GodAtHand
Smash Lord
I'm with MrEh on this one, I know it does not matter I just thought I show my opinion/support.
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In a sense, all three matchups suck, you're right. But MK and Snake suck ever so slightly less than Mr. Game and Watch (it's like he was programmed solely to beat Zelda. Even if you switch to Sheik it's still like 35:65 or something).MK is worse the Gdub. But the matchup is still so outrageously bad that arguing which is worse doesn't make much of a difference.
I second this. Not the discussing the MU because it's dumb, but the hating Olimar.Zelda vs Olimar.
I hate him.
MK and Gdub really aren't worth arguing about. Like SniperWorm said, MK is the harder matchup. (but not by much)So... any requests on matchups? There's a lot of discrepancies on MK and GW so I'll move them both down if multiple people feel differently about them.
Well, it's wifi. Most of the time, matchups are hard to gauge on wifi due to the lag. Any character with a fast high priority move usually wrecks on wifi. Example, Snake or Ike.Can we do Lucas/Ness, I keep facing a very good Lucas on Wifi and dont know the matchup too well
Well, it's wifi. Most of the time, matchups are hard to gauge on wifi due to the lag. Any character with a fast high priority move usually wrecks on wifi. Example, Snake or Ike.
Lucas and Ness are probably evenish though.
Out of interest, what do you think the ratio should be?Pikachu.
For obvious reasons, lol. I also think the current ratio (or whatever one was in the old thread) is balls and completely wrong.
Not in Zelda's favor, that's for sure.Out of interest, what do you think the ratio should be?
Um, if you really feel that strongly about it, you could use ratios between 40:60 and 45:55.Not in Zelda's favor, that's for sure.
Probably 45:55 in Pikachu's favor.... or slightly above that. 40:60 strikes me as too much, but 45:55 seems too even (hence why the ratio system fails, but that's a story for another day).... a slighty bigger than slight advantage for Pika.
Make sense? =X
I dunno, Olimar and Lucas are relatively easy to discuss (and therefore should finish very quickly). Olimar destroys Zelda and Lucas doesn't really matter (no offense intended Lucas players) because we can see that it's relatively even (so neither side counters the other, making it an unlikely CP) and both characters are uncommon enough where our time is better spent discussing more likely matchups.Kaylo you must contain your excitement for the time being until we get olimar and lucas done!... hopefully this is in time for you to have a few zelda MMs in hawaii... and if Ninjalink goes then MM him too, for the epic factor!
I'm very excited!
All right, then. 43:57 Pikachu's favor. I hate the whole ratio system in general, to be honest.... I just accept that it's necessary and the standard we have to work with. Unfortunately. -_-Um, if you really feel that strongly about it, you could use ratios between 40:60 and 45:55.
Meh.I still say whilst we're in the lucas mindset, do Ness.
might not be the most fun, but it'll be the easiest. We could always do two more at once...Meh.
When I grow up . . .Also, I have boobies.
Special testing you say? LOL! I guess being a mod does have its benefits after all hahaaaa!I'll do special testing for you, Kata, if we do Pikachu next.
Also, I have boobies.
can't see why. He is much like lucas, but easier.Okay we shall do Pika and Ness next... for some reason I'm expecting the Ness one to be quite heated. ZSS can wait because that was requested after...!
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.can't see why. He is much like lucas, but easier.
you're being silly. they are "much like" each other. They are hardly identical, but they share many qualities.Oh wait, were you being serious? Seriously, Ness and Lucas are NOT alike.
Let's see. Their PK Fires are fairly similar, though they have different fucntions. Down B and Up B are similar for both. Neutral B functions in the same way, but have totally different effects. So that's three moves so far that can be considered 'shared'. Their FSmashes are kinda similar I guess, though Lucas' is faster and Ness' has more knockback, so they're also different. As stated, they both have 10 frames extra on their grab release, and they're both lower-mid weights.you're being silly. they are "much like" each other. They are hardly identical, but they share many qualities.
don't forget about Dtilt and uair!words
not that peach doesn't hav an advantaged matchup, but I'd take Zelda against a bracket full of peaches before I took her into one with one good olimar, who you didn't list.Just avoid MK, Snake, GnW and Peach. I've been reading GnW haven't been doing too well. Except Hylian
Zelda vs Peach isn't that bad at all. It's 45:55, 40:60 at worst. And you forgot to mention Olimar.Just avoid MK, Snake, GnW and Peach. I've been reading GnW haven't been doing too well. Except Hylian