dark Pit a bit later on in Classic Mode so I hope someone uploads that footage somewhere.

 

[LancerStaff]

Yeah I know exactly what you mean. It was quite painful to watch. I am grateful he did actually stream for us though. He also played Dark Pit a bit later on in Classic Mode so I hope someone uploads that footage somewhere.

Hm, wish I would of stuck around. Then again, it probably would of been an infinite stream of Electroshock Arm spam...

 

[Ffamran]

Really? His staff is his Final Smash? I'm pretty sure you can get cannons in Uprising and there's those mechs you can pilot. Why not those?!

 

[relaxedexcorcist]

Really? His staff is his Final Smash? I'm pretty sure you can get cannons in Uprising and there's those mechs you can pilot. Why not those?!

My guess for the mechs probably be Dark Pit never actually makes use of them. As for why they picked the Dark Pit Staff over the EZ Cannon, probably because he's Dark Pit so he should probably use the weapon with his name on it.

 

[BaPr]

So Pit and Dark Pit have similar moves with different properties?

 

[Tsutori]

So Pit and Dark Pit have similar moves with different properties?

Pretty much.

As for the orbitars, Dark Pit has the same orbitars but I couldn't tell if they did anything differently.

 

[Ffamran]

My guess for the mechs probably be Dark Pit never actually makes use of them. As for why they picked the Dark Pit Staff over the EZ Cannon, probably because he's Dark Pit so he should probably use the weapon with his name on it.

I'm just disappointed and confused why his poster shows the staff, but he doesn't use it aside for his Final Smash. Dark Pit could have used the staff for smashes and normals, while his specials used the Silver Bow for Neutral Special and whatever else weapons Pit isn't using for Down, Side, and even Up Special. His Final Smash involving the staff wouldn't seem like a knock-off then.

 

[Maxilian]

It looks like Dark Pit can't jump and fly as high as Pit

 

[Ffamran]

It looks like Dark Pit can't jump and fly as high as Pit

Must be all that brooding and edgy burdens he's carrying.

 

[relaxedexcorcist]

I'm just disappointed and confused why his poster shows the staff, but he doesn't use it aside for his Final Smash. Dark Pit could have used the staff for smashes and normals, while his specials used the Silver Bow for Neutral Special and whatever else weapons Pit isn't using for Down, Side, and even Up Special. His Final Smash involving the staff wouldn't seem like a knock-off then.

I agree with that. Having the weapon in the render and then almost never using it is really weird. I'd even go so far as to say he doesn't even need the bow at all. Almost all of Pit's bow moves could have been recreated with the staff. They might have considered that too much work though.

 

[Ffamran]

I agree with that. Having the weapon in the render and then almost never using it is really weird. I'd even go so far as to say he doesn't even need the bow at all. Almost all of Pit's bow moves could have been recreated with the staff. They might have considered that too much work though.

Too much work, my mustache. Delay the game then! I'd rather wait and have something cool.

This can be argued with Lucina too who could at the very least had her battle stance from Awakening. I suggest that she keeps Marth's move set while Marth gains a new, fencing-orientated move set since his combat focuses on tippers and what's an easy way to do that? Oh, yeah, fight like a fencer.

 

[LancerStaff]

I'm not the only one who's noticed the DP Staff was redesigned, right? What's purple now was originally grey, and the sight is a jagged bit instead of this floating globe thing from before.

 

[Ffamran]

I'm not the only one who's noticed the DP Staff was redesigned, right? What's purple now was originally grey, and the sight is a jagged bit instead of this floating globe thing from before.

Like I said, Pittoo's tryin' ta' be all edgy and anti-like. Also, didn't you get the memo? Purple is the new black,

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

100% sure.

His Up-B is the same as pits visually.

His B is a Dark Arrow.

His Side-Special seems to be the same with a different dash arm.

Down-B he is using Orbitals.

His Final Smash uses his Sniper Skillz.

Ok wow snake fans are going to be double ticked off about dark pit then

Thatsounds a lot like snakes final smash

 

[Ffamran]

Ok wow snake fans are going to be double ticked off about dark pit then

Thatsounds a lot like snakes final smash

SSB4 Zero Suit Samus already has a Final Smash like Snake's and someone mentioned Mii Gunner having something similar to Snake. It's a stretch considering multiple characters share multiple moves like tons of characters have a flying sidekick.

 

[Tsutori]

This can be argued with Lucina too who could at the very least had her battle stance from Awakening. I suggest that she keeps Marth's move set while Marth gains a new, fencing-orientated move set since his combat focuses on tippers and what's an easy way to do that? Oh, yeah, fight like a fencer.

That would actually make a lot of sense for Marth considering that he's the only unit that can use Rapiers in Shadow Dragon.

Did not notice the staff redesign, I'll have to take a closer look at it : O

 

[Ffamran]

That would actually make a lot of sense for Marth considering that he's the only unit that can use Rapiers in Shadow Dragon.

Did not notice the staff redesign, I'll have to take a closer look at it : O

All Lords can use rapiers in Fire Emblem, I think, since there are exceptions like Hector being a Lord who uses axes and Ephraim who uses spears, and Ike's initial weapon in Path of Radiance functions like the rapier.

Considering Marth's style in SSB and the tipper mechanic it makes sense for him to be a fencer. If anything, Eirika should be Marth's clone since she's a fencer in her own game - Eirika's animations are based mostly on thrusts and stabs like a fencer would be doing.

