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close and unstick please
- Thread starter Veril
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HiddenBowser
Smash Master
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HiddenBowser
Smash Master
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This should have been handled in PM's or wall posts and def not in Veril's thread...
I don't own a wii.
I don't own a wii.
Veril
Frame Savant
I don't play wifi. Lag is bs and I hate it.
PND
Smash Champion
Guys, check the matchmaking thread for friend code info.
Wow. This thread is great. I started trying to incorporate rest and besides a few little mess ups, they've been helpful as hell.
'cept when I prematurely rested Captain Falcon while he was jabbing...that Falcon Punch to the face was bittersweet.
'cept when I prematurely rested Captain Falcon while he was jabbing...that Falcon Punch to the face was bittersweet.
Veril
Frame Savant
I'm glad its helped you. Be careful with CF, unless you get the chance to rest the Punch. Sublime.
illinialex24
Smash Hero
Epic. I countered Falcon Punch as Marth offstage for a backwards kill. I'm thinking of finding a way to frame the video.
Veril
Frame Savant
I've got a clip from testing of perfect resting a falcon punch. I'm gonna upload that for you.
AWESOME
By some freak accident I rested a DEDEDE as he was crushing me with his UpB, SO EPIC I tried to set it up again but no dice, just got pwned.
still cool though
Veril
Frame Savant
Yeah, that's a "brute force" perfect rest, and a tough one at that. I've done it in training when he was going down and in friendlies when he was going up.
Unfortunately I do not have a clip of it yet. I'll probably get that one done sometime tomorrow.
DarkDeadlyCages
Smash Rookie
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I feel special now because I know Veril!
Veril
Frame Savant
Tell them nothing lol
Metatitan
Smash Master
I have a really good question: can you perfect rest gay men watch's turtle o_O and his other arials may be nice if they were restable
illinialex24
Smash Hero
You can interrupt it if he DI's toward you or neutral DI's it. Both can happen commonly (not that much but it isnt rare) so...
da K.I.D.
Smash Hero
so im NOT the only one.
But take from them,
EVERYTHING!
p.s. ducking an attack to rest is too much ****
rinoH
Smash Lord
liked the new vids even though some were off i especially liked the diddy ones nice job veril
EWING
Smash Apprentice
when you list the moves that you can sdi out of then rest, are those perfect combos (cant be even perfect shielded)?
im just wondering cause it seemed like some moves that you DId out of in the vid could be shielded (like ganons or robs dsmash) though i might just be underestimating their ending lag
im just wondering cause it seemed like some moves that you DId out of in the vid could be shielded (like ganons or robs dsmash) though i might just be underestimating their ending lag
Please explain the button sequencing for god DI.
Also in theory, couldn't god DI completely remove anyway for jiggs to be killed vertically.
The only reason it wouldn't prevent kills altogether is becasue she would fly to the other side of the stage, still getting KO'd.
Obviously I no nothing about God DI, so could you please explain it further.
Also if used well god DI > sing >rest?
seems plausible.
Also in theory, couldn't god DI completely remove anyway for jiggs to be killed vertically.
The only reason it wouldn't prevent kills altogether is becasue she would fly to the other side of the stage, still getting KO'd.
Obviously I no nothing about God DI, so could you please explain it further.
Also if used well god DI > sing >rest?
seems plausible.
Well, I don't know about the application, but it's diagonal (downwards works too) Advanced DI toward the ground. In the video it's to the right and downwards.
Apparently, it only works if you can hit the ground fast enough. Yay hitstun....
M-WUZ-H3R3
Smash Lord
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Part 2 ***** through the *** and out the mouth. Good job! Falcon pawnch has met it's match!!???
Veril
Frame Savant
Rob's D-smash is not a combo UNLESS you drill rest, which can be. I should have put that in. Next vid, promise
If I hadn't done the Gannon d-smash thing with one hand it would have been.
Everything else was a perfect combo.
God DI could in theory work vs. any move that had a ~90° knockback trajectory and enough hitlag to make this humanly possible. With Lucas' up-smash you have to input ADI 2x, once for both hitboxes. It might work only because the first hitbox pops you up slightly, since you obviously can't just ADI into the ground on all hits.
That's why I called it GDI, because its so absurd. I don't know about the % it will work at for vertical knockback moves. Honestly, I need to put a lot more work into it before I can give you the detailed answer I want here. It might work vs. the first hit of snakes up-smash (not the mortar).
It also works on any move with set knockback, notable examples being the first hit dK's f-smash, Snake's F-tilt (grounded only), and others.
Inverting horizontal momentum is possible with all moves (I think) with ADI. That isn't GDI since it uh, doesn't save you in an epic way (see the first hit of Link's F-smash).
Metatitan
Smash Master
Do we have any leads on that momentumless pound?
Veril
Frame Savant
Read that thread. The sad disappointing conclusion is sad and disappointing and redundant.
Metatitan
Smash Master
I can't find it can i have a link?
Veril
Frame Savant
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=212300&highlight=pound
Don't bump it... its old and it makes me sad.
Metatitan
Smash Master
I don't see any conclusion to it... just a bunch of people asking how to DACUS and then you asplode from hearing it too much
Veril
Frame Savant
My bad, it actually was in the testing grounds thread. Here's the relevant stuff.
Way to crush my dreams, jerk.
I'm gonna cry myself to sleep tonight
Metatitan
Smash Master
i wanted to mindgaymes with that pound
Veril
Frame Savant
there's always b-reversed or wavebounced pounds
I'm gonna have to discuss wavebouncing and b-reversing at some point... as a former Lucas main.
Metatitan
Smash Master
I know wavebouncing but i don't feel like we really need it with pound that much
Tarmogoyf
Smash Master
Breverse pounding is very impractical. You pretty much can't time it right without adjusting your hold on the controller.there's always b-reversed or wavebounced pounds
I'm gonna have to discuss wavebouncing and b-reversing at some point... as a former Lucas main.
Veril
Frame Savant
Again, I used to play Lucas. I can b-reverse and wavebounce easily. Trust me. You don't have to change your hold on the controller.
B-reversing is way easy.
Tarmogoyf
Smash Master
I've never had a problem in general. I just can't get the hold of Breversing pound. I always screw it up.
Is there a trick to Breverse sideBs easily?
rinoH
Smash Lord
use the cstick for it or do it really fast and dont do it at an angle
Veril
Frame Savant
don't use the c-stick. All you need are fast fingers and a little practice. Its much easier to b-reverse than wavebounce, and both are very possible.
If you can't b-reverse rollout... you make me sad.
Tarmogoyf
Smash Master
No, I only have a problem with sideBs, not neutralBs. Rollout isn't a problem.
Veril
Frame Savant
OK, enough b-reverse talk. I'll make a thread about it at some point or add onto this one.
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