Now updated.
I've seem to have gotton a rebuttle on the Mario boards.
Bull. All Bull.
Mario ***** Ness' recovery. Period. There's no way around that, you have NO third jump. That alone would give Mario the advantage, but let's delve deeper.
Ness' fair is the only aerial worth anything. Mario has double sh aerials that all combo into each other aside from his fair, all lightening quick, and have many uses. Bair's good for spacing, Dair and Nair for priority, and all are good combo starters. If you were going to attack something, it definitely shouldnt have been Mario's aerial game.
His groundgame > Ness' as well. MUCH faster smashes aside from Ness' Fsmash, which comes out as quick as our Dsmash or reverse Usmash. More KO power with and Up-angled Fsmash. Excellent Jab game that ***** Ness, double SH aerials, cape for your PK fire/thunder, and can actually combo moves into each other. Utilt chains, Uair chains, Jab-Dsmash all work on Ness without fail.
Mario's edgeguarding on Ness >>>>> Ness' edgeguarding on Mario. Please don't try to argue against this, you'll just seem silly. Fludd ***** your recovery harder than anyone else on the roster.
The ONLY thing I'd give Ness in this matchup is approach because for his Fair, which can be shieldgrabbed either way.
7:3 Mario's favor.
Edit: Just because you have your DownB to make a fireball approach less useful, don't think that it won't happen. If you recover that percent, you still have lag after taking down the magnet, which I, for one, would abuse the hell out of.
Do your research dude, I guarantee the only Mario you've played was one of these scrubs runnin around here. Play a good one.
Discuss.
You call my argument one-sided when you post crap like that? I admit, mine was rushed, but you must agree, your's is pretty terrible. Mario's ground game is average (like Ness')
MUCH faster smashes? lol.
***** his recovery is a bit much. Fair is the only aerial worth anything. LOL. You may play Mario 24/7, but you surely know nothing about other characters. Ness has some of the best aerials in the game.
Ness Nair, bair, uair and dair all trump Mario's in terms of effectiveness. I've seen Mario's aerials, they're not that impressive.