Q&A Doc General Discussion: Ask and ye shall receive ft. otg and Shroomed!

[Kazz@]

But then there is always da Bobmoney. :D

 

[Dogysamich]

you've got

throw->f.air
u.air->d.smash (FFers)
u.air->f.air (majority of the cast
u.air->f.smash (heavy weights)

or you can just start doing dumb stuff like the Kage-Kaze >.>

 

[elvenarrow3000]

From what I've seen the cape doesn't reset people... it just spins them around on the ground. I could be wrong.

Also, yeah, the cape does do some weird thing sometimes. I know it knocks people into the air with a ton of hitstun on grabs and the middle/end of spacie side Bs, at least, not sure what else.

 

[St. Viers]

It causes people to change sides of the stage when you cap a get-up attack, sometimes, and it makes people jump mad high when you cape them while jumping.

So yeah, I'm not sure whether it resets people when they're on the ground. that would be cool-> they take 12% instead of 3% and are forced to get up.

Also, I'm shocked you didn't know the peach thing....thought it was common knowledge.

 

[Dogysamich]

Yeah, cape doesnt jab reset.

That woulda been hot.

__

Now im on a mission to figure out when the **** I can tech wreck people.

Cause I see something dumb like teck wreck -> jab reset coming. >.>

__

 

[HiIH]

You never tried the tech wreck when I was there, or else I didn't see it. <.<;

 

[Dogysamich]

i did it a few times in teams. But na, i messed around with it more when I was playin jeff after everybody left.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

what is it...?

 

[Dogysamich]

****, i figured out how to win all these ****ty matchups
Like this

Already feel my mental capacity and my tech skill increasing, and im only halfway through. Gunna hit the rest of it 2morrow.

 

[MikeHaggarTHAKJB]

Guys what are the finger movements for up-b canceling
I forgot

 

[Tyser]

UpB in one direction then hit the other direction a frame afterwards. Something like that.

 

[ranmaru]

****, I Figured Out How To Win All These ****ty Matchups
like This

Already Feel My Mental Capacity And My Tech Skill Increasing, And Im Only Halfway Through. Gunna Hit The Rest Of It 2morrow.

Holy **** The Force Is Strong Within This One!!!

 

[Gea]

Hai guyz

10hais

 

[St. Viers]

hi gea, how goes it?

 

[Gea]

Eh. Alright. Really sick right now, but I'm getting better. How're you guys?

 

[St. Viers]

just take some megavitamins, gea. I'm good, can't speak for the others

 

[elvenarrow3000]

I think you're supposed to Super Jump Punch to one direction then slam to the other side before frame four.

 

[MikeHaggarTHAKJB]

so you're suppose to push like up-right b and then down-left really fast?

 

[elvenarrow3000]

Just up and to the right then up-left, I think.

 

[St. Viers]

Naw, it has to be the opposite direction, so up and to the right would be down and to the left. Going to the left and up would result in just a turned around upB, I think.

 

[The Alpha Gundam]

Yeah, up b cancel = up+a direction on frame 3, then down+the opposite direction on frame 4.

edit: This is dogy btw, completely forgot im over here at alpha's house, lol.

 

[MikeHaggarTHAKJB]

Ok cool thanks =D
*starts practicing*
lol im learning loads of semi-useless tech tricks just to improve my overall speed

edit: waaiit a minute... does that mean if you would press up-b+a direction on frame 1 and then push down+opposite direction on frame 3 you'd fail at the up-b cancel? You need to actually hold up+a direction for exactly 3 frames and then press down+oppsite direction in 1 frame, and on the exact right frame? holy ****

 

[otg]

I think Dogy meant Up B, not Up A.... A has nothing to do with the "UP B CANCEL". Also, lol at how even under Alpha's name, Dogy has his font and color.

 

[MikeHaggarTHAKJB]

I know he meant B, I wrote up-b+a direction... meaning up-b plus a direction on the control stick (up left or up-right)

 

[St. Viers]

lol, didn't even look at the name dogy was under--his text just led me to believe it was him >_>

 

[Gea]

lol, didn't even look at the name dogy was under--his text just led me to believe it was him >_>

Me too. He always uses that font.

 

[Dogysamich]

yeah, i meant up+b/down+b, sorry.

And yeah, that was me. I ****ing mindgamed myself when I hit submit and I saw ZSS smiling at me instead of Sonja mean-muggin. I was kinda confused.

But yeah, I got to play a crapton of melee yesterday and wednesday. Oohhwwee.

 

[eighteenspikes]

it doesn't have to be the opposite direction, I do all my upb cancels by going straight up to down-right, no matter which way I'm facing

 

[Dogysamich]

Really now?

*scratches his chin*

 

[FYASKO]

so dogy,
what is this tech wreck thing?
maybe if you share your info we can maybe help find out how/when to use it well o.o

i've been in hiding.

/desh

 

[Dogysamich]

oh i thought i mentioned it already. Infact I know i did, but its just hard to find places to use it.

Basically, all you do is right when somebody is going to tech near you, you cape them so that it makes them hesistate in the air for a second, completely jacking up the timing of their tech. If you do the cape early enough, you're guarenteed a jab reset from it.

The problem is coming up with situations where somebody HAS to tech in front of you. The only people it really works on is FFers. I think i might have a way to use it on everybody except floaties, i just have to go back to messing with it some more.

 

[elvenarrow3000]

You could do it during like... a chain grab or something... but it wouldn't work at that high of a percentage 'cause after a while the jab would pop them up into the air.

 

[Dogysamich]

from every time i've tried it in a chaingrab, you actually dont have enough time.

Not unless you're chaingrabbing somebody into stupid %s (%s where they actually cant be chaingrabbed but they're just too dumb to jump out)

 

[elvenarrow3000]

Oh, hm.

Do you know how long the cape actually stuns them?

 

[KirbyKaze]

How do I d-throw Fair it seems hard I can't do it.

 

[otg]

Practice. It depends on who you are fighting and at what percents. Characters like Ganon, Pika, Sheik (around that weight range), only require a SH Fair from the Dthrow, while semi-floaties/floaties and FFer's require a Full Jump from your U/Dthrow.

 

[KirbyKaze]

okay thanks otg it's still really hard but i'll practice it and become good at it.

 

[Gea]

Seems like if you have time to cape, you have time to grab...

 

[Dogysamich]

not if - oh say - somebody's landing on a platform above you. Or they're landing outside of your grab range. Cause lets be real.

Edit: Oh sh* im back from my reformat.

 

[Gea]

Yeah, I guess you're right. I guess.