As far as I know, Fox cannot escape Meta Knight's Neutral B if it is mashed properly.
Also, Florida has Virg, who is pretty good (he's arguably better than Trump, but he's not very active).
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Also, Florida has Virg, who is pretty good (he's arguably better than Trump, but he's not very active).
Rizk18
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Sorry about that, but the only way to punish nado is to dair or nair the center of it where MK's head is. If you're talking about punishing it where it hits you and Fox gets out right away and you start shining, im pretty sure MK will come back after you, or they will just retreat back.
Rizk18
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You could've added me in the Midwest section
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your avatar scares me.You could've added me in the Midwest section
all light characters can escape the first hit by simple holding up on the control stick.
after that escaping is purely luck.
Rizk18
Smash Lord
It's a girl named Adriana Lima, a Victoria Secret supermodel. Just looks wierd because it's squished.
Fox can jump and indefinitely escape a single 'nado. Fox can shield>punish it with grab/dash/attack/Usmash. Fox' smashes out-prioritize 'nado. Fox can also Uair/Bair/shine/Side-B/etc. through the top since it's exposed. Depending on the spacing/staleness of 'nado, Fox can pop out of it, air dodge into the ground, and shield before he's hit again. If it's near the end of its duration, Fox can simply air dodge through the end and then do pretty much anything he wants to punish 'nado (punishing it with Up-B has a tight timing/won't happen, but that's rather inconsequential).
This is in addition to what you already said.
It's less likely that a Meta Knight is going to start 'nado on top of you so that the first hit lands than not doing so.
NAKAT
Smash Champion
Nair, Dair, and shine will work. As for adding for Midwest......Pierce was right when he quoted you. You haven't done anything to be worth mentioning anywhere, this is the truth i'm not even trying to get at you.
Conviction
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And with that post NAKAT made ladies and gentlemen, we need to get the flame proof vest.
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Yeah ... it makes it look like she has a lazy eye or something.
not 100% sure but i think it also works if you get hit from the side.
Maharba the Mystic
Smash Master
it does work from the side. just got to smash di and normal di up instead of just di up.
(this is wat noobs and fools will say)
OH NOEZ YOU GOT TO USE BOTH STICKS?! **** it metaknight wins this then automatically. no1 can use AVERAGE di skills to escape nado. it is just flat out not possible for fox to punish anything metaknight does let alone counter any his other moves. trust me i claim to have done research now that ive seen a couple posts.....
(lmao as i read all the posts that say mk beats fox. it's at 0 because of statistics, not viewpoints. anyways here is wat those who matter have said and will continue to say)
fox not only can punish the move arsenal that only a few other characters can, he can do it better than the rest of them. he not only can approach metaknight whereas only a few other characters can, he can do it better than them. and while fox does have his disadvanteges in other match ups, the fact is these are not those match ups. just because fox can get owned by characters like sheik and pikachu, does not change his match up against metaknight.
and ladies and gentlemen i shall now continue to watch this arguement go on for like 3 more pages and still laugh my *** off
(this is wat noobs and fools will say)
OH NOEZ YOU GOT TO USE BOTH STICKS?! **** it metaknight wins this then automatically. no1 can use AVERAGE di skills to escape nado. it is just flat out not possible for fox to punish anything metaknight does let alone counter any his other moves. trust me i claim to have done research now that ive seen a couple posts.....
(lmao as i read all the posts that say mk beats fox. it's at 0 because of statistics, not viewpoints. anyways here is wat those who matter have said and will continue to say)
fox not only can punish the move arsenal that only a few other characters can, he can do it better than the rest of them. he not only can approach metaknight whereas only a few other characters can, he can do it better than them. and while fox does have his disadvanteges in other match ups, the fact is these are not those match ups. just because fox can get owned by characters like sheik and pikachu, does not change his match up against metaknight.
and ladies and gentlemen i shall now continue to watch this arguement go on for like 3 more pages and still laugh my *** off
NAKAT
Smash Champion
I don't believe Fox beats MK. I just feel as if the MU is even.
Rizk18
Smash Lord
I respect you for that. It's true, hopefully I can start tournies again asap.
Same here. People keep saying TKD this TKD that, but I seriously believe it's because TKD is just a overall better player than the people think. They think just because he uses Fox to beat them it automatically means Fox wins in the MU. It's just skill level and experience. Shout out to TKD
vato_break
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we should get TEEKAYDEE in here or TKD or teskado or which ever name he namesearches.
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It would be nice to hear from the man himself, rather than all these people meat riding him.
Conviction
Human Nature
@Mystic- You didn't make any sense to me >.>
@Vato - I can just AIM him but he isn't that fond of SWF.
