Seagull Joe
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There is a lot of truth in this statement in the sense that there are match-ups that Omniswell does better than me (such as pikachu). We both agree that if we combined our match-up knowledge, our Wolfs would both improve. But hey, why stop there? Why don't we all combine our match-up knowledge to make Wolf as a character a better character. I hate match-up threads because it really doesn't really tell me exactly what to do against certain characters. This thread aims to fill the gaps that match-up threads fail to cover.ahhhh so much hate on me goin on.
No matter where you go someone is gonna disagree with you. I beat alot of good players. so does JJ anyone who dosent think were good is stupid. JJ's videos are flashier than mine and that's what defines good now a days. I camp and i win. JJ is more aggressive and flashy I excel in matches he fails in and vice versa. What you people say Is a good match i call a normal wolf match and what you say is trash i say is an achievement.
If you don't like the video just say i dont like it. don't insult people
so im gonna leave it on this can any of you guys beat anther?
P.S. Thank you daKid for nominating me
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This is a serious thread. Please don't write things like that in here. I believe one day, fighting a good DDD won't be as lopsided as it is now. Saying things like what you said is exactly what's keeping Wolf down.for king dedede turn around sd 3 times.give them victory.
on a serious note i got some advice for mario.use lots of bairs.space them.and make sure to reflect fire balls cause most marios spam the hell out of it.also two shines over edge is enough to shine spike cause mario recovery sucksThis is a serious thread. Please don't write things like that in here. I believe one day, fighting a good DDD won't be as lopsided as it is now. Saying things like what you said is exactly what's keeping Wolf down.
Thanks haha, yeah I forgot to put that. Shining mario off the stage and buffering a jumpshine i think guarantees death for the marioon a serious note i got some advice for mario.use lots of bairs.space them.and make sure to reflect fire balls cause most marios spam the hell out of it.also two shines over edge is enough to shine spike cause mario recovery sucks
I fight bowser a bunch, he's not a pro but there aren't really many pro bowsers I know of.
-Get him in the air, bowser gets owned in the air
-Try to force him to approach
-A properly spaced B-air can just barely outrange his side-B
Dunno if thats any useful tho.
Thanks dood. I heard good things about your wolf. Hope to see you more active on these boards =Pshine is good for lucario as it nullifies most of their aerial approaches
Thanks man i'll try to be more active here n help outThanks dood. I heard good things about your wolf. Hope to see you more active on these boards =P
thats not true.im also a bowser main.nothing beats side b.bowser will get hit but wolf will just get flying slammed.plus most bowsers use it with jumps and infinite jumps.pretty much fsmash and lasers piss bowser off more then anything else.bairs also when not getting flying slammedI fight bowser a bunch, he's not a pro but there aren't really many pro bowsers I know of.
-Get him in the air, bowser gets owned in the air
-Try to force him to approach
-A properly spaced B-air can just barely outrange his side-B
Dunno if thats any useful tho.
How should I edit the current tips on Bowser so that you both can agree?thats not true.im also a bowser main.nothing beats side b.bowser will get hit but wolf will just get flying slammed.plus most bowsers use it with jumps and infinite jumps.pretty much fsmash and lasers piss bowser off more then anything else.bairs also when not getting flying slammed
his fsmash is also punishableKirby's dsmash is very punishable because it only hits close up and hitting a shield means tons of cooldown (and it doesn't really push you far away).
He speaks the truth lolGood Kirbys don't use Dsmash very often.
You are correct when you say a good falco can space the chaingrab at the edge so that it doesn't matter if I smash DI or not. However, if you get grabbed around the middle of final D, the wolf has to be near 0% to actually reach that distance where he cannot DI back onto the stage/tech.I'm sorry JJ but I've been through Falco vs Wolf many many times. It's not possible to tech the spike every time, and good falco's can SPACE the chain grab to get you at the edge, where it won't matter if you smash DI or not. I would rather take 40% than take a risk and get KO'd if I make a slight mistake, which is easy to do when trying to tech a spike. Besides, Wolf can KO falco faster than Falco KO's Wolf sooo its not like 40% makes it a BIG disadvantage.
basically what u just said means if u do an attack first u win.that goes for everything.i can bair a ddd first but he can shield into grab after i hit.this logic is just terrible here solid.if i do bair first before side b then yea ill hit.if they r done at the same time side b wins.if side b is done first it wins.No, I just tested it, perfectly spaced Bair beats out Side-B, only if you initiate it first though.
Pika has LOTS of CG options its best to jus try ur best at spacing and avoiding the grab the whole fight rather than play campy at the beginning percentsPikachu- Play a small camp fight against the Pika until he thunder jolts you over chain grab percent. Pika's aerial range is so ****ty but it can fool you to shine countering because of it's speed. Do NOT use shine unless the Pika is going for the thunder finish in the air. NEVER DI DOWN TO SURVIVE EVER EVER EVER. Dair's lag is sooo bad that you're asking to get thundered by a good pika. Just try to Smash DI out their dsmashes and if they get you into the air and they're still on the ground, ONLY THEN SHINE until you fall a little closer and then air dodge back to the stage and into the fight. Wolf can gain the upper hand in the match up because if played right, Pika won't be able to KO him for a loooooong time.
Falco- ALWAYS go for a stage with platforms. Camp on a platform and keep your shield up. The Falco will not chain grab you and will keep hitting with his airs thus bringing you over chain grab percent. NEVER LEAVE THE PLATFORM UNTIL YOU'RE OVER 30-40. If you're on Final Destination, take at least 10-20% then stay in the middle camping lasers. I doubt the Falco will bring you to the edge for the dair if you're in 10-20.
Marth- Fair OOS his Short hopped Fairs at all times. Your Bair outranges his Fair so use it aloooooooooooooooot more than you normally do. Oh, and watch your DI or everytime you fall on the stage he'll hit with another dancing blade or grab.
Diddy- Reflect his nanners? IDOFJSDIOFIdsFID****DIDDYKONGUGHHIUSFNDSIOFNDSOI
His cg only goes past 30% if his dthrow is stalePika has LOTS of CG options its best to jus try ur best at spacing and avoiding the grab the whole fight rather than play campy at the beginning percents
I also have a fair bit of experience against ness if you're interested.
I'll test this out but I doubt it will work. iirc, wolf is still in his blaster retracting animation by the time falco already touches the ledge. Im thinking of maybe using nair or shining him out of the side b as a possible solution. And you don't play brawl. That's why people don't take u seriously.On Falco, you should be able to Laser > Dsmash if they try to sweetspot with a buffered Side B
I'll help with this when I have some time. Why doesn't Vista get any recognition though LOL