hey I was watching jerm play and it made me think of something that could really help us ROBs back on the ledge (doesn't work on SV or BF though as far as neutrals go though =/ at least we have lylat/yoshis/fd...but less useful)
if you ledgehop back, start charging your gyro immediately, then shoot it when ur at the right spot (basically the gyro should hit the ledge), it'll bounce off going at an angle the same direction you're falling, and then u can fair + gas back up to the ledge. then you have a gyro in your hand and getting back onstage will be easy. only thing is that it requires enough gas to get back (you are decently far down after the fair ends)
and someone has probably thought of this before, but it just occurred to me now lol.