Stage .H.A.C.K.ing Central

superyoshi888 · Feb 10, 2010

Hey, for anyone who cares, I updated my Castle Dedede stage. It should have fixed positioning as well as fixed spawn points for Players and Items.

Fixed Download here.

libertyernie · Feb 10, 2010

Saffron City video
Sorry about the interlacing. It was made with a DVD recorder

Mr.Weegee · Feb 10, 2010

Hey, some noobish questions that you'll probably answer in no time.

1. How do you attach a collision to a moving model? Whenever I try to edit a new collision, I can't change what model and bone it's attached to.

~~2. How do you add new models to a stage?~~ Never mind, I found it.

3. If I made a stage over FD, for example, how would I change it to go over Lylat Cruise?

Mr.Chuy · Feb 10, 2010

Mr.Weegee said:
Hey, some noobish questions that you'll probably answer in no time.

1. How do you attach a collision to a moving model? Whenever I try to edit a new collision, I can't change what model and bone it's attached to.

~~2. How do you add new models to a stage?~~ Never mind, I found it.

3. If I made a stage over FD, for example, how would I change it to go over Lylat Cruise?

1.Check the OP i think it has it
3.Edit the .rel file for lylat cruise through this guide

Mewtwo_2000 · Feb 10, 2010

I had finally a little amount of time to advance a little with mushroom kingdom 64

I'm gettin near to finish it, but I have already some things to make

Anyway, here's a pic

Eldiran · Feb 10, 2010

@Mewtwo 2000: Beautiful! Excellent work. It looks fantastic already -- which reminds me, what happened to your excellent Fourside?

alexjol · Feb 10, 2010

Mewtwo_2000 said:
I had finally a little amount of time to advance a little with mushroom kingdom 64

I'm gettin near to finish it, but I have already some things to make

Anyway, here's a pic

I love you in a non homo way for that. And lol at Shaymin XD

Oni K4ge · Feb 10, 2010

Lovin that Kingdom 64 man!

Oh, I have a question: I FINALLY got my Zebes stage to load! yaaay! However, I had to DRAMATICALLY reduce the ammount of colors, so it looks crappy. The stage itself looks sepia and the background looks like **** :U So how do I increase the colors without it freezing? I'm editing over the hyrule castle stage btw.

EDIT: Nvm, fixed it myself!

I have some perfecting on collision, then PICS! Whoo!

Mewtwo_2000 · Feb 10, 2010

Eldiran said:
@Mewtwo 2000: Beautiful! Excellent work. It looks fantastic already -- which reminds me, what happened to your excellent Fourside?

I'm advancing with it too, I had animated the ufo yesterday, but not finished (I have to make it appear from both sides and then dissapear)

alexjol said:
I love you in a non homo way for that. And lol at Shaymin XD

xD

Oni K4ge said:
Lovin that Kingdom 64 man!

Oh, I have a question: I FINALLY got my Zebes stage to load! yaaay! However, I had to DRAMATICALLY reduce the ammount of colors, so it looks crappy. The stage itself looks sepia and the background looks like **** :U So how do I increase the colors without it freezing? I'm editing over the hyrule castle stage btw.

EDIT: Nvm, fixed it myself! I have some perfecting on collision, then PICS! Whoo!

Is it 2D or 3D? I had changed the type of the 2D object I used in my mushroom kingdom so they aren't needing palettes now, this could be useful to make unlimited-color 2D stages, if that's the case

superyoshi888 · Feb 10, 2010

Lol, I just got an awesome idea for a Pictochat edit. It'll be mainly a texture hack, but it'll also have changed death lines and the stage hazards will either be removed entirely or just changed so that they can't damage.

EDIT: Also, since I apparently fail at making GCTs, could someone give me one that simply has the File Patch code?

BG3 · Feb 10, 2010

@Mewtwo2000: That stage is excellent, if not almost perfect. Just a couple tiny things though. On the right side of the stage, there are two brown colored platforms. I'm pretty sure you know this, but I'm just pointing it out. Also, do the pipes do anything in your stage, or are they just for show? Either way, it's cool seeing them.

Oni K4ge · Feb 10, 2010

Mewtwo_2000 said:
I'm advancing with it too, I had animated the ufo yesterday, but not finished (I have to make it appear from both sides and then dissapear)

xD

Is it 2D or 3D? I had changed the type of the 2D object I used in my mushroom kingdom so they aren't needing palettes now, this could be useful to make unlimited-color 2D stages, if that's the case

2D. That's all I know how to make xD And what do you mean changed the "type"?

Hozu · Feb 10, 2010

Mewtwo_2000 said:
EDIT: I'm posting this one too, this is alexjol's dragoon on lylat cruise

I just helped him to make it work properly

---Image cut out to not quote the pic---

http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?ywjw5ljo0y2

The jet flame effect is really distracting because it's in the middle of the stage, and the whole stage disappears when it warps to another area.

