Do NOT upgrade your Wii to 4.2 through Nintendo -- Safe Update!

[illinialex24]

Use the NUS Downloader and get the database title, you can download NUS DOwnloader from here:

http://wiibrew.org/wiki/NUS_Downloader

 

[Revven]

Well, what interests me is the spawn glitch in The Conduit getting fixed. I need that IOS, so if there's a .WAD for it, send it my way. (Although, I haven't even updated and the spawn glitch hasn't appeared for me as much as it used to, I've only gotten it twice this past week which is a new record, it makes me think that they really DIDN'T fix it and it's just a coincidence).

 

[illinialex24]

Falco400, I can give you the IOS names you need to get the WAD from NUS Downloader. Just choose the pack wad feature and install it using Waninkoko's __________ (so I don't get infracted) and then your good.

Or use Dop IOS v8 with network stuff.

The new IOS's are IOS56, 57, 61, 38 and 70.

So patch all, I think its 57 since 56 is for Wii Speak, 38 is for animal crossing (although 38 could definitely be true, since both have Wii Speak capability) and 57 is generally for shooter games. Its not 70 or 61.

 

[Alphatron]

I guess I'll just run games through Gecko OS if I actually purchase anything else for the wii. Don't want to risk bricking just so I can buy games for the VC, just because I felt bad for using emus. Not like Earthbound is on the Virtual console anyway.

 

[illinialex24]

There will likely be a nand patch for no update very soon, don't worry.

 

[comboking]

I don't believe IOS70 is needed.

 

[illinialex24]

It is needed for System Menu 4.2U, its good to have because if you update accidentally, you can still use channel wads which can definitely help.

 

[SonicChrono]

It is needed for System Menu 4.2U, its good to have because if you update accidentally, you can still use channel wads which can definitely help.

Are you sure that the channel wads work after I updated my Wii to 4.2U by mistake?

 

[illinialex24]

Only if you have IOS70 trucha bugged. If not, make sure you have a trucha bugged IOS249 and then get IOS70 trucha bugged. Then yes they will work.

 

[SmashChu]

Question: Can the Wii get the update all on it's own?

 

[illinialex24]

It shouldn't.

 

[comboking]

Nintendo can't update things without us saying yes I believe.

 

[Eternal Yoshi]

If you read the updated TOS in the 3.4 update, they can. It's only a matter of time until they use that right. You should turn WiiConnect24 off. That Yellow light might betray you.

I hope Obama's Wii suvives this because if not, well......

 

[illinialex24]

Oh hells yeah. That speech would be hilarious.

 

[cobaltblue]

Couldn't have said it better myself. =D




Once you agree to their Terms of Service, they have the right to brick your Wii if you don't abide by them. As such, what Nintendo is doing is obnoxious and controlling, but not illegal in the slightest.

And the misconception that not abiding by Terms of Service once you've agreed to them is illegal is incorrect. Homebrew itself isn't illegal, only the use of it to do pirate things.

I believe their was a case awhile back stating that the terms of service imposed by the gaming compines are not legally binding ones. I think this came up with something relating to blizzard and warcraft.

I do know however that Nintendo can not brick your system through terms of service due to the fact such contracts signed by minors are considered invalid in terms of the law. The most they could do would be to bar you from all online activities as that requires the use of their machines and programs to operate.

 

[Xyro77]

this nees to be put on the front page


http://kotaku.com/5372065/wii-update-42-is-killing-wiis-dead

 

[illinialex24]

Yeah it really does. I made another thread for a reason.

 

[metaXzero]

cobalt beat me to it.

You buy the Wii, so Nintendo intentionally rendering what is now your property inoperable is a liability risk for them. They can revoke your warranty for modding (they aren't going to take responsibility for you screwing up your Wii without you paying) and ban you from their online services for modding (you don't buy Nintendo's online services after all so not agreeing to their terms does give them the right to refuse servicing you). But if they essentially destroy your Wii, they risk a nasty lawsuit.

This maybe the reason Ninty hasn't done an auto-update yet...