Funny enough, Lucina (and Owain, but it's not seen due to game design) supposedly shares Chrom's fighting style since Chrom mentions the way Lucina fights and the way she holds her sword. Chrom in Awakening was more of a slasher than stabber. He was more like Ike than Marth. Same thing with Lucina, but she's a bit more graceful compared to her dad. Anyway, that's off topic since this is Pittoo's pad.

 

[relaxedexcorcist]

Yushako just went through Dark Pit's moves on stream.

One of his taunts has him spin the bow towards the camera and he say "Ikuzo"
Another taunt was he splits the bow, has one of the blades rest on his shoulder and points the other one away from him and says "Katekoi" Apologies if I spelled those wrong. I forgot what the third one was. Overall they were all pretty cool.

His Final Smash is just the Light Arrow but with a Dark Pit Staff instead. The camera zooms in on the person hit and everything.
Regular Arrow does seems faster to me but he didn't directly compare them to Pit's so can't be certain. He did not change there direction at all but I also don't know if he even tried too.

 

[Ryu Myuutsu]

What Orbitars does Dark Pit uses for his Down B? I saw Hama's stream when he was using him but the guy kept spamming Side and Up B '-_-

 

[relaxedexcorcist]

Guardian Orbitars.

 

[Ryu Myuutsu]

Only thing left to do now is play him enough so that we can notice his differences in comparison to Pit.

 

[FiXalaS]

I'm gonna main Dark Pit, but...

Yushako just went through Dark Pit's moves on stream.

One of his taunts has him spin the bow towards the camera and he say "Ikuzo"
Another taunt was he splits the bow, has one of the blades rest on his shoulder and points the other one away from him and says "Katekoi" Apologies if I spelled those wrong. I forgot what the third one was. Overall they were all pretty cool.

His Final Smash is just the Light Arrow but with a Dark Pit Staff instead. The camera zooms in on the person hit and everything.
Regular Arrow does seems faster to me but he didn't directly compare them to Pit's so can't be certain. He did not change there direction at all but I also don't know if he even tried too.

all three new clones are complete clones.

It's just, Lucina doesn't have to rely on tips, Dr.Mario has Tornado instead of FLUDD, Dark Pit's moves have different properties.

 

[LancerStaff]

Vanilla pit's - works similar to brawl, can curve almost at a 90 degree angle
Dark pit - barely curves at all, maybe 10~15 degrees??
Other than that for a casual gamer like me you can't really tell their differences. (again i could be wrong)

Yep, this settles it. DP's arrows are definitely harder to use. Thank's again for the info.

 

[Spazzy_D]

I want to see the difference between his custom moves and Pit's custom moves.

 

[_Darkpit_]

Darkpits finalsmash. 22 - 30 sec

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJGxwzH4O54

 

[grizby2]

I wonder if the clone character swill have radically different custom specials...

that's exactly what I want to know! this would justify him a bit more.

 

[FlareHabanero]

Is there a list of differences between Pit and Dark Pit available?

 

[SmasherP83]

I love that Dark Pit's in the game out of all characters would've never though of Dark Pit! Especially Dr.Mario returning.

 

[Hitzel]

Too much work, my mustache. Delay the game then! I'd rather wait and have something cool.

I don't think that would be wise.

Why can't people be grateful that a few extra characters were able to be squeezed in?

 

[Ffamran]

I don't think that would be wise.

Why can't people be grateful that a few extra characters were able to be squeezed in?

Because people are people and they like to complain.

 

[LancerStaff]

Is there a list of differences between Pit and Dark Pit available?

Working on it, but the Final Smash, arrows, and Sspecial are the most apparent, and DP is generally slower and more powerful then Pit from what I'm hearing.

 

[Ffamran]

Working on it, but the Final Smash, arrows, and Sspecial are the most apparent, and DP is generally slower and more powerful then Pit from what I'm hearing.

That makes sense. Everyone knows darkness is more powerful than light.

Join the Dark Side, we have bishonen er... I meant cookies. Yes, cookies. We have cookies.

 

[Spinosaurus]

It's just, Lucina doesn't have to rely on tips, Dr.Mario has Tornado instead of FLUDD, Dark Pit's moves have different properties.

Doc has different move properties too like Melee. (FAir doesn't meteor smash and instead launches forward, NAir is a reverse sex kick, etc)

Yeah need to know what exactly makes Dark Pit different from Pit playstyle-wise. Is his knockback better than Pit's at least?

 

[LancerStaff]

Doc has different move properties too like Melee. (FAir doesn't meteor smash and instead launches forward, NAir is a reverse sex kick, etc)

Yeah need to know what exactly makes Dark Pit different from Pit playstyle-wise. Is his knockback better than Pit's at least?

Stronger, but not necessarily better because of combos.

 

[Spinosaurus]

Stronger, but not necessarily better because of combos.

So basically like Doc? That's perfect for me.

 

[Vinje]

Do we know any of Dark pit's custom moves?

 

[LancerStaff]

Do we know any of Dark pit's custom moves?

No, but Ganondorf gets his sword in a custom, so there's hope for the staff.

Oh, and there's a guy with the game around here and he's a fan of DP, and I told him to share info with us when he comes across it, so it's only a matter of time.

 

[Vinje]

No, but Ganondorf gets his sword in a custom, so there's hope for the staff.

Oh, and there's a guy with the game around here and he's a fan of DP, and I told him to share info with us when he comes across it, so it's only a matter of time.

Cool, I also think I remember hearing in the last nintendo direct that the fastest way to unlock was through smash run, though I may of heard wrong so don't quote me on that.

 

[LancerStaff]

Cool, I also think I remember hearing in the last nintendo direct that the fastest way to unlock was through smash run, though I may of heard wrong so don't quote me on that.

Yeah, I remember something like that.