Success/Popularity stuff. Final update coming later today!

SaveMeJebus · Oct 27, 2011

Steam said:
a character earning about 15% of the money with about 10% usage does not bother me at all.

So are you saying that usage should be about the same as the money earned percentage or what does that mean?

C.J. · Oct 27, 2011

It means that he has a subjective idea of what is or isn't too much that you can't argue with as it is his subjective opinion. So, why are you trying?

TeeVee · Oct 27, 2011

when theres a snake ditto in grand finals 6 nationals in a row, thats when you will need to be worried

Dakpo · Oct 28, 2011

TeeVee said:
when theres a snake ditto in grand finals 6 nationals in a row, thats when you will need to be worried

lolol yes this x10

SaveMeJebus · Oct 28, 2011

TeeVee said:
when theres a snake ditto in grand finals 6 nationals in a row, thats when you will need to be worried

It'll be hard for that to happen since Snake does have bad MUs. However, even when a player switches characters, there no split percentage doesn't change and the average isn't effected that much.

Doc King · Oct 28, 2011

Falco looks like he's close with Snake for tourney paper. This means that no one is overcentralizing yet. Man they're getting so much paper.

Also cool to see Ganon getting more paper than a lot of the low cast.

TeeVee · Oct 29, 2011

SaveMeJebus said:
It'll be hard for that to happen since Snake does have bad MUs. However, even when a player switches characters, there no split percentage doesn't change and the average isn't effected that much.

lol yea that was the joke, there WONT be a snake ditto in gf's 6 nationals in a row...there wont be any character ditto in gf's at a national with mk gone

Ripple · Oct 29, 2011

inb4allydittoswhoeverisinGFswithhim

hadesblade · Oct 31, 2011

Could you guys post/keep updated a list of tournaments used? Or would that add a lot of extra work? (Sorry if this has been addressed before.)

Ripple · Oct 31, 2011

hadesblade said:
Could you guys post/keep updated a list of tournaments used? Or would that add a lot of extra work? (Sorry if this has been addressed before.)

john has them, I removed them because it was a lot more work for me. why do you want them?

John12346 · Nov 1, 2011

I'd really rather not, it's just a lot of trouble.

If you want, I could just post a full list of all the tournies I've got right here, although that would take a bit of time too.

John12346 · Nov 1, 2011

Oh right, and here's the update.

This marks the first week in the history of Brawl where, over the course of a weekend, there were more MK Banned tournaments than MK Legal tournaments! Super hype train!

Update Info

Character
MK: 130.5
Dedede: 37.5
Wario: 37.5
Falco: 75.5
Diddy: 63
Olimar: 72
Lucario: 27
Snake: 30
Yoshi: 30
Z-Sheik: 22.5
Link: 22.5
Fox: 13.5
Pikachu: 13.5

User
MK: 354
Dedede: 75
Wario: 37.5
Falco: 201.5
Diddy: 189
Olimar: 72
Lucario: 27
Snake: 90
Yoshi: 90
Z-Sheik: 45
Link: 45
Fox: 27
Pikachu: 27

Player
Lee MK: 75
Lee Dedede: 75
JNig Wario: 37.5
Li-D Falco: 12.5
Gnes Diddy: 189
Gnes MK: 189
Gnes Falco: 189
Denti Olimar: 54
Trela Lucario: 27
Rayquaza07 MK: 90
Rayquaza07 Snake: 90
Rayquaza07 Yoshi: 90
Tutu Z-Sheik: 45
Tutu Link: 45
Rizk Fox: 27
Rizk Pikachu: 27
Coco Olimar: 18

Tournaments Used
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=313456
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=313432
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=313434
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MK Banned Tournaments

Character
Ike: 165
Dedede: 31.25
Wario: 146.25
Olimar: 31.25
Falco: 56.75
Diddy: 38
GaW: 64.5
Kirby: 10
Link: 4
Wolf: 142
Jiggly: 4
Luigi: 4
Ness: 4
Marth: 4
Snake: 16
ICs: 69
Zamus: 30

User
Ike: 195
Dedede: 125
Wario: 210
Olimar: 125
Falco: 110
Diddy: 53
GaW: 129
Kirby: 40
Link: 24
Wolf: 162
Jiggly: 24
Luigi: 24
Ness: 24
Marth: 24
Snake: 16
ICs: 138
Zamus: 60

Usage
Ike: 5
Dedede: 7
Wario: 6
Olimar: 6
Falco: 10
Diddy: 9
GaW: 7
Zamus: 7
Snake: 9
ICs: 4
Sonic: 2
Fox: 3
Ness: 4
R.O.B.: 4
Marth: 12
DK: 4
Peach: 9
Kirby: 4
Link: 1
Wolf: 6
Jiggly: 1
Luigi: 4
Falcon: 1
Samus: 2
TLink: 2
Lucario: 2
Pikachu: 5
Ganon: 1
Yoshi: 1
Zelda: 1
Z-Sheik: 1
Sheik: 1
Mario: 1
Pit: 1

Tournaments Used
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=313497
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=313405
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=313421
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=313489

Normal Tournaments

MK Banned Tournaments

@ the MK Banned tournament charts: Nice dominance there, Snake!