Otherwise it's a pretty cool stage.

RandomTBush · Feb 10, 2010

I'll use this post for stages that ApocHedgie and I have made for Brawl.

ApocHedgie

Mystic Cave Zone

Download / Video

RandomTBush

World Martial Arts Tournament

Download / CPU-friendly version by ds22 / Video

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[collapse=Original Post]My younger brother (ApocHedgie) and I are working on a few stages for Brawl. So far, he's made one 2D stage (using KuroBit's 2D Hyrule Castle as a template), based off of Mystic Cave Zone from Sonic the Hedgehog 2, and he wanted me to post it up here for him.

Here's the Youtube video he posted to showcase the stage, and the download link for it. He wants to know what you guys think of it. It is a pretty large stage, though (about the same size as New Pork City?), so I know a few of you won't like it. =/

(And if this post will be linked to in the first post, use this colour, since I'll add to this sometime later.)[/collapse]

Alphatron · Feb 10, 2010

^I'm gonna download it and play on it anyway and I don't even like New Pork City. But I love big stages. Awesome work right there.

Revven · Feb 10, 2010

I would only dislike that stage for two reasons: Walk-offs and how easy it is to just hit and run (perfect for Sonic as shown in the video). I DO however, love you guys for making another Sonic stage that actually looks a lot better than what we got when we bought the game (Green Hill Zone is what I'm referring to).

Encourage your younger bro to continue work like this regardless of how some of the competitive people (like me) feel about the stage. Stuff like this is really cool and may be fun to mess around with in FFAs or something.

He should totally do Chemical Plant Zone next or one of the Eggman boss stages (preferably one that doesn't have walk-offs)

RPGsFTW · Feb 10, 2010

By chance, are there any DL links to these stages below? I'd really love to play on them.

Metal Mario Stage (I saw it before!)
Peachs' Castle 64 (Was it even done?)
Dreamland 64 (Was it even done?)
Fourside (I saw it before too!)

Please, guys. I mostly want the Metal Mario Stage. I've always wanted to play on it since Smash 64. I finally see that someone was working on it, then there is no more news about it. Why!?

Eldiran · Feb 10, 2010

@RandomT: That is excellent! It looks very nice. Unfortunately, as demonstrated by the video, it'd be near impossible to battle on properly (too many loops). I can think of a number of good, playable stages that could be made by cutting it into smaller chunks, though.

For example, cutting the stage vertically down the middle and using either half... or even cutting the stage into quarters and using any one quarter. Or cutting the stage horizontally in the center and removing the center platform.

It's good though; I'm just being harsh because feedback was requested. I'd be glad to see more quality 2D stages from good source material.

MK26 · Feb 10, 2010

metal mario pic was a wip with collision data

and i dont know how many times i have to say this, but its not "if" ill link it to the op, its "you ask, i do". By the way, Mystic Cave Zone looks sick. Gj Apoc+RandomT

Mr.Weegee · Feb 10, 2010

How do you attach collisions to moving objects?

I checked the OP (well, the whole of the 1st page), and it said to right click the object list. That only allowed me to make new collision data, snap, or delete.

But how do you change what model and bone it's attached to?

MK26 · Feb 10, 2010

Select teh collision object and type in the model and bone name below

Mr.Weegee · Feb 10, 2010

There's a text box but I can't type in anything.

Mewtwo_2000 · Feb 11, 2010

BG3 said:
@Mewtwo2000: That stage is excellent, if not almost perfect. Just a couple tiny things though. On the right side of the stage, there are two brown colored platforms. I'm pretty sure you know this, but I'm just pointing it out. Also, do the pipes do anything in your stage, or are they just for show? Either way, it's cool seeing them.

At the moment they just show, but my plan from the beginning is trying to make some warping system that's in my mind. If I make it and people don't really like it, I can make a warpless version too. Anyway, it's in my mind and I'm not sure if it will work properly when made

Oni K4ge said:
2D. That's all I know how to make xD And what do you mean changed the "type"?

I mean it works with a different type of texture, and doesn't need a palleted texture anymore

I did this because of some flashing and coloring problems I had when I was starting the stage. I tried everything to fix the palletes, and the last (and successful) thing I did was changing it from I8 (I guess) to CMPR

superyoshi888 · Feb 11, 2010

Mr.Weegee said:
There's a text box but I can't type in anything.

Click on the model of your choice in the list of models, then go to the bone you wish to attach it to, and click on the + button. If you make a mistake, just click the - button and try again.