 

[Isatis]

Marcan wrote up a long, lengthy article for Slashdot:

http://games.slashdot.org/story/09/...2-Tries-and-Fails-To-Block-Homebrew?art_pos=8

 

[Xyro77]

Its not illegal.

Updates work with perfectly pure wii's(or they SHOULD). If your wii bricks because it wasnt pure(because YOU made it unpure) then its your fault.

Its the same as nintendo saying, "we didnt make the wii water proof" and u take it swimming with you. YOU broke it(wether its direct or indirect).

 

[leafgreen386]

Its not illegal.

Updates work with perfectly pure wii's(or they SHOULD). If your wii bricks because it wasnt pure(because YOU made it unpure) then its your fault.

Its the same as nintendo saying, "we didnt make the wii water proof" and u take it swimming with you. YOU broke it(wether its direct or indirect).

Wrong. Because of the faulty code used for updating boot2, even virgin wiis are getting bricked as a result of this update.

http://techforums.nintendo.com/nins/board?board.id=wii_tech

 

[metaXzero]

Its not illegal.

Updates work with perfectly pure wii's(or they SHOULD). If your wii bricks because it wasnt pure(because YOU made it unpure) then its your fault.

Its the same as nintendo saying, "we didnt make the wii water proof" and u take it swimming with you. YOU broke it(wether its direct or indirect).

See, this works fine when you can refuse updates like you can currently. When an update comes, you get a message from Ninty telling you about it and asking do you want to. They even have the decency to tell you a little about the risks if you have "unauthorized modifications". But it may get muddled if they act on the added part of the 3.4 ToS.

They might be able to defend themselves by saying somewhere before an auto-update that you can refuse them by turning off Wiiconnect24... I think...

or maybe not? IDK

 

[Xyro77]

Wrong. Because of the faulty code used for updating boot2, even virgin wiis are getting bricked as a result of this update.

http://techforums.nintendo.com/nins/board?board.id=wii_tech

for pure wii's there is a fix. i posted the link before you. thats not what im arguing.
if we wanted to, we could argue the very same thing with the opening batch of 360s.

See, this works fine when you can refuse updates like you can currently. When an update comes, you get a message from Ninty telling you about it and asking do you want to. They even have the decency to tell you a little about the risks if you have "unauthorized modifications". But it may get muddled if they act on the added part of the 3.4 ToS.

They might be able to defend themselves by saying somewhere before an auto-update that you can refuse them by turning off Wiiconnect24... I think...

or maybe not? IDK

you are 100% correct.

 

[illinialex24]

for pure wii's there is a fix. i posted the link before you. thats not what im arguing.
if we wanted to, we could argue the very same thing with the opening batch of 360s..

Yes, sending it into Nintendo and getting a brand new Wii.

Savemiifrii, Savemii, bootmii, none of these will save your Wii if it has been bricked. There is nothing they can do to fix it unless you go to Nintendo.

 

[leafgreen386]

for pure wii's there is a fix. i posted the link before you. thats not what im arguing.
if we wanted to, we could argue the very same thing with the opening batch of 360s.

Excuse me? You just stated that bricking your wii = your fault, even when it's nintendo's update that causes the brick. You can be using your wii exactly as you are supposed to (note that "using your wii as you're supposed to" includes performing regular updates when prompted), and even if you don't do anything wrong at all except agree to an update that is provided by nintendo, you can still get a brick by updating. There is no way that you can argue this is operator error. The error is in the code used by nintendo. Furthermore, there shouldn't even be a need for a "fix" in the first place if you did everything right. The only people who should have to "fix" anything are those who screwed up.

 

[illinialex24]

Exactly. I fully agree Leafgreen.

Oh and in spreading the word, I have been banned 4 times on the tech support forums. Going for 10, wish me luck.

