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No Waahs 2: Balls Mandatory Saturday, April 10th, 2010 Scarborough, Canada

Gichan

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No Waahs 2:
Balls Mandatory


Just For Kicks
445 Midwest road
Unit 34
Scarborough
Saturday, April 10th, 2010




Prices
Venue fee: $5 for confirmed attendance $10 at the door (includes "maybes" so you people better confirm)

Brawl:
Singles: $10
Doubles: $20 ($10 per person) (if enough interest)

Brawl +:
Singles: $5

Payout

1st Place: 50%
2nd Place: 25%
3rd Place: 15%
4th Place: 5%
5th Place: 2.5 (x2)​


Schedule: (will get updated)
9am-9pm

9am: Doors open
10am: registration begins for singles and doubles (BE THERE!)
11am: Brawl doubles
1-15pm: Singles pools
5ive arrives: Brawl + singles registration (possibly doubles depending on tv and time)

Food:
There is a Tim Hortons that is right across the street and a Subway that is about a 5 minute walk away.

Also the owner wants to do a BBQ with hamburgers, hot dogs and cans of pop. The hamburgers and hot dogs would be $2 each and pop would be $1.

Directions from TTC transit:
1)From the TTC subway ( on Bloor-Danforth line, green) take the train to Midland station.

or

2) From the Yonge- University line (yellow) transfer to the Danforth line either on Spadina, St. George, or Bloor-Yonge and follow directions above (Bloor-Danforth)

3) Once you reach Midland station, take the 57 to ellesmere road. 5 minute walk to venue.


There are other ways to reach the venue, choose your preference.

For driving:
google maps people,
update on parking soon.


Super Smash Brothers: Brawl (Brawl +)

Brawl + modifications in bracket

General rules:
-3(4) Stock
-8 minute timer
-Items are set to "off" and "none"
-All sets with the possible exception of winner's finals, loser's finals, and the championship are best of 3 matches (best of 5 and above is recommended for any "finals" matches)
-In the event of a dispute, controller ports will be selected by Rock-Paper-Scissors
-No player may choose a stage they have already won on in that set unless agreed upon by both players.
-In team matches, the ports will be determined in a 1221 fashion; whoever wins the RPS will choose first, then the opposing team will get their ports, and then the teammate of the RPS winner will get the last port.
-If the timer runs out, the victor is determined first by stock and then by percentage.
-Metaknight's Infinite Cape glitch is banned.
-If a game ends with Bowser doing his suicide klaw and it ends in sudden death, the sudden death will be ignored and that game will count as a win for Bowser.
-You are responsible for your own controller and name tag. Any malfunctions or errors that occur are your responsibility, so bring an extra controller if possible and always check to make sure you're using the correct settings BEFORE a match is played. If a match is to be restarted due to controller functions, it must be agreed upon by both parties.
-Any action that can prevent the game from continuing (i.e., freezing, disappearing characters, game reset, etc.) will result in a forfeit of that match for the player that initiated the action. You are responsible for knowing your own character, and must be wary about accidentally triggering one of these effects.
Stalling is banned. Planking is not allowed.
Stalling: The act of deliberately avoiding any and all conflict so that one may make the game unplayable. Running away from an opponent to reach a better position is not stalling, while doing an infinite grab endlessly against a wall is. Any infinite chain grabs most end quickly after 300% has been reached so as to prevent excessive stalling.
-40 ledge grab limit. If a player surpasses the limit and the timer runs out, the player who surpassed the limit automatically loses regardless of stock or percent. If both players surpass the limit and the timer runs out, the player who will win is determined by 1st stock and then percentage.

Infinite Grabs: Gentlemen's rule (we don't like it, but if you need to do it to win, go right ahead).


