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Stunts · Nov 18, 2011

I'm sorry to break this hardly relevant arguement about the worst consoles (wtf?), but I've come to notice that Yoshi is adapting to his 64 phase, again. This is mainly a good thing since that was his best iteration. Though I do admit that not everything is better in this version, just the best strategies overall. That being said (as a personal request from me to the PMBR), please don't get rid of the tail wag (brawl bair). Im exclusively talking about only the brawl version, because of the hitbox and the "keep away" approach of the move. 64 bair is good, but I like the tail wag better. I think it adds more character to yoshi, anyway.

Jonny Westside · Nov 18, 2011

lol Yoshi's Smash 64 Bair. The only Bair from that game I approve of is Samus' <--This is getting added right?

Stunts · Nov 18, 2011

Unholydeath123 said:
lol Yoshi's Smash 64 Bair. The only Bair from that game I approve of is Samus' <--This is getting added right?

Yes, it's already added

hotdogturtle · Nov 18, 2011

9Kplus1 said:
You can't deny that each console (handheld excluded, as the GBA and DS are far too convenient to be considered bad) after the N64 only shows Nintendo's steady decline,

Sure I can. I'll do it right now, even. Stating your opinion using the sentence structure of a fact doesn't make it a fact. It's still an opinion, which can be argued or agreed with in accordance with other people's opinions. And the second half of your sentence which I didn't quote also contains several subjective and non-empirical statements.

Yeroc · Nov 18, 2011

KB only, not animation.

For now all I can say is I'm working on some ideas for Samus, and I hope some of them prove worthwhile.

Edit: Ninja'd. My response was to Stunts.

Jonny Westside · Nov 18, 2011

Stunts said:
Yes, it's already added

It is? I haven't seen it in streams. All I see is her Melee/Brawl Bair in action, unless you mean that it has the Smash 64 properties?

Yeroc · Nov 18, 2011

Sorry I ninja'd you with my ninja'd post there UD. :D

Stunts · Nov 18, 2011

Unholydeath123 said:
It is? I haven't seen it in streams. All I see is her Melee/Brawl Bair in action, unless you mean that it has the Smash 64 properties?

yeah, that's what I meant. sorry for the confusion

BLARGG · Nov 18, 2011

Yeroc said:
KB only, not animation.

For now all I can say is I'm working on some ideas for Samus, and I hope some of them prove worthwhile.

What? No ridiculous overhead kick? That's pretty much the worst news I've heard today

Giygacoal · Nov 18, 2011

It has been confirmed that the Wii U online service won't have friend codes, so Nintendo is certainly on the right track. It isn't general public knowledge exactly how good the online service will be, but at least one guy from EA said it's really good... so we'll just have to wait and see.

As for the graphical capabilities of the system, it's at least HD, and supposedly the developers' kit could outperform the PS3. Besides, since the best video game graphics haven't even reached the point of individual atom rendering instead of texturing (lol extremism), I see no point in worrying about Nintendo having the absolute best graphics for a long time. I mean, sure, Sony and Microsoft will soon come out with even more graphically advanced systems, but would that even matter for the next five years?

9Kplus1 · Nov 18, 2011

hotdogturtle said:
Stating your opinion using the sentence structure of a fact doesn't make it a fact. It's still an opinion, which can be argued or agreed with in accordance with other people's opinions.

Where in my posts did I not make this clear? I didn't imply in any way that my arguments were more valid than anyone else's, let alone push them as a fact. Me saying, "you can't deny [statement]", doesn't exactly mean that I believe I'm speaking facts. A statement like that can be easily argued against, dismantled, and definitely disproven; because I'm not stating my argument while implying vast superiority over the opposing person(s), it can be approached -- and I'd realized this beforehand. I treat each person's argument the same, which is finding viability in each statement unless there's a higher source of power proving otherwise.

hotdogturtle said:
And the second half of your sentence which I didn't quote also contains several subjective and non-empirical statements.

Really? A simple Google search would provide solid enough evidence backing up my statement comparing the accomplishments of Nintendo to other franchises -- speaking of which, were the base of my arguments. It's not a difficult task to gather a simple group of gamers for the purpose of figuring out which games (and by extent, consoles) are favored more than others. That kind of assumption is definitely verifiable.

Shadic · Nov 18, 2011

Let us stay on topic, children.

And Samus Bair is actually an altered animation - her foot swings more vertically.

9Kplus1 · Nov 18, 2011

How does MK being able to AD out of Shuttle Loop sound to anyone? It could be useful for platform shenanigans (combos) and recovery, both of which MK would love to have a bit of help with. (Not saying that MK's recovery or combo-ability is terrible, but giving SL more utility would be awesome).

standardtoaster · Nov 18, 2011

Pm tourney tomorrow. I hope I do well. I'll be using sheik and zelda for sure. I will also be recording any money match.