Oni K4ge · Feb 11, 2010

Mewtwo_2000 said:
At the moment they just show, but my plan from the beginning is trying to make some warping system that's in my mind. If I make it and people don't really like it, I can make a warpless version too. Anyway, it's in my mind and I'm not sure if it will work properly when made

I mean it works with a different type of texture, and doesn't need a palleted texture anymore

I did this because of some flashing and coloring problems I had when I was starting the stage. I tried everything to fix the palletes, and the last (and successful) thing I did was changing it from I8 (I guess) to CMPR

Ohh I see. Well, yeah the stage looks loads better now, but I think theres still room for improvement. Oh, and I tried loading it over Brinstar, and no lava ever showed up :U I'll keep it as the base anyway though.

EDIT: Oh, and to whoever made that Venom stage, go extract the model with "Enkei" in it from a brinstar texture. There's your cave

superyoshi888 · Feb 11, 2010

So, if I use a modified rel file to load my stage instead of Rumble Falls or whatever it was called, does it load the Wi-fi Waiting Room's music or the normal stage music?

Oni K4ge · Feb 11, 2010

superyoshi888 said:
So, if I use a modified rel file to load my stage instead of Rumble Falls or whatever it was called, does it load the Wi-fi Waiting Room's music or the normal stage music?

normal stage music :/

superyoshi888 · Feb 11, 2010

Oh, well that sucks. Guess I'll have to make copies of that one song then...

Angelglory · Feb 11, 2010

Right now I'm working on two new custom stages.

#1. The Roost: I'm attempting to make the Roost into a stage by taking the appropriate characters and props from the AC stage and putting them in some enclosed place then texture it too look like the Roost. I haven't really looked for or found an appropriate background area to use, but I've got Brewster and K.K. Slider ready to insert. I may end up editing a spring to use as tables

#2. Mario Party Picnic*: This is simpler and harder than The Roost as I've got a lot more animated things to add. This stage is essentially Mario characters in the background of the stage frolicking and watching the players fight. This is harder in the fact that I have to give all of them custom animations and what not.

Also if anyone has suggestions for Mario characters in Brawl (or perhaps from imported models) besides: Waluigi, Daisy(Peach), Petey, Hammer Bro or Shy Guy in a kart please feel free to tell me. Or better yet, send me a working model through PM or Skype (Angelglory69)

kthnxbai
(*= name is tentative)

Slashy · Feb 11, 2010

Koopa Troopas, Goombas, Ninjis, and Birdo

superyoshi888 · Feb 11, 2010

Ninjis are in Brawl?

Angelglory · Feb 11, 2010

No and neither is Birdo, but I did manage to grab Goomba, Koopa (Para)Troopa and Bullet Bill as well as snagging Toad off of Peach's Motion file.

luigiman1928 · Feb 11, 2010

EDIT: Nevermind. Are going to animate the characters or leave them standing there?

Angelglory · Feb 11, 2010

I'm going to animate them all, of course. It'd be boring if they just stood there.

For example, Bullet Bill will probably just fly back and forth while maybe Goomba and Hammer Bros play tennis with a Koopa shell. Petey will be the hardest since his arms are separate models from his body.

Mewtwo_2000 · Feb 11, 2010

Oni K4ge said:
Ohh I see. Well, yeah the stage looks loads better now, but I think theres still room for improvement. Oh, and I tried loading it over Brinstar, and no lava ever showed up :U I'll keep it as the base anyway though.

EDIT: Oh, and to whoever made that Venom stage, go extract the model with "Enkei" in it from a brinstar texture. There's your cave

I'll get the cave and the airwings (showing up airwings where you can stand) when I get some time next week. I have to finish fourside and mushroom, though

Progress made with mushroom kingdom 64, the pipes are working! (kind of xD)

The image can't tell any much, but tested and works ^^U xD

Oni K4ge · Feb 11, 2010

Did you make the one that sticks out of the gap in the bottom of the stage? Classic trap xD

Mewtwo_2000 · Feb 11, 2010

Not yet, the pipe exist now (yesterday didn't exist yet) but I've focused in the main warping "system" to work "properly"

I'll implement the trap next week I suppose xD

I'm hoping to release it within next week or in the following one ^^U

Oni K4ge · Feb 11, 2010

Mewtwo_2000 said:
Not yet, the pipe exist now (yesterday didn't exist yet) but I've focused in the main warping "system" to work "properly"

I'll implement the trap next week I suppose xD

I'm hoping to release it within next week or in the following one ^^U

Ah. Well I'm looking forward to that and Fourside for sure. More Fourside really, because I grew up with Melee, and 64 I got last friday (the actual cartridge too, bc my buddy gave me his N64!)

Shadic · Feb 11, 2010

How exactly do stage lights work? A friend and I have had no luck in changing how they effect the stage itself.

Alphatron · Feb 11, 2010

Mewtwo_2000 is awesome, hands down.

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