Set format (In Order of Procedure):
1. Opponents choose their characters for the first match *
2. Opponents start the stage striking procedure
3. Each player may announce one stage to be banned for counterpicks of the set
4. The first game is played, using the stage chosen during step 2
5. The loser of the previous match announces the next match's stage from either the Starter Stage List or the Counter Stage List
6. The winner of the previous match chooses their character
7. The loser of the previous match chooses their character
8. Repeat steps 5-7 for all proceeding matches
*Double blind character selection may be called for the first match

Stage Lists

Starter:
Battlefield
Final Destination
Smashville
Yoshi's Island
Lylat Cruise

Counterpicks:
Castle Siege
Delfino
Halberd
Jungle Japes
Pokémon Stadium 1
Pokemon Stadium 2
Brinstar
Norfair (Doubles only)
Pictochat
Frigate Orpheon
Rainbow Cruise

Brawl+ stage list

Starter

Final D
Battlefield
Smashville
Pokemon Stadium 2
Warioware (singles only)
SSE Jungle (doubles only)


Counterpick

Brinstar
Castle Siege
Delfino Plaza (doubles only)
Halberd (singles only)
Luigi's Mansion
Lylat Cruise
Pokemon Stadium 1
PTAD+
Rainbow Cruise
Skyworld+
Yoshi's Island

Banned:
Everything else.​

Optional Rules:
-Resolving Ties: Any games ending in time running out should always be decided by stock, and then percents. If percents are the same or both players die simultaneously, there will be a 1 stock overttime or the sudden death will be played out. The TO needs to decide which of these will be used before the tournament. Bowser's suicide klaw is exempt from this rule.

-Color Blind rule: Should a player have a color-based disability, he or she may request in a teams match to have a specific color for their team. This is so characters such as Lucario or

-Sonic and Lucario can be granted the blue team so that there is not unnecessary confusion.

-Wiimotes and Classic Controller users should know to take the batteries out of their controllers after finishing a set; not only will this save battery life, but it prevents accidental intereference and delay for tournament matches.

General Rules:
-no illegal substances, no alcohol, no green.
-don't smell, please shower
-Tournament matches have priority over friendlies. MMs have priority over friendlies
-Keep trash talking casual, no need for us to witness someone getting a punch in the face

Staff:
Gi
5ive
Tin Man
Troll (security to pwn *****es)

Wii + Brawl(+):
Gi x1
F1ZZ x1 (B+)
Tin Man x1
Marik x1 (B+)
Toronto Joe x1
Avarice x1 (B+)
5ive x1 (B+)
joe x1
decoy x1
Freeroller x1 x1
srtm x1
Looft x1
phiddlesticks x1

T.V.s:
F1ZZ x2
Owner of venue x2
Gi x2
Toronto Joe x1
5ive x2
Mtl x1
Raidos x2
Decoy x1
Ambrose x1
Rbox x2-3 (maybe....)

Extension Cords:

Power Bars:
Gi x2

Recording Stations:
5ive x1
Tin Man x1

Attendance List:
1. Gi
2. F1ZZ
3. Riddlebox
4. Silverdoc
5. Tin Man
6. Pause
7. Marik
8. Big Sexy (Troll)
9. Akariss
10. Rikana (maybe)
11. Holy
12. SRTM
13. Niko K
14. Inle~Orichas
15. Decoy
16. Toronto Joe
17. AvariceX
18. XxHollowCorexX
19. XxHollowCorexX +1
20. XxHollowCorexX +1 (maybe)
21. 5ive
22. Distructo
23. Eugene
24. Ray Kalm
25. Yoh
26. Crown
27. Ally
28. Mightychir
29. i1337
30. Raidos
31. Ambrose
32.SkylerSilver
33. Pharaoh
34. King Kong
35. Terra
36. Nvm
37. Iliad
38. Kenny
39. Kevin
40. Tosh
41. phiddlesticks
42. Dinner
43. Hammabro
44. Jasuke
45. Tasty
46. Freeroller
47. Looftwaffles
48. Han (!!!!!)
49. Pyro~
50 Demmy
51. Dorian
52. Kuenzal
53. Izzo
54. Tippr
55. Jigz
56. Wally
57. L2P
58-62. Rbox friends



Everyone please bring equipment!
 

