ChuChuROBBuddies!

[Heartstring]

one handed melee...come on now XD

 

[Hater]

Teevee where can i see more of your sexc replays ^^

 

[Stockfield]

Yeah if you upload any tell us.

 

[T0MMY]

If you watch some vids of me in 2008 you'll see me bounce the Gyro off stage to get it in hand. I do this on Smashville, Lylat, and Pokemon stadium. Not easy, but it is possible, fyi. I generally don't rely on doing this because I'm usually against a Meta Knight who is eager to look for an opening to destroy any recovery attempts.
It's best to shoot the Gyro onto the stage where it will stop next to you and you can ADC Toss from there <=surprises almost everyone and leads to a F-Air to Glide-toss > U-Smash/F-Smash combo.

Also, Brawl > Melee. Have fun with that old game Sudai, I played it competitively for years and have barely touched it since Brawl's release. R.O.B. isn't in Melee, that is fail. (however, Pichu is almost as cute).

 

[Sudai]

I played it competitively for years before Brawl too, T0mmy. Still more fun than Brawl. Like, Melee got stale for me after a while, but Brawl got even staler, much, much faster.

 

[T0MMY]

Again... R.O.B. is not in Melee. And you have to remember I mained Pichu in Melee... that really wasn't very fun playing a joke character, lol.
Not like it matters though, play the game you like, but I like Mariokart DS best because R.O.B. is in it. Y'know. Haha

BTW... I now own THREE R.O.B.s, the last one I got came with all his parts (Two Gyros, a Gyro Chargers, etc.)
I think I'm going to get a Famicom Robot next. ([^^]

 

[stingers]

why do you love rob so much? i just play him because i'm good with him. (or was in like june 2008, lolol wish I was good with MK back then -sigh-)

 

[JCaesar]

I played it competitively for years before Brawl too, T0mmy. Still more fun than Brawl. Like, Melee got stale for me after a while, but Brawl got even staler, much, much faster.

Sooo this.

Again... R.O.B. is not in Melee.

He will be soon

And you have to remember I mained Pichu in Melee... that really wasn't very fun playing a joke character, lol.

That is entirely your choice. You can't blame the game because the character you choose to main is bad.

 

[Mister Eric]

(however, Pichu is almost as cute).

Mmmmmmmmmmhm! ^_^

And what's ADC?


edit:

You know you can grab the gyro with Z and it won't do any attack or anything, right? Much faster than fair.

Something I never really knew for sure was, what makes him sometimes air dodge grab it and sometimes just grab it w/o dodging?

At least I'm pretty sure he air dodges sometimes.

 

[Sudai]

It depends on your timing when you press Z.

 

[HollaAtchaBoy]

So apparently Toasty just now discovered the Black Keys, which makes me highly sad. It may mean that my fellow ROB mains were not aware of how amazingly hard these guys rock.

Toasty pulled a short-hopping-in-place-Meta-Knight bait tactic and told me the White Stripes were better. I was furious.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luwp5iZD8wQ

You can't rock much harder than that.

 

[Sudai]

I'm gonna have to agree with Toasty on that one.

 

[HollaAtchaBoy]

!!!

I'm leaving this thread.

 

[JCaesar]

HAB I got your ba...

Oops, almost forgot, I hate modern music.

 

[ipitydatfu]

dont leave

 

[Indigo Jeans]

GUYS NICKELBACK IS TEH ****ZORS AND MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE AND BULLET FOR MY VALENTINE

 

[stingers]

stop ****ing posting on my board.

seriously. get off my god**** board.

 

[T0MMY]

Sadly, Pichu was the most fun.
SSBB > SSB > SSBM

ADC Toss is an Air Dodge Canceled Toss.

Timing is key for Z-Air catching. Use Z-Air catch to wait before a Toss and use ADC to Toss immediately.
You all should money match Felix @ MLG and see if you can keep up with his item game... I'm going to guess there's a good chance he'll 3-stock you guys if you don't have this stuff down X^)

 

[HollaAtchaBoy]

t0mmy be still my heart at the heresy you speak...