Please remember to Right Click and hit "View Image" for any image that is not large enough to be displayed properly.

Ghostbone · Nov 1, 2011

Peach still hasn't made any money lol >.>

Doc King · Nov 2, 2011

D3 making some paper now that the bat who hard countered him is gone!

Deleted member · Nov 3, 2011

Kain still does work as usual. :3

Ussi · Nov 3, 2011

Olimar making that munny, has the best money to use ratio o.o!

Doc King · Nov 3, 2011

Wow Ganon is actually making more money now than some of those low tiers. Ganon could rise a few spots in the tier list.

Steam · Nov 3, 2011

Doc King said:
D3 making some paper now that the bat who hard countered him is gone!

yeah, as much (or less) as the mid/high tiers around him... while having more usage...

TheReflexWonder · Nov 3, 2011

Did you not count this due to set payouts or something similar?

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=313489

Ussi · Nov 3, 2011

Doc King said:
Wow Ganon is actually making more money now than some of those low tiers. Ganon could rise a few spots in the tier list.

Making more money than King DDD too

Doc King · Nov 3, 2011

Ussi said:
Making more money than King DDD too

Nah. Ganon aint that good lol.

Ganon is still a low tier. He could just rise a few spots so he is no longer the worst character in the game.

John12346 · Nov 3, 2011

I did count AUSOM. Check the "Update Info," last tournament on the list of the MK Banned tournaments.

TheReflexWonder · Nov 3, 2011

John12346 said:
I did count AUSOM. Check the "Update Info," last tournament on the list of the MK Banned tournaments.

'kay, my mistake.

Grim Tuesday · Nov 3, 2011

Doc King said:
Nah. Ganon aint that good lol.

Ganon is still a low tier. He could just rise a few spots so he is no longer the worst character in the game.

I think Samus is worse than Ganondorf, but no one else, really lol

Ussi · Nov 3, 2011

Doc King said:
Nah. Ganon aint that good lol.

Ganon is still a low tier. He could just rise a few spots so he is no longer the worst character in the game.

Oh, i was looking at MK banned LOL

Ghostbone · Nov 4, 2011

Grim Tuesday said:
I think Samus is worse than Ganondorf, but no one else, really lol

Samus is higher than Ganondorf.

Even if they all lose to everyone else, Samus still beats Ganon.

Tanon · Nov 4, 2011

Judging from this data, looks like Sonic, Ike and Ganon could rise up a few spots on the list (with no MK)

Ghostbone · Nov 4, 2011

Tanon said:
Judging from this data, looks like Sonic, Ike and Ganon could rise up a few spots on the list (with no MK)

The data is nowhere near ready for major analysis.

Grim Tuesday · Nov 4, 2011

Ghostbone said:
Samus is higher than Ganondorf.

Even if they all lose to everyone else, Samus still beats Ganon.

I think Samus goes even with Ganon.

Ghostbone · Nov 4, 2011

Grim Tuesday said:
I think Samus goes even with Ganon.

Samus has zair, her moves are faster than Ganon's and she can gimp him (so her killing problem isn't that bad against him)
Then there's missiles....
It's pretty bad for Ganon.

Grim Tuesday · Nov 4, 2011

Money match me tonight, 5c.

Ghostbone · Nov 4, 2011

Grim Tuesday said:
Money match me tonight, 5c.

But 5c is real money :O

DeLux · Nov 9, 2011

Can I get an IC money count again?

That time of the month

John12346 · Nov 9, 2011

Ice Climbers

Ally 2205.5
Vinnie 1272.55
Lain 955
ESAM 873.5
Vex 504
Atomsk 378.5
Swordgard 268
Hylian 226.5
Cheese 215.8
MeroKnight 164.4
DeLux 150.4
Blue Rogue 141
Sin242 132
Sorto 100
H1N1 76
Frank Rizzle 70
GIMR 66
Cura 57
Nuke 50
Arty 49
Smoom 46.2
2D-Jeff 45
Enzo 33
MintyFlesh 27
Dakpo 26
Ninjalink 22.6
Fino 18.9
Tech_Chase 17
Bad Karma 13
darkflame 12
Ori_Bro 10
Kbot 9
Snipa 8
Rubberbandman 8
Prawn 7.5
Ambrose 5

infiniteV115 · Nov 9, 2011

Are those numbers for the IC winnings dollars? Or some sort of 'point' system?

