BUT WHAT IF SHE DOESN'T UP B AND DIES OFF THE BOTTOM! omg, then you're DQed, I totally figured out the broken strat in this game type... you just don't recover and then they lose. better yet, SD every stock!
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Volleying: A New Type of Game (Updated with Video Examples: Special Guest Darrell)
- Thread starter Ballistics
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Ballistics
Smash Champion
its not your fault if they don't try to save themselves, the event of someone dying down isn't a gamebreaker its just frowned upon, you should do everything in your power to kill them to the side that doesn't kill you in the process, but if it turns out you can't its not a big deal.
The point is still to win, just like in a real game you would not sd every stock.
The point is still to win, just like in a real game you would not sd every stock.
Brick_Top
Smash Apprentice
a lot of people play friendlies at tourney's to practice/get better/warm up, and taking away spikes and gimps will develop bad habits with recovering. If you know you aren't going to get spiked, then you are going to recover low every time right? Idk, I just think it'll throw off your game more than it will help it
Ballistics
Smash Champion
LoL every single person thinks that practicing gimps is very important to being a really good player
you have lost your souls
you have lost your souls
TresChikon
Smash Lord
Gimps are just a product of you being lucky and them being stupid.
Ballistics
Smash Champion
Its really hard to gimp people sometimes and in tournaments gimps are beautiful game winners, but in friendlies? Really? Practice some other time
sonofashrub
Smash Apprentice
this also gives certain characters huge advantages during a "volleying match." It would effectively remove shine spiking from the game, yet things like captain falcon's crazy combos would all still work.
Ballistics
Smash Champion
I don't really care what you think about it CJ,
I do care if you try it and you still don't like it, get back to me
I do care if you try it and you still don't like it, get back to me
I don't think you read the whole thing, the only rule is that you can't die down, knees are fine.
Fox can combo captain falcon just as well as falcon combo's fox (more or less), but the point is a good fox doesn't need shine spikes to win (think about fox vs jiggz)
null55
Smash Master
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i was exaggerating.
and i'm afraid i'll never try this cause i love friendlies. especially when i get ****ed up. cause then i'm even more motivated to **** them up.
cause it's smash, play the game. basically you're inventing a new game for sensitive people. seriously, try B:DP and tell me what you think.
and i'm afraid i'll never try this cause i love friendlies. especially when i get ****ed up. cause then i'm even more motivated to **** them up.
cause it's smash, play the game. basically you're inventing a new game for sensitive people. seriously, try B:DP and tell me what you think.
Archangel
Smash Hero
Funny thing is I do this already sometimes. or I'll fake a gimp and random Bair or something.
th0rn
Smash Lord
Ballistics is the best troll evar... you see those anti-trolls of answering obv jokes!?!?! genius!!!
good work man!
good work man!
Ballistics
Smash Champion
cmon man dont be a doosh just try the game or unsubscribe =)
TresChikon
Smash Lord
Yeah Ballistics, they're right.
Winning and dominating in friendlies is the most important thing.
How other people feel is honestly not an issue because looking good in front of your friends during Smash definitely holds priority over everything. You certainly have a reputation as the master of friendlies to maintain and calming down to actually have... *gasp!* fun, is simply absurd.
Winning and dominating in friendlies is the most important thing.
How other people feel is honestly not an issue because looking good in front of your friends during Smash definitely holds priority over everything. You certainly have a reputation as the master of friendlies to maintain and calming down to actually have... *gasp!* fun, is simply absurd.
Ballistics
Smash Champion
im not trying to replace friendlies obviously this is not appropriate all the time, but its fun and I hope you try it at least once
Banks
Smash Hero
I find playing the game in the fashion it is played in tournaments to be the most fun, gimps included.
i have no trouble trying hard enough to beat people i can beat, if i am not winning it is probably because the person i'm playing possesses a similar level of skill. You don't have to be balls to the wall hand-sweat'n-trying to win at friendlies to have fun AND win, you just have to play well.
unless you are getting three/four stocked every game, no one will auto-think they are better than you after friendlies, and that seems to be the reason you created this game.