Oh wait, I left this board...

 

[Cubone]

Again... R.O.B. is not in Melee. And you have to remember I mained Pichu in Melee... that really wasn't very fun playing a joke character, lol.
Not like it matters though, play the game you like, but I like Mariokart DS best because R.O.B. is in it. Y'know. Haha

BTW... I now own THREE R.O.B.s, the last one I got came with all his parts (Two Gyros, a Gyro Chargers, etc.)
I think I'm going to get a Famicom Robot next. ([^^]

You're probally one of the people who kept outbidding me

 

[JCaesar]

Looky looky, ROB's in Melee!

 

[stingers]

that ROB looks pretty perfect. I don't think airdashes need more startup. I would blame your opponents not being used to it at all more than the power of the technique itself. give the game some time to develop, if things conceptually look good then there is no reason to change it because of early playtesting for balance reasons.

 

[Indigo Jeans]

The only thing that's still bothering me about ROB is his un-Melee-esque projectile game. Idk, his Gyro still seems behind the pace of the game. I was thinking making it like YL's arrows. Make it semi-spammable, and have them last less on the ground, still with a hitbox. Like, have them shoot out quicker, and at a gentler angle. They still seem to centralize his game a little bit.

Not that that'll be taken seriously, or into consideration. :/

 

[JCaesar]

Like I said in the comments, we haven't gotten to the balancing phase yet. And yeah, that guy is strictly a Melee player, so he definitely didn't know what to expect.

Sorry 'turds, but I am opposed to any gyro changes. It's so unique and perfect, and the fact that it spins on the ground and can be picked up are what make it so awesome.

 

[stingers]

I know you haven't gotten to the balancing phase yet, but in the comments you also said "I agree it may still need some tweaking. Currently, airdashes have 9 frames of startup, and can be canceled into an aerial or airdodge." I'm curious as to why you said that, seeing as how Pierce only said that due to a video against a melee player who had never played Project M before.

 

[JCaesar]

"May need some tweaking" doesn't mean I agree with his specific idea. I definitely don't think it should have any more startup. It would just be clunky. And the endlag doesn't really matter much since if they're close you're gonna cancel it with something anyway. But maybe something like, the boost moves slower but has less startup. And there are other moves that need tweaking too.

 

[toasty]

whoa whoa whoa give me some credit here, HAB!

I definitely already KNEW the Black Keys and some of their music. But you made mention of two whole albums...the likes of which I could not comment on with such limited knowledge of their catalog.

 

[Indigo Jeans]

Like I said in the comments, we haven't gotten to the balancing phase yet. And yeah, that guy is strictly a Melee player, so he definitely didn't know what to expect.

Sorry 'turds, but I am opposed to any gyro changes. It's so unique and perfect, and the fact that it spins on the ground and can be picked up are what make it so awesome.

I'm saying, keep the ground spinning and pickup-ability. Just suggesting you make it shorter lived and a bit more of an offensive projectile.

 

[stingers]

9 frames of startup is relatively slow in melee, I really don't think it'll even be very useful on the ground due to how SLOW it actually is, when people get used to it, it'd be very easy to say SH Nair ROBs head with Fox when you see ROB at the right IAB (instant aerial boost, lolol) range, and even if you miss, fox is safe with no real commitment...other characters can do the same thing (falco nair, marth fair, falcon nair, etc, all hit around the head area above where ROBs fair hits). obv you can mix up the height of your side B to try and combat that, but you're simply making it even slower, and at higher levels of play if project m becomes more mainstream I can't seeing it being used as much for offensive play compared to defensive play...but that's just my theorycraft. conceptually, I think the move is balanced recovery-wise and on-stage (weak offensively, but useful for stuffing approaches...IAB wb gyro or something to that effect would be more effective than run away wb gyro now), however if you were intending it to be used often as a sort of V-13 airdash then I don't think it'll quite achieve that effect - but that remains to be seen, of course.