F1ZZ

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Confirm me for 2 TVs and the owner of the venue for 2 as well. Wii too

I am still finding out about the venue fee.
 

Gichan

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Norfair is DOUBLES only, hellll no, I would not have that campfest legal or else we wouldn't be done till 3am considering the amount of MKs we got.

and Mikey, you're soooo gay, I can see the green in your eyes.
 

.Marik

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Confirm me, I'm coming.

I may also be coming with some Smashers wanting to get into the competitive tournament scene, so that's like four of us.

My priority is Brawl+ though. :yoshi:

This tournament is going to be dope, I can feel it.
 

swordgard

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Yo gichan, can I propose to you some different system for the stages. Get on msn asap./
 

Gichan

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Confirm me, I'm coming.

I may also be coming with some Smashers wanting to get into the competitive tournament scene, so that's like four of us.

My priority is Brawl+ though. :yoshi:

This tournament is going to be dope, I can feel it.
My tournies are usually good, I ask for a lot of help to make sure **** is always done well.
 

.Marik

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But this one is going to be better because of Brawl+.

I think you're one of the best TO's in GtaN, and I'm being straight up honest.

Can't wait for this.
 

nickcam

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$10 venue, Ps2, norfair, sonic and lucario automatically granted the blue team. What the **** is this especially the last one jesus! I think you should rename this west coast pride day or some gay crap like that cause this is funny. /troll
 

.Marik

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Nickcam, that post was really bad and you should feel ba-

Never mind. :yoshi:

West Coast DI is pretty garbage though.
 

.Marik

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I actually think, and originally stated, that Gi IS the best TO.

But I don't want drama and butthurt to result because of my personal opinion.

I know the GtaN community too well, haha.
 

Rikana

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Hopefully I can make it for Brawl+. It'll depend what assignments/events come up.
 

Gichan

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I'm best in toronto, because I'm the only one from toronto. Mikey is still the best, cause I use his help, lol. Plus he shows me his techniques.

And srtm, we don't know yet about venue fee.
 

swordgard

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Sadly I can't go(no GTA till summer for me).

Miss you troll. No worries though, Mikey can't read this.
 

swordgard

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Heres the new system, if anyone could playtest it at next big casual. Heres a convo between me and gi about it. In red is the gist of it.

Swordgard von karma/Unlocking the potential of uncharted abilities. Ice climbers; two characters, squared the possibilities. says:
*can i ask you
... says:
*?
Swordgard von karma/Unlocking the potential of uncharted abilities. Ice climbers; two characters, squared the possibilities. says:
*why do we give an advantage to the loser in the counterpick system?
*why are some stages "ok" and some only "ok" when you lose
*seems to me like either a stage is fine or its not
... says:
*yes
*but
Swordgard von karma/Unlocking the potential of uncharted abilities. Ice climbers; two characters, squared the possibilities. says:
*then why make a system based around giving the loser an unfair advantage
... says:
*a stage is ok when you lose to try to gain an advantage
*how is it unfair?
*winning the first match is important
*for that reason
Swordgard von karma/Unlocking the potential of uncharted abilities. Ice climbers; two characters, squared the possibilities. says:
*oh, no thats a consequence
*not a justification
*why should you get help
*because you lose
*to me, seems pretty anti competitive
*not only this, but most "neutrals" actually are far from being neutral
*whos to say the most neutral stage isnt castle siege
*there is no character that really dominates there
*same for lylat
... says:
*mk ***** on lylat
*DDD ***** on it to
Swordgard von karma/Unlocking the potential of uncharted abilities. Ice climbers; two characters, squared the possibilities. says:
*yeah, but MK ***** pretty much everywhere tbh, FD and BF are just some of his worst stages
*as for DDD, well he gets ***** by plenty there
*falco, pikachu and so on
*hell FD
*Neutral?
*Hey thats ics best stage to most
*and falcos really good there
*diddy same
*neutral is subjective
... says:
*so what are you saying with the cp sysem?
Swordgard von karma/Unlocking the potential of uncharted abilities. Ice climbers; two characters, squared the possibilities. says:
*its flawed, but there are alternatives
*this is dastrn's system
*its derived from stage striking(hes the one who made that too)
*
There is no such thing as a neutral.
There is no such thing as a counterpick.
There is one stagelist. Stages are either legal or banned.
You strike from your full stagelist until there are 3/5/7 stages left, depending on where you are at in the tournament.
You play 1 game on each stage not struck, in the order that they are listed on the stagelist.
No more free advantages for losing a game.
No more ridiculous counterpicking advantages
.