BLARGG · Nov 18, 2011

Shadic said:
Let us stay on topic, children.

And Samus Bair is actually an altered animation - her foot swings more vertically.

And now, it's suddenly the best news I've heard all day. I'm so easily excitable

I haven't been on the streams this week, but how on earth could MK's SL be made more useful? That move was freaking ridiculous in brawl, in regard to recovery and attack. Was there a change made this week?

humble · Nov 18, 2011

Sounds awesome Toast, can't wait to watch the matches. How many people will be there? Hope it goes well!

standardtoaster · Nov 18, 2011

I'm guessing 15 or so entrants to the pm tourney hopefully.

Jonny Westside · Nov 18, 2011

Assuming that Zair moves are vital in P:M on stage, is it possible to code an auto L cancel?

Spoon~ · Nov 18, 2011

BLARGG said:
...I can see it pretty clearly... Let's count the good games, shall we?

1. Super Smash Melee

And that's it on my list... Granted, that game is SO good that I've logged more hours playing it than sleeping, but the point remains.

Phantasy star 1&2.

Xebenkeck said:
I don't know spoons are sneaky.

I am far from sneaky

Shadic · Nov 18, 2011

Unholydeath123 said:
Assuming that Zair moves are vital in P:M on stage, is it possible to code an auto L cancel?

They already have far less lag than Melee's.

Cero · Nov 18, 2011

Still haven't gotten an answer to this.

Is there still an effort being put into coding in light shields?

GHNeko · Nov 18, 2011

Someone talk about Match ups.

Strong Badam · Nov 18, 2011

Cero said:
Still haven't gotten an answer to this.

Is there still an effort being put into coding in light shields?

yes, why wouldn't there be?

humble · Nov 18, 2011

GHNeko said:
Someone talk about Match ups.

Sandbag has a 0:100 matchup with the entire cast.

JCaesar · Nov 18, 2011

Anyone here going to RoM?

jalued · Nov 18, 2011

GHNeko said:
Someone talk about Match ups.

from all the experience that the majority of us have?

Taking a swing, ike 60-40 v DK, maybe worse. He can outspace, edgeguard (with almost everything) and DK has a hard time sweetspotting. He pretty much outmatches him in everything

Deleted member · Nov 18, 2011

Yeroc said:
For now all I can say is I'm working on some ideas for Samus, and I hope some of them prove worthwhile.

Elaborate.

I hope you make her faster paced with a better short hop and cool physics. Also make her do cool combos and stuff.

Revven · Nov 18, 2011

drpepper111 said:
Elaborate.

He can't, you will have to wait and see.

Flayl · Nov 18, 2011

How's the Marth VS Bowser matchup looking like?

ds22 · Nov 18, 2011

humble said:
Sandbag has a 0:100 matchup with the entire cast.

I beg to differ:

MonkUnit · Nov 18, 2011

I'm going to use Charizard in the pm tourney at SMASH! Minnesota.

Edit: lmao ds22

♡ⓛⓞⓥⓔ♡ · Nov 18, 2011

Please record everything <3

standardtoaster · Nov 18, 2011

That's the plan.

Mono. · Nov 18, 2011

jalued said:
from all the experience that the majority of us have?

Taking a swing, ike 60-40 v DK, maybe worse. He can outspace, edgeguard (with almost everything) and DK has a hard time sweetspotting. He pretty much outmatches him in everything

I agree with this. I never played many DKs to begin with but whenever I did, I could just feel the advantage. Everything that was thrown out, I had an answer to almost immediately and then some.

phurgawtin · Nov 18, 2011

I know its honestly too soon in the metagame of an everchanging game to really get any matchup data, especially considering that there are different ways of playing each character, but does anyone have an opinion on Wolf v Marth?

drsusredfish · Nov 18, 2011

what do you think lucarios matchup is like against falco or fox? i wana say 50-50. He doesn't shine but he looks like he's almost unpunishable on sheild if he chooses the right cancels. and since fox and falco get comboed easily it may be in lucarios favor.

JCaesar · Nov 18, 2011

Page 1200 w00t!

On topic: I doubt Lucario's cancels can beat shine OOS.

Supreme Dirt · Nov 18, 2011

Fox vs. Falco, 50:50.

Calling it.

GHNeko · Nov 18, 2011

I do.

Marth does marth things to wolf and he gets ****ed up.

Wolf plays keep away because he can't press offence like fox and falco.

imo 60-40 in marth's favor.

Xebenkeck · Nov 18, 2011

The only really lopsided match-up i've seen from just watching streams was Zelda vs DK. I forget, but I think it was Bandit vs Jcaesar, but Zelda outprioritized everything DK did. Plus Dk large body = lightning kicks all day. Tis magic I say lol.

Dunno maybe i need to see Strong Bad's DK vs Zelda for a better sampling.

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