 

[phi1ny3]

^lulz.
Thanks for this, I was going to install homebrew recently and I had Wiiupdate turned off anyways, but still, this is a good reason to keep it off. ^_^

 

[Serris]

I updated my Wii for the lulz, and nothing was deleted. Homebrew Channel and WAD Manager were still intact and functional. I ran the 1.0.5 installer after checking everything to see if it worked just to be on the safe side. This update did literally nothing to remove any of my unauthorized software. It's like I was spinning a roulette wheel just to see if my Wii would brick or not. If I won, I got a 4.2U in my Wii settings. If I lost, whoops.

 

[spiderjjr45]

WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO MY BRAWL!?!

Whenever I try to apply the file replacement code, my brawl loads with a black screen. ALWAYS.
This only happened after I used Wanikoko's 4.2 upgrader. Can someone help me? I'm desperate!

 

[kupo15]

I'm surprised this news isn't on IGN yet

EDIT: Checked ign and nevermind..lol

 

[Lord Viper]

I updated my Wii for the lulz, and nothing was deleted. Homebrew Channel and WAD Manager were still intact and functional. I ran the 1.0.5 installer after checking everything to see if it worked just to be on the safe side. This update did literally nothing to remove any of my unauthorized software. It's like I was spinning a roulette wheel just to see if my Wii would brick or not. If I won, I got a 4.2U in my Wii settings. If I lost, whoops.

☆ Mines as well, though my Geko OS 1.9.2 didn't work for a moment, but not too long. I updated HBC before the Wii update however. ☆

☆ Edited: Also epic font color. =3 ☆

 

[Isatis]

Get Gecko OS 1.9.1.

 

[sasook]

I updated my Wii for the lulz, and nothing was deleted. Homebrew Channel and WAD Manager were still intact and functional. I ran the 1.0.5 installer after checking everything to see if it worked just to be on the safe side. This update did literally nothing to remove any of my unauthorized software. It's like I was spinning a roulette wheel just to see if my Wii would brick or not. If I won, I got a 4.2U in my Wii settings. If I lost, whoops.

Does this mean it's okay to update then? o.o

I know the OP says not to but, I'm just curious.

 

[SonicChrono]

^lulz.
Thanks for this, I was going to install homebrew recently and I had Wiiupdate turned off anyways, but still, this is a good reason to keep it off. ^_^

I was able to reinstall HBC after the 4.2 System Update was installed by mistake with the StackSmash Exploit. And now I can play Brawl+ again. Added most of MASTERLINX's custom songs onto my SD Card, enjoying "Running In The 90s" on the Pictochat Stage.

Good thing I turned off WiiConnect24. Never running into future updates anymore.

^_^

 

[Dekaisen]

so glad to see someone else has Warned about this already, sure hope alot of people are safe

 

[Isatis]

Does this mean it's okay to update then? o.o

I know the OP says not to but, I'm just curious.

Not unless you want to do Waninkoko's Firmware Updater 4.2, but even then its made of fail, I see no point in updating at all unless you want the Shop Channel back

 

[Beam Sword of Death]

I got the update(before seeing this unfortunately) but I've never hacked my wii in any way, shape or form.
Am I in the clear? or could my wii still get bricked anyway?

 

[Cold Fusion]

I got the update(before seeing this unfortunately) but I've never hacked my wii in any way, shape or form.
Am I in the clear? or could my wii still get bricked anyway?

As far as I know, your Wii will only get cinder blocked Bricked during the download, not after.

 

[Grey Belnades]

I got the update(before seeing this unfortunately) but I've never hacked my wii in any way, shape or form.
Am I in the clear? or could my wii still get bricked anyway?

If you never hacked your Wii as you said, it shouldn't harm it but there have been reports of Wii's bricking during halfway to the update.

 

[Endless Nightmares]

I updated my Wii for the lulz, and nothing was deleted. Homebrew Channel and WAD Manager were still intact and functional. I ran the 1.0.5 installer after checking everything to see if it worked just to be on the safe side. This update did literally nothing to remove any of my unauthorized software. It's like I was spinning a roulette wheel just to see if my Wii would brick or not. If I won, I got a 4.2U in my Wii settings. If I lost, whoops.

I hope you didn't do that manually