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[DYF]

Hi!
Well I thought I'd post this mostly cause I was bored and partly because I keep seeing new things that I've been doing for a bit and other people post them sometime after I've already knew about it. So this is my attempt to add something original to the community

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZm-En-8tSAhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZm-En-8tSA

Its done by using brawls amazing buffer system.
And because I failed to explain how to do it the first time..

Okay here's an explanation:
Smash control stick away from opponent to back throw
Quickly press grab
QUICKLY smash control stick in the same direction
Press grab

Rinse and repeat.

The good side of this is thats its very platform friendly and doesn't require light fingers to do. So that may help those of you that are having trouble doing throws without dashing.

Let me know what you guys think

 

[Saltix]

can you post the input commands for this? I asked about it in my other thread, but the IC boards don't seem to be as friendly :[

 

[Mr.Victory07]

Ok, so how do you do it?

 

[Killress]

That's hawt. Care to explain it?

 

[Samsquamptch]

Okay here's an explanation:
Smash control stick away from opponent to back throw
Quickly press grab
QUICKLY smash control stick in the same direction
Press grab

Rinse and repeat.

I just did it on Snake, Marth, and Metaknight so it should be able to be done on everyone.

IMHO this is going to become the new standard in IC grab combos

 

[Speedsk8er]

THis is pretty much the only way I can do any kind of grab combos to the Motherboys, for some reason. :\ I've been working on this for a like a week.

Haven't tried it on meta or snake yet though.

 

[DYF]

delete this post please

 

[DYF]

Ok, so how do you do it?

oops sorry guys

Okay here's an explanation:
Smash control stick away from opponent to back throw
Quickly press grab
QUICKLY smash control stick in the same direction
Press grab

Rinse and repeat.

I just did it on Snake, Marth, and Metaknight so it should be able to be done on everyone.

IMHO this is going to become the new standard in IC grab combos

and that about sums it up

 

[Saltix]

Erm...when I try to do this, Popo goes sliding forward on step 3 :[

 

[stoopdklutz]

Same with me...

 

[Kalm]

This crap is so going to get either banned or limited. Already has in a few tournies and there's no way it's going to last with grabs that require that little bit of setup.

 

[DYF]

Erm...when I try to do this, Popo goes sliding forward on step 3 :[

your problem is that you're holding forward too long after the second tap which is making popo dash as soon as hes done with his throw animation. you gotta make nana throw while popo cant react, then release the conrtol stick so that popo is still standing in place when its his turn to grab. its all in the timing, you dont need to worry about being "light" on the control stick

 

[Saltix]

so by QUICKLY, it means:
As soon as you pass the oponent to Nana,
or quickly as in whenever you decide to pass it back to Popo smash it quickly as possible?

 

[Hikarihoshi]

I can do it!!!

I suck at it though... xD Most I did was 5. =/

 

[denizen]

so disgustingly awesome!

 

[B0NK]

This crap is so going to get either banned or limited. Already has in a few tournies and there's no way it's going to last with grabs that require that little bit of setup.

I don't think so because it's not that hard to avoid Ice Climbers grab if you play smart. Seeing that it says your a DK main I will use him for an example. Yes, DK is big and one of the easiest to chaingrab once you get the grab. But DK tilts and b-air easily out range my grab range. If a Climber is stupid enough to run in for the grab, you can throw out the DK Punch for an easy KO. I would be more worried about D3 because he has a much larger grab range and an easier infinite on DK.

 

[stoopdklutz]

Avoiding grabs is all about spacing. Use the range of DK to your advantage and to stay out of the IC bad grab range.

Dam stubby arms...*grumble*

 

[l3lue2ain]

omg its things like this is why I need to plug in brawl right now and start practicing because I am no where near this level. But what about people smashing buttons to try to escape that would make this extremely hard to do ? Are people trying to get out when you do this?

 

[iceclimbersinfinent]

omg its things like this is why I need to plug in brawl right now and start practicing because I am no where near this level. But what about people smashing buttons to try to escape that would make this extremely hard to do ? Are people trying to get out when you do this?

they do try to get out but you can usualy do it fast but you need to build up a little damage of course, so they cant get out before nanas grab animation is over, then its easy if you are good enough

 

[bentleet]

That is indeed going to become the new standard in cging and it works on metaknight?! I want to see a video of that, stat.

