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It is. However, it is completely unrealistic to expect a majority of smashers to reach that level. And at virtually every other level other than the absolute top of what we are currently capable of, MK dominates. I believe the reason he doesn't at the very highest level is because there's only one MK in that truly highest level, and he seems to be terrible in the diddy matchup. That or ADHD is just better.
Running away, but that is beatable.
Marvel vs Capcom 2 Akuma, X-men vs Street Fighter Akuma, Children of the Atom Akuma, Cyber Akuma, Marvel Super Heroes vs Street Fighter Akuma, SNK vs Capcom (NGPC) Akuma, I believe SNK vs Capcom (Arcade) Akuma, Street Fighter Alpha Akuma, Alpha 2 Akuma, Alpha 3 Akuma and I think a few more.
What other solutions apart from a character ban over something that's already illegal?
We cater to ICs. Ban ICs.
I have never alluded to anything of the sort. I am merely stating that before we discuss any more of his other types of stalling, a rule that enforces the "no stalling" rule that his unbeatable planking breaks is necessary.
20 isn't incredibly low. You won't go over 20 without ledge camping to some degree (either beatable or unbeatable, but it's unrealistic to hit 20 when playing a normal match).
Except we ALREADY HAVE A RULE THAT STATES THAT HIS UNBEATABLE PLANKING IS ILLEGAL. However, there is no possible way to enforce that rule without a ledge grab limit.
Ban Ice Climbers.
And is illegal in our current ruleset. There's just no way to enforce the rule we have right now without a ledge grab limit.
I don't see a rule in place on the offical BBR ruleset other than a no stalling rule, which arguably Planking is not stalling, just ridiculous defensive play that can't be beaten.
We don't cater to them. Do we place rules down so they can't run free? Nope.
Fun how you say that yet you clearly stated before you would ignore anyone who mention scrooging or other such tactics.
You sometimes do when you need to fake the opponent out to get back on. Of course it's MK so he shouldn't have a problem, but if he hits over 20 then whats stopping character for trying to run out the clock on him no matter what stock or percent they have left?
The stalling rule is arbitrary. The stalling rule needs to prove intent proving also that the tactic makes you untouchable. MK is technically touchable, even for 3 frames And what happens when people say, "I'm not running the clock out I'm just not trying to get hit." "I'm not planking I'm trying to get back on the ledge safely."
We should enforce our rulesets if someone breaks them, but the stalling rule is hard to enforce at times when we can't prove intent. Not to mention we're basing it off the TO's opinion with no set standard of what is stalling and what isn't.
The 300% rule was put in place day 1, mostly because that's how it was in Melee. It's not there for IC's it's there because it stops anyone who may have gained on from stalling with it.
I'm sorry but what?! His other methods are quite on topic when they can let him avoid a LGL. Listen to yourself talk and look at the quote you took of me. I mention LGL's which is the topic on hand, so your statement is false.
Define stalling, especially since the rule in place for stalling is arbitrary to hell.
The difference here is that the 300% isn't for IC's, it's for infinites. I'm saying we're catering to MK because he keep making rules specifically for him.
So I read everything posted on these forums, of course I always do.
XD.2 Sonic mains
I think he's trying to say that you guys are inherently bad and ignorant about this game, otherwise you would've picked a better character to main...
*looks at everyone who does NOT use MK*
I think once people learn how to play D3 vs Marth you'll actually see a lot less of him once MK goes away. >_>
Thats why i have Olimar and IC's and Falco to protect me.
Sonic's too fast for him to reliably grab. It's actually really bizarre to play.
mhm I was thinking the same.
Fat penguin sucks.
D3 is the most reliable hard counter in the game for a lot of characters, thought. :3
Right, so on my CP when someone stays Mario/Luigi/Samus/DK/Bowser, I go to counterpick D3 and the--- oh wait. That's right. His standing infinites are banned in the vast majority of tournaments >_>
Couldn't have said it better myself.
Meh. If it's enough to put DK in low tier tournaments.
You can still CG those characters, with the exception of Luigi, and even then, NONE of them can do anything to D3 even if all he does is backthrow them. The matchup just goes from 100-0 to 90-10.
I was talking about removing CGs from the movesets of a bunch of characters. That is to say, we have already limited characters before, so I'm not sure what the issue is now.
Name them.
You're totally mis-interpreting what I'm saying.
I do think its a terrible idea regardless.
That's the joke! We banned something not broken for the wrong reasons, and now we have issues banning a technique that is broken for the right reasons.
As in, I'm also a Sonic main and I put him on my ignore list lol.
Sad but true.
As people have said, it's play to win, so they will find loopholes, and then we fall back into square one.
I believe its ganon banned
Peach, jiggly, Ganondorf.