If you actually have fun doing it and ppl want to play it with you, then the sarcasm shouldn't faze you. I think it is less ppl being douches and more expressing majority opinion in a highly sarcastic way.
i have no trouble trying hard enough to beat people i can beat, if i am not winning it is probably because the person i'm playing possesses a similar level of skill. You don't have to be balls to the wall hand-sweat'n-trying to win at friendlies to have fun AND win, you just have to play well.
unless you are getting three/four stocked every game, no one will auto-think they are better than you after friendlies, and that seems to be the reason you created this game.
If you actually have fun doing it and ppl want to play it with you, then the sarcasm shouldn't faze you. I think it is less ppl being douches and more expressing majority opinion in a highly sarcastic way.
Ballistics
Smash Champion
lol i don't why i am coming off as a noob getting 3 and 4 stocked by people but I'm actually pretty good and usually beat most of the people I play in friendlies, its just that after you play someone for so long your desire to play efficiently and wait them out dies down. Thats the standpoint I hope people are looking at this from.
I don't how you guys can keep up playing 100% capacity ALL THE TIME. After I play someone for 3 hours I get demotivated and just want to play for fun, this game allows you to do that in the rules so thats why the game is important to me.
Lol banks thanks man you are really polite, I am under the opinion if you don't have anything nice to say don't say anything at all. I am open to criticism of the game but just saying its stupid and you'll never try it is just mean. =(
I don't how you guys can keep up playing 100% capacity ALL THE TIME. After I play someone for 3 hours I get demotivated and just want to play for fun, this game allows you to do that in the rules so thats why the game is important to me.
Lol banks thanks man you are really polite, I am under the opinion if you don't have anything nice to say don't say anything at all. I am open to criticism of the game but just saying its stupid and you'll never try it is just mean. =(
TresChikon
Smash Lord
Oh btw i was sarcastic and i do support you ballistics, in case it didn't get through
Ballistics
Smash Champion
Thanks Chikon, glad theres another dreamer in here lol
null55
Smash Master
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i play convincingly worse in friendlies... just cause i'm not nearly as patient as i would be if **** is on the line...
it's natural, i indulge and all that American whoo-plah.
but just cause i get gimped a little more or potentially lose more games due to ******** greediness doesn't mean i want to "ban gimping" to make the other guy more even with my hilarious endeavors.
chillll bro. *passes dutch*
*shoots himself*
it's natural, i indulge and all that American whoo-plah.
but just cause i get gimped a little more or potentially lose more games due to ******** greediness doesn't mean i want to "ban gimping" to make the other guy more even with my hilarious endeavors.
chillll bro. *passes dutch*
*shoots himself*
kupo15
Smash Hero
I'm sorry but its fun to try to kill people down and have them practice their meteor canceling or teching by just doing meteors over and over again when you could be doing a more potent form of edge guarding.
Its also fun to have crazy off stage battles that involve the downward killzone and such. I see where your problem is but you are approaching it the wrong. I approve of AXEs posts. I can identify with what he has to say about being ultra serious in friendlies such as CGing to death. Not cool for friendlies and when you want to have a good time.
Its also fun to have crazy off stage battles that involve the downward killzone and such. I see where your problem is but you are approaching it the wrong. I approve of AXEs posts. I can identify with what he has to say about being ultra serious in friendlies such as CGing to death. Not cool for friendlies and when you want to have a good time.