John12346 · Nov 9, 2011

Dollars, with no splitting between characters.

John12346 · Nov 17, 2011

Well then, let's try an update! Sorry it took so long, but this is for the weekend of 11/5.

Raw Data

Character
Luigi: 30
Falco: 71.2
Peach: 57
DK: 5
Ike: 123.2
Marth: 115.8
MK: 217.4
Pikachu: 77.2
Diddy: 74.5
Snake: 12
ICs: 186
Olimar: 160
Fox: 10
Wario: 12.7
Sonic: 5
R.O.B.: 27.2
Yoshi: 7
Zamus: 60

User
Luigi: 60
Falco: 128
Peach: 62
DK: 10
Ike: 123.2
Marth: 207.2
MK: 326.8
Pikachu: 143.2
Diddy: 106
Snake: 36
ICs: 252
Olimar: 160
Fox: 20
Wario: 41
Sonic: 5
R.O.B.: 48
Yoshi: 7
Zamus: 60

Player
SheikSSBM Luigi: 60
SheikSSBM Falco: 60
Viper Falco: 30
Veggi Peach: 10
Veggi DK: 10
San Ike: 123.2
Cura Marth: 67.2
Cura MK: 67.2
Sauc3 MK: 22.4
Pikapika! Pikachu: 11.2
Pikapika! MK: 11.2
Jem MK: 72
Felix Diddy: 36
Felix Snake: 36
Felix Marth: 36
Bladewise Marth: 12
Vinnie ICs: 120
Dabuz Olimar: 60
Jtails MK: 20
Jtails Fox: 20
Lee Martin MK: 30
JNig Wario: 15
JNig Diddy: 15
BSP Sonic: 5
Kyle: 52
DarkLink MK: 26
DarkLink Marth: 26
DarkLink Falco: 26
DarkLink Wario: 26
DarkLink R.O.B.: 26
K9 Falco: 12
K9 MK: 12
Yoshiken Yoshi: 7
Denti Olimar: 100
Dakpo Zamus: 60
ALSM Diddy: 40
Disqo Bunny Diddy: 15
ESAM Pikachu: 132
ESAM ICs: 132
Kadaj Marth: 66
Kadaj MK: 66
Stingers R.O.B.: 22

Tournaments Used
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=313888
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=313801
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=313811
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=313823
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=313824
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=313803
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=313790
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30+ Entrant Tournaments

Character
Luigi: 30
Falco: 60
Peach: 5
DK: 5
Ike: 123.2
Marth: 33.6
MK: 61.2
Pikachu: 11.2

User
Luigi: 60
Falco: 90
Peach: 10
DK: 10
Ike: 123.2
Marth: 67.2
MK: 100.8
Pikachu: 11.2

Tournaments Used
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=313888
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=313801
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45+ Entrant Tournaments

Character
Luigi: 30
Falco: 60
Peach: 5
DK: 5

User
Luigi: 60
Falco: 90
Peach: 10
DK: 10

Tournaments Used
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=313888
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MK Banned Tournaments

Character
Dedede: 300
TLink: 76
Ike: 25
Sonic: 15
Diddy: 26
Olimar: 13
ICs: 18.5
Wario: 5.5

User
Dedede: 300
TLink: 102
Ike: 25
Sonic: 15
Diddy: 52
Olimar: 26
ICs: 37
Wario: 11

Usage
Dedede: 3
TLink: 4
Ike: 1
Sonic: 1
Ganon: 1
Diddy: 1
Olimar: 2
ICs: 2
Wario: 4
Pikachu: 1
R.O.B.: 1
Snake: 1
Kirby: 2
Luigi: 1
Marth: 2
Pit: 1
Wolf: 1

Tournaments Used
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=313791
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=13634046&postcount=153

Normal Tournaments

MK Banned Tournaments

Don't forget to Right Click and hit "View Image" on any image that is not large enough to be displayed properly.

san. · Nov 17, 2011

Ike did pretty well.

It's pretty much Ryo then me for making money with Ike? Who are the others, John#s?

John12346 · Nov 17, 2011

Iunno, here lol

Ryo 349
San 332.2
Infern 187.4
Berserker 69
Poyo 33
Blaise 30
ChKn 30
Jose A. 16
Nysyarc 10
Bored 10
AlpacaMan 10
SSR 7
The Brettster 4

For the weekend of 11/5 in particular, you were the only Ike who made money.

Edit: If you're talking about MK Banned tournies, btw, I don't have such a breakdown. I'm not taking names for MK Banned until 2012.

SaveMeJebus · Nov 17, 2011

Success/Popularity Tier list would be great!!!

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