Claire Diviner
President
With all due respect, it is in the "Melee Discussion" section.please don't talk about melee it's not related at all here
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With all due respect, it is in the "Melee Discussion" section.please don't talk about melee it's not related at all here
This is true as a general rule. However, the point I'm making is that the timer is what determines how quickly you must try and bring the lead back. If you consider the scenario with infinite time, then you clearly see that the opponent has no more reason to approach when he's losing than when he's winning. Although a bit extreme, the fact still holds: the longer the timer, the more time the opponent has available to camp while he's not in the lead. Thus, when choosing a time, you want to pick a balance such that players have enough time to play, but not so much time that losing players can simply sit back and force a stand-off.dude that's not true at all. If you're winning, you should be camping if you want to win. If you're losing, you need to bring the lead back. That will always apply regardless if you really want to win. The only difference that this makes is that winning via a time out (or as the smash community likes to say "gaying" people out) becomes much more difficult, it's discouraged, and also less likely to occur.
There's no reason not to do it except for the fact that people are used to 8 minutes and are afraid of change. 8 is too small for this game. It's 8 minutes in Melee, and those matches go by twice as fast.
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Seeing as I have powers here, sounds about right.With all due respect, it is in the "Melee Discussion" section.
Because, theory craft aside, Foxs don't win tournaments.For me, the thing that should warrant a ban on any character, is if said character is broken by design, like Guilty Gear's Justice, or Mortal Kombat 3's Shao Khan/Motaro. Meta Knight isn't really broken, as people have found ways to beat him. It's that players, like Mew2King, have found ways to use him that happens to be really effective. At that point, it's up to their opponents to study ways to combat their strategies. It's not like it's impossible either.
Also, what about Fox in Melee? I hear when mastered, he's nigh untouchable. No one complains about Fox users. Is it because he's hard to master? I see that as a double standard, since I'm sure if all Fox mains decide to take the time to master him completely and dedicate the dexterity and reflexes needed into muscle memory, people will start to cry foul then too.
Rambling ends here...
I'm surprised you haven't closed this already, actually.Seeing as I have powers here, sounds about right.
Also, as a warning.
This is NOT to become a thread about the MK ban. If the original purpose of the thread gets derailed I have no problems closing this.
Such is the problem when you don't pay your mods to do remedial work. Regardless, I think Teczero is a fair enough moderator and he just means this topic shouldn't change to a discussion about whether MK should be banned.Man, I hate it when threads get closed just because its "off topic"
There is GREAT discussion going on in here, but to close the thread just because we may be dabbling in brawl discussion seems kinda fascist to me.
no, it's not technically possible.Impractical perhaps, but still technically possible, which is the point. A moot point? Maybe. But a point nonetheless.
Its ok, it wasn't my intentions to directly attack you either. I meant moderation in general suffers from these problems. "Fascist" might have been too strong of a word to use. My apologies.Jpobs I'm fine if your discussion uses examples or something from the brawl community as well. I'm not saying there can be no mentioning of brawl. That's fine as long as your goal is talking about the op of this thread.
Didn't mean to make it sound like that if did I apologize.
LOOOOOOOOOOL OooPSWith all due respect, it is in the "Melee Discussion" section.
"Oh, look at all of these posts and walls of texts! I bet no one cares about them." *goes to post in thread*TL;DR version of this thread:
Brawl sucks. Our community is old and the decisions we make about our ruleset are done to appease the remaining players left. Too many walls of text that no one is going to read because no one gives a **** what you think.
I support this immensely. Pichu is a godawful character that breaks the game with his cuteness and ability to draw women over to your TV. Ban him immediately.Banning Pichu would be the ultimate troll the Melee Community could make to Brawl's.
Highlighted the important part here.Wow that's entirely not true, in fact, I've been helping people since years before I started tournaments. Have you heard about the SSBM Statistics list I made? I spent like 1000-2000 hours making that
I honestly don't see why he should.He doesn't care about the the health of the metagame's for either smash.
Yeah. Why would a top player care about the game of which he gets money from?I honestly don't see why he should.
People do play brawl.In fact, I don't see why the "health of the metagame" matters at all. If its a good game worth playing, people wil play it.
One character's overcentralization doesn't automatically equate to it being a terrible game.If its a terrible game which is overcentralized by one dominant character, I don't see why him (or anyone) would care about it.
Yeah, maybe we should all unban items and select stages and play it like it was meant to be. Right?If the game you play doesn't have a healthy and sustainable enough metagame as it is, maybe you should consider playing other games.
Ironic."Health of the metagame" argument is a load of horse ****
lol this is a huge exaggeration.M2k IS the brawl metagame.
I think you're missing the point I'm making.Why should i have to put in more effort because you can't keep your thoughts straight?