 

[JCaesar]

I'll leave it as is for now. Honestly, I've never played a fighting game with airdashing so I'm just kinda winging it right now I'm still getting used to it and I haven't even begun to try gyro cancel trixies with it. Airdash fair is sooo good though. Fair still has sick priority and it's safer than it was in Brawl because of shieldstun and L-canceling. Not as safe as nair though. A well-spaced nair is completely unpunishable.

 

[sneakytako]

Can you change the distance that you air dash? Kinda like phantasm canceling, with an aerial at the end lol.

 

[Sudai]

I think Aerials and Air Dashes cancel Air Dashes so yeah, you can make it shorter, just not without doing something else.

 

[ipitydatfu]

thats like TvC. Roll and Morrigan benefited off of it greatly. (i only played the japanese version, so not sure about TvC:UAS)

 

[Sudai]

Yeah, it's like GG and Blazblue and a lot of other fighters with air dashes lol. I really like the multi dash. OH, speaking of, JCaes, I have an idea to change Sonic's homing attack into something more useful. Let him cancel it with an aerial. That is, if y'all aren't done with him yet. I think y'all already finished it. lol

It makes sense cause sonic using the homing attack to attack people, but like, he moves so fast you just can't see his aerial in any of the games other than smash due to hitstun. <.<

But yeah, I'd love it because I'd feel like I'm playing Arcana Heart (kinda, everyone has a homing in that game and you can use it to cancel moves and cancel it into moves. Ballin relatively unknown fighter on the PS2 full of Loli's. :3 ).

Just throwin that out there. lol



Oh, btw, what are y'all's plans for DDD and Wario, if I may inquire? :o

 

[ipitydatfu]

o_O you're up late.

watched all of MBAA on the evo stream. fun stuff, i dont understand the hate for it.

 

[JCaesar]

Yeah, it's like GG and Blazblue and a lot of other fighters with air dashes lol. I really like the multi dash. OH, speaking of, JCaes, I have an idea to change Sonic's homing attack into something more useful. Let him cancel it with an aerial. That is, if y'all aren't done with him yet. I think y'all already finished it. lol

It makes sense cause sonic using the homing attack to attack people, but like, he moves so fast you just can't see his aerial in any of the games other than smash due to hitstun. <.<

But yeah, I'd love it because I'd feel like I'm playing Arcana Heart (kinda, everyone has a homing in that game and you can use it to cancel moves and cancel it into moves. Ballin relatively unknown fighter on the PS2 full of Loli's. :3 ).

Just throwin that out there. lol



Oh, btw, what are y'all's plans for DDD and Wario, if I may inquire? :o

Sonic can cancel his HA into an aerial on hit confirm I believe. His HA is a lot better now. Less startup + tracks a lot better. It's actually an amazing gimp move because offstage they usually can't avoid it.

DDD, I have no idea. But Wario is now much more canon to Wario Land. He's awesome. I'll see if I can dig up a video for ya.

 

[rPSIvysaur]

I <3 the new Wario.

 

[Sudai]

o_O you're up late..

You don't want to know

Sonic can cancel his HA into an aerial on hit confirm I believe. His HA is a lot better now. Less startup + tracks a lot better. It's actually an amazing gimp move because offstage they usually can't avoid it.

DDD, I have no idea. But Wario is now much more canon to Wario Land. He's awesome. I'll see if I can dig up a video for ya.

Woo. Sounds cool on Sonic. Can't wait for the Wario vid, and I hope you guys can make DDD fit without a lot of reworking. lol

 

[shanus]

You don't want to know


Woo. Sounds cool on Sonic. Can't wait for the Wario vid, and I hope you guys can make DDD fit without a lot of reworking. lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMugRfi4mG4

enjoy

 

[Sudai]

I didn't see the new homing attack implemented at all in that vid, Shanus, lol. Saw him use it once and it missed.