 

[Samsquamptch]

I can probably post a vid later, but I have come to rethink whether or not this will be used because in the first step Nana can trip....

Having Popo dash forward is because you waited too long to throw with Nana, having him walk forward is because you threw at the correct time but kept holding forward (not that it should stop you from getting the grab though).

On the heavy characters I'm encountering some problems because a good portion of the time Nana will slide forward, making her too far away if you buffer her forward throw. I will try and figure out the timing, but if anyone can offer some advice it would be helpful.

 

[l3lue2ain]

they do try to get out but you can usualy do it fast but you need to build up a little damage of course, so they cant get out before nanas grab animation is over, then its easy if you are good enough

why is nana animation so werid from poe?

 

[Melee1]

Nice video, its nice to see people getting faster with their chaingrabs.

 

[Saltix]

I wanna master this SO badly :[

I can't 0-death...I can 0-36 though

 

[DemonicTrilogy]

Wow, this is fantastic! The only other chain grabs I know are Ice Climber backthrow to AI downthrow and downthrow to downthrow. This will really help me when I need to chain on a platform. Plus, it looks easy enough to do.

 

[DYF]

That is indeed going to become the new standard in cging and it works on metaknight?! I want to see a video of that, stat.

I dont know about it becoming a standard, there are alot of different techniques to do ALT. grabs and they all work nicely. this is just a different style that may or may not be easier for some people, it does have some advantages tho as its very fast and doesnt move much.

Nice video, its nice to see people getting faster with their chaingrabs.

oh thanks its nice to hear from texas, the Ice climber capitol of the country

 

[l3lue2ain]

Sigh * and I am still struggling with basic grabs

 

[Speedsk8er]

What's sad is, I can't even 0-death with these little buggers. I'm like... Brawl's Choknater, except chok still plays. lol

 

[TechnoMonster]

This is also good for teams because its so fast

DYF is broken tier.

 

[l3lue2ain]

when I learn how to do this stuff I shall be elite.

 

[DemonicTrilogy]

I'm OK with the grabs... I just need to work on my spacing...

 

[l3lue2ain]

I can't grab after nana gets them.

 

[Samsquamptch]

This grab seems easier to do under pressure because you can smash the directions, but it does have the unique problem of tripping which may discourage some veterans who would rather spend more time working on a more difficult grab which leaves nothing to chance.
At a high level this seems most appropriate for teams where their teammate may try and interrupt you, but I've never really thought of IC's as a very proficient teams character.

 

[Nintendogs]

This has pretty much already been common IC knowledge. It is very similar to Hylian's CG

 

[DYF]

This has pretty much already been common IC knowledge. It is very similar to Hylian's CG

oh i was unaware of this. I've only seen his Bthrow only variation which is good for not moving but the main reason I posted this was because I thought that this technique might be helpful for some.

 

[Samsquamptch]

This has pretty much already been common IC knowledge. It is very similar to Hylian's CG

I believe you are the first person to say so.

Hylian's innovation was comparable to this, he came up with a new order for the grabs, this is a new way of inputting them (not even using the same grabs as Hylian's IIRC).

 

[Nintendogs]

I believe you are the first person to say so.

Hylian's innovation was comparable to this, he came up with a new order for the grabs, this is a new way of inputting them (not even using the same grabs as Hylian's IIRC).

Millar also brought up a thread saying that bthrow to fthrow was easier than bthrow to dthrow.

 

[DYF]

Millar also brought up a thread saying that bthrow to fthrow was easier than bthrow to dthrow.

oh... well the focus of this thread/video is not which throws you are using, but rather the way they are executed. it feels nothing like the other variations as you do it.

 

[GimR]

I do this to.

It's easier just to:

Throw left(Make sure it makes Nana dash), press Z and right on the C-stick at the same time.

 

[Byronman]

This is great. I should really practice this. I can't CG at all. Hopefully I will learn soon...