EDIT: Or others that have actually played MKs...now you act like TKD is the only Fox to ever play a good MK >.<
@Vato - I can just AIM him but he isn't that fond of SWF.
EDIT: Or others that have actually played MKs...now you act like TKD is the only Fox to ever play a good MK >.<
NAKAT
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This. Stop assuming and maybe actually read. It seems you only look for TKD in a post so you can write it off as meatriding.
Rizk18
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Play nice guys.
Conviction
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Yea I brought my next-to-kin here because he was requested lol
Sorry, responded the way he came at me.
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LOL, well he quoted post which was referencing D1aos, not himself. Just because I see potential on one up and coming player means I'm sleeping on everyone else? The kid KID was not even in the conversation at hand!
Still not feeling the logic. -_-
Also, while I am in fact an enormus TKD fan, I did not use him once in my argument on why Fox does well against MK, AND HAVE HELD THE OPINION SINCE BEFORE ANYONE EVEN HEARD OF HIM.
Also, EVERYONE is entitled to their opinion, and I welcome all opinions, known player or not. I just don't wanna see any flaming, and it especially bothers me when the person flaming has no credentials, and ESPECIALLY when the content of their post isn't even that amazing.
Still not feeling the logic. -_-
Also, while I am in fact an enormus TKD fan, I did not use him once in my argument on why Fox does well against MK, AND HAVE HELD THE OPINION SINCE BEFORE ANYONE EVEN HEARD OF HIM.
Also, EVERYONE is entitled to their opinion, and I welcome all opinions, known player or not. I just don't wanna see any flaming, and it especially bothers me when the person flaming has no credentials, and ESPECIALLY when the content of their post isn't even that amazing.
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Thats neato but just because he thinks about the MU alot doesn't mean he knows it and can execute it. If you spend time thinking about how to shoot a basketball it DOES actually help your shot (at least thats what i have been told studies show) but top level basketball players can't get away with just thinking about basketball for practice. If he hasn't played the MU from the other side, you can't guarantee me he knows it.
lol I don't think you get just how much TKD thinks about this stuff. Go read one of his AiB blogs or his thread on the fox boards and you'll see.
Conviction
Human Nature
As a trolling rebuttal to you Judo,(I play soccer) I've been thinking about how to curve the ball to the right with my right foot, and then this Saturday I applied my theory and I got an amazing curve and hit the upper right 90! :D
TKD
Smash Lord
I come up with something, then test it in practice. Thousands of times. It's trial and error, you genius.
I don't name search for myself, but Iblis summoned me lolwe should get TEEKAYDEE in here or TKD or teskado or which ever name he namesearches.
On the current topic, I think Fox and MK are even if the MK is very sharp with untraditional and mindful baits and mix-ups. As MK, camping is ineffective and juggling doesn't work as well on Fox as it does on the rest of the cast, but you have enough options to work with the opponent's plans and habits. If the Fox player plays well, it's more about taking advantage of the opponent's mind than his character.
So I do think that at top level it evens up vs a good Fox, but as a Fox player, I feel that other close match-ups take more work.
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I was coming at you? Also, I said all these people, not EVERYONE.
Who is the one assuming, now?
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Dude I honestly don't care of he thinks about it 12 hours a day. I think a ton about theory smash and MU's everyday. That doesn't change the fact that I can't be sure if any of it is right until i play the MU and see how it works.
Conviction
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IMO Falco is harder than MK e
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Conviction
Human Nature
All/every. I thought those had the same meaning unless they changed...So I would fall in it.
EDIT: Double post........ :-/
EDIT: Double post........ :-/
lol ok. but I'm sure TKD knows what he's doing in the MU.
NAKAT
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Rizk18
Smash Lord
When Fox starts getting uair'd repeatadly into a nair against MK, is there a way to escape the uair or something within like the first hit or 2 hits?
TKD
Smash Lord
/\ That's a post more fitting of Fox board's Q&A. Anyway, any char can SDI or QCDI out. Away works, down+away works better.
Poltergust
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NAKAT
Smash Champion
Wtf.....that was magical.
da K.I.D.
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i read part of iblis' thing about fox vs nado
and most of what i read boiled down to, 'if the mk is bad at nadoing, fox runs a free **** parade on him.' granted, proper nadoing against fox is different than it is against most other characters, but that still doesnt change the fact that you are relying on people being bad to prove your point about those statements.
and most of what i read boiled down to, 'if the mk is bad at nadoing, fox runs a free **** parade on him.' granted, proper nadoing against fox is different than it is against most other characters, but that still doesnt change the fact that you are relying on people being bad to prove your point about those statements.
TKD
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As a human, you're only expected to do 1/3rd of that...but it still gets you out. (video)
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Since when was pointing out how you punish mistakes a bad thing?
punishing mistakes is the core of brawl.
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