Androgyny/Cross-Dressing.

[Rubyiris]

To be specific, gender dysphoria.

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[Ramen King]

dysphoria is a symptom not a cause

 

[Rubyiris]

You want a cause? Societies' need to assign gender roles, effectively wrecking me from birth, until recently.

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[Ramen King]

Did you read #199?

 

[Rubyiris]

I like to keep myself firmly in reality.

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[Melomaniacal]

Does this thread really have to get into the flaws of reincarnation?

 

[_Keno_]

Does this thread really have to get into the flaws of reincarnation?

Y es.

 

[Corigames]

Someone who has a real, diagnosable problem should not be offered a solution rooted in fantasy. People who do that end up on the news when they have to explain why they thought prayers would save their child that they didn't take to the hospital.

Gender Identity Disorder (now named something else since disorder isn't PC for it) is very real. The solution found to end the symptoms of depression, thoughts of suicide, attempts at dismemberment, etc. is to transition to the target gender. K? K.

 

[Ramen King]

oh god, you guys are no different than anyone else who claims truth and is too intransigent to even peer at another view

you claim to know truth based on what you have been told, i claim it based on direct experience.
you claim that your reasoning is based on observation, but it is off something you read
something off some one elses claimed observation.

that is not knowledge, that is belief

 

[Rubyiris]

Your point of view is no different, under your logic.

 

[Melomaniacal]

oh god, you guys are no different than anyone else who claims truth and is too intransigent to even peer at another view

you claim to know truth based on what you have been told, i claim it based on direct experience.
you claim that your reasoning is based on observation, but it is off something you read
something off some one elses claimed observation.

that is not knowledge, that is belief

What? So where have you witnessed a "soul," and when did you watch reincarnation? Seriously, I want to know.
Your logic here makes no sense at all. It's absolutely backwards. Obviously there would be no debate if reincarnation were observable.

Am I being trolled?

 

[Rubyiris]

Unintentional troll. Guy is serious.

 

[Luigitoilet]

anime is bad for you, it turns your brain into otaku mush

 

[Divinokage]

I could say a few things about the spirit but perhaps I will later, why not. =P

 

[Rubyiris]

I'm in to manga and animu and my mind isn't weeabo goop.

 

[Luigitoilet]

I didn't say that. I said "otaku mush"

 

[Rubyiris]

same thing.

 

[Vinylic.]

Not apparently.

 

[Rubyiris]

My mind isn't otaku much over animu, lul.

If anything, it's more obsessive over TCGs. :x

Holy crap, there's a Chu in the thread.

 

[john!]

i've always wondered why having harmless yet unusual opinions is considered such a crime

probably because dumb ****s use any attempt they get to try and feel intelligent

 

[Rubyiris]

The guy's original post was both ignorant, and insulting.

 

[Holder of the Heel]

Actually we use science. The scientific method can and is applied to peoples' direct experiences, and everything that you are talking about has never achieved a working hypothesis, and the likelihood it ever will is unlikely because it has nothing going for it.

Believe it or not, I've watched ALL of the Spirit Science videos. Not just now either, I've known about them for quite some time, and in all honesty, I seriously considered them when I did watch them because my girlfriend (now ex) at the time was a follower of it. Unfortunately, the things it has talked about, while interesting and at times even provocative, states nothing scientifically or historically proven, nor can it be reconciled with common sense philosophical systems. Jordan himself states that he doesn't really purport a lot of the stuff he is saying as fact.

Anything that you have "experienced" is not what you think it is, it is simply misplaced value and meaning, which the mind does quite easily and commonly. I'm going to go out on a limb and say in terms of experience, you mean out-of-body experiences and/or crystal influences. The fact of the matter is, both have been scientifically analyzed, the latter is a pseudoscience, at most filled with coincidences or placebo affects at best, and the former has been proven to be an actual mental state of being experienced not because of anything profound, but because your mind is literally capable of forgetting where your body is under certain conditions and creates these sensations.

Not to say the some of the moral philosophies are absurd exactly or that meditation is of no use, for those do not depend on any of the consciousness nonsense.

 

[Ramen King]

Am I being trolled?

lol @ whoever said that anime thing
Best of luck Ruby.

 

[Luigitoilet]

i've always wondered why having harmless yet unusual opinions is considered such a crime

probably because dumb ****s use any attempt they get to try and feel intelligent

Ramen King was telling Ruby to stop being androgynous because of some half-baked concept of reincarnation which honestly has nothing to do with the topic at hand. Why does that merit defending? It's like telling someone to stop being gay and then citing The Thought of Eternal Recurrence as if that had something to do with it. It's dumb and offensive, and it isn't "harmless" in that context.

 

[john!]

Ramen King was telling Ruby to stop being androgynous because of some half-baked concept of reincarnation which honestly has nothing to do with the topic at hand. Why does that merit defending? It's like telling someone to stop being gay and then citing The Thought of Eternal Recurrence as if that had something to do with it. It's dumb and offensive, and it isn't "harmless" in that context.

so then what he said isn't harmless. my point stands.

 

[Corigames]

so then what he said isn't harmless. my point stands.

"i've always wondered why having harmless yet unusual opinions..."
"....harmless yet unusual..."

"It's dumb and offensive, and it isn't "harmless" in that context.
"...isn't harmless..."

Harm-less: meaning it does not harm. Therefore 'not harmless' means it causes harm. The things he's said are not harmless: they cause harm.

 

[Luigitoilet]

so then what he said isn't harmless. my point stands.

whaa? am i understanding this correctly - that your original statement about harmless opinions wasnt referring to Ramen King? well then who the heck were you talking about?

 

[john!]

whether his statements on an online message board constitute "harm" is debatable. whether they do or not, however, i stand by what i said because it applies to many other people i've talked to over the years.

 

[Supreme Dirt]

ruby I wish you luck in this

 

[Rubyiris]

Thanks! <3

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[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

Here's one thing I'd recommend. It's a reference to an infamous quote from NiGHTS Journey of Dreams, a game with an androgynous creature.

"Go over and touch NiGHTS and you'll see what I mean. That is of course... if you're into that sort of thing."

Also my school does be hosting Gender Bender Day on Spirit Week and cross dressing is fun. :D

 

[cannedbread]

that's awesome rob. i remember we were cross dressing for fun as a senior prank in high school. everyone who dressed up got sent home and suspended for 5 days though. it was all in good fun but i guess they thought it was inappropriate ):

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

that's awesome rob. i remember we were cross dressing for fun as a senior prank in high school. everyone who dressed up got sent home and suspended for 5 days though. it was all in good fun but i guess they thought it was inappropriate ):

I usually wear my mom's clothes on those days since we are around the same size. The frilly shirts she wear are the main clothes I dress up in. She's so short. XD

 

[Rubyiris]

I demand pictures c:

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