*If you want to main 1 character with no secondaries, you'll have to focus your striking on all your bad stages.
If you want to main 2 characters, or have 1 main and 1 secondary, then you can focus a little more on striking away your opponents BEST stages, since you can be flexible with what comes up.
*By only having 1 strike session
*you allow for stage diversity
*its not always
*Neutral-RC/Your worst stage-Neutral vs MK for example
*Youl get on stages which arent your worst nor your best most of the time
*youl end up on many of these middle stages
*that are never played
*it promotes character diversity and stage diversity, and removes the "rubber banding" effect that we created
*No more Win-Loss-Win Sets
*well, save for MK
*hes one of the few who can do
*Loss-Win-Win fairly easily
*(no bad stage is really good in the old system)
*now tell me if it seems better rto you or if you have anyu questions
*brb gotta play holy
*
You have just sent a nudge.
*
... says:
*sorry I'm pretty busy right now with new flooring
*uummm...it is very very interesting indeed
*but the thing is, it is very new
*people in the gta are not going to be seeing eye to eye with that
*What I recommend is if you can please copy and paste that in the tourney thread so poeple cans ee it.
*Let's see the reaction from it and I'll decide
*I like the idea that we are not always going to be playing the same stages like SV then BF
*or SV brinstar
*etc
Swordgard von karma/Unlocking the potential of uncharted abilities. Ice climbers; two characters, squared the possibilities. says:
*exactly
... says:
*yeah
Swordgard von karma/Unlocking the potential of uncharted abilities. Ice climbers; two characters, squared the possibilities. says:
*SV-Brinstar-BF
*is kinda annoying
... says:
*I don't know if I'm up for it
Swordgard von karma/Unlocking the potential of uncharted abilities. Ice climbers; two characters, squared the possibilities. says:
*i say
*try to playtest it
*at some casual
... says:
*yeah!
*good idea
*Sauga is having a big casual next fri
*so we'll do it then
*and see how it works out


tl/dr : Read the red part.
 

swordgard

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Your money? Im pretty sure Mikey could pay your entry fee if you trolled me in this thread. Man, then id be totally done for!
 

Cruxis

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ill maybe go

depends on the likelihood of top 3, as much of a bich i may sound like

brawls not fun anymore, if i dont win cash, i wasted my time and my money.
 

Gichan

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YEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAHHHH TOURNEY TO LOOK FORWARD TO!!! Troll is excited, and excited. Ready.
I was going to name this one after you yet again. It was suppose to be Balls Mandatory: Don't Feed the Troll. but I decided on this one cause it is easier to call the tourney No waahs (2) rather than balls mandatory.

and akariss, ddd? Not bad at all.
 

Gichan

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omg man, you're one of tghe reasons I put those back, and now you can't come, god **** lol. Well hopefully you change your mind on that.

Distructo, say you confirm so i can put you on the list.
 

.Marik

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I like Dastrn's system.

Who wants to double with me for Brawl+?
 

annsy

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woooow guys...

'balls mandatory'? nao I can't go :'( that's like the "no Homers" club from Simpsons, but even worse...they allowed 1 Homer.
...and I was soo gonna bring along some good looking girls that are my uni/college friends, some even want to learn brawl. oh well ^_^
LoLz... srsly though I'll probably have to opt out for other reasons than "balls mandatory", srry!
 

Niko_K

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Confirm me for this :) I'm coming for sho!

Anyone want to team? I haven't played in a long time but I guarantee you top 3 ;)
 
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