Ballistics
Smash Champion
Ballistics
Smash Champion
Vids
So I finally recorded some example videos with my amigo toobz
Part 1: Falco vs Falco
Part 3: Fox vs Falco
Part 4: Falcon vs Falcon, Marth vs Peach
Part 5: Marth vs Ganon, Ganon vs Ganon
Part 6: Fox vs Pikachu, DK vs Falcon, Sheik vs Falcon
Part 7: Sheik vs Falco, Falco vs Falco
Part 8: Fox vs Fox, Link vs Fox, Ice climbers vs Fox
So I finally recorded some example videos with my amigo toobz
Part 1: Falco vs Falco
Part 3: Fox vs Falco
Part 4: Falcon vs Falcon, Marth vs Peach
Part 5: Marth vs Ganon, Ganon vs Ganon
Part 6: Fox vs Pikachu, DK vs Falcon, Sheik vs Falcon
Part 7: Sheik vs Falco, Falco vs Falco
Part 8: Fox vs Fox, Link vs Fox, Ice climbers vs Fox
TresChikon
Smash Lord
Dang, Peach has a rough time with KOs.
Ballistics
Smash Champion
Haha well at least mike's noob peach does
SlitThroat1010
Smash Journeyman
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This looks like it could be fun, but I know I'll have a lot of trouble reprogramming myself at the ledge as I might accidentally gimp or something out of habit. This might not be for me.
Sion
Island of Horizon
but i love edgeguarding =(
Ballistics
Smash Champion
You still edgeguard you just don't ledgehog, its good that you love edgeguarding because you have to do alot more of it when you have to kill them to the side
Sion
Island of Horizon
well, i meant that i like to ledgehog and dair spike (basically gimp).
the game mechanics aren't bad, they just don't replace normal friendlies to me. most of my kills and gameplay rely heavily on these things.
not a bad idea by any means though.
the game mechanics aren't bad, they just don't replace normal friendlies to me. most of my kills and gameplay rely heavily on these things.
not a bad idea by any means though.
Kanelol
Smash Lord
What exactly happens if you accidentally gimp someone and they die from falling, not the sides or top?
TresChikon
Smash Lord
^ You act like you did it on purpose and act all boss about it ^-^
Anyways, I tried tweaking it a bit and it works out pretty cool.
When I played my friend, he could gimp, edgehog, etc. me, but the catch was that I had to play according to volley rules.
This let him play on a handicap and forced me to try extra extra hard to keep up. Which is good I think.
Anyways, I tried tweaking it a bit and it works out pretty cool.
When I played my friend, he could gimp, edgehog, etc. me, but the catch was that I had to play according to volley rules.
This let him play on a handicap and forced me to try extra extra hard to keep up. Which is good I think.
Toobz
Smash Journeyman
Those matches were really fun. I liked playing as Falco, Fox and Ganondorf the best. Peach was really tough, wasn't sure how to save effectively. Falco is top tier for his saving abilities. Ganon is good though because he kills so easily. Falcon of course is fun, but not as much as the others imo. Playing as Fox basically means you wait until 150% + and land a bair, or kill with usmash. Otherwise its really tough to KO with him. He also has really poor saving abilities. The firefox is too tough to use due to its start up time.
Ballistics
Smash Champion
You lose my respect as a good volley player, but if you watch our matches it happens often, so we have a way to go.
instead of ledgehog dair, do ledgehog bair or nair a couple times till they die to the side
TresChikon, I want some vids of you playing this get on that
Yo mike no johns the matches i posted you won most of them, next time im gonna destroy you and stop sding lol.
tubes
Smash Ace
Fixed for practicality.
Ballistics
Smash Champion
lol true but not everyone has money all the time
joeplicate
Smash Master
or you could just do a "serious" set with your friend
idk i still think this is a silly idea
you gotta learn how to accept losing/playing gay/getting serious eventually
idk i still think this is a silly idea
you gotta learn how to accept losing/playing gay/getting serious eventually
Ballistics
Smash Champion
Have you tried it yet joe??
bladeofapollo
Smash Ace
Dair
If you ever watch a team's match where Peach is playing, her ally never dies off the bottom.
EDIT: Props to Derek for this hilarious idea; it's pretty fun
Toobz
Smash Journeyman
Ahhh thats right. I forgot about that.
Derek, put up our new videos! Falco all day, son!
Derek, put up our new videos! Falco all day, son!