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[Gamma Ridley]

Ok, seriously, does anyone know how to use Fortwaffle's bone hierarchy changer thang?
The EyeYellow glitch is the only thing holding me back right now, and it's such an easy fix...

~~~EDIT~~~
Whoops, scratch that, I'm just being a dunce and forgetting to rename the model.... "model."

Progress shall be made.

 

[Eternal Yoshi]

Don't mess with the bone Hiearchy.

Just look at Snoopy's guide.

 

[Gamma Ridley]

Don't mess with the bone Hiearchy.

Just look at Snoopy's guide.

Yeah, I'm looking at that, the bone hierarchy thing refuses to change the index.

I'm also trying a few different things, like putting him over Wario instead. But he's still invisible.

I can probably do this in hex, the offset is like 120C (?), I just hate looking at hex...

I'm disappointed in myself, it's such a simple fix...

AND I'm getting the movement glitch over Ganon.

 

[TCRhade]

The problems that need to be fixed are:
-Body disappearing because of EyeYellowM
-TransN
-Shield (he gets a HUGE left arm that shrinks with the shield

All the rest is fine now, except for the Side B and weird Walk glitch.

Think you can help out with Tabuu too?

 

[Gamma Ridley]

The problems that need to be fixed are:
-Body disappearing because of EyeYellowM
-TransN
-Shield (he gets a HUGE left arm that shrinks with the shield

All the rest is fine now, except for the Side B and weird Walk glitch.

Think you can help out with Tabuu too?

I could probably help out with... animations, I guess, if you want. Goroh's at a slight stand-still right now.

 

[TCRhade]

I could probably help out with... animations, I guess, if you want. Goroh's at a slight stand-still right now.

That's fine, maybe the Walk freeze is due to his animations. Did you download my playtest files?

 

[Eternal Yoshi]

Sigh....

Read this before you do anything else:

http://forums.kc-mm.com/index.php?topic=9248.0

 

[Gamma Ridley]

Hrm, I'm not any good at all. But hey, Snoopy's guide is rather in-depth and a good starting point. That's what I'm using.

Perhaps I should have put more emphasis on the work/link "GUIDE." I'm just trying to teach myself, that's all, and I am using this guide.


And @TCRhade Yeah I downloaded the files, haven't tested 'em though.

 

[kangaroogreen]

You can? Can I PM you the files?

I'd appreciate it greatly. ^^

Sooooo... how many of you have tried Tabuu? Tell me about your experience with the Subspace King himself. ^^

Sure, go ahead.
And not to be too self-praising, but I've been around the Tabuu quite a few times.

Bone fixing really isn't too hard when you get used to it.

 

[TCRhade]

Okay, hold up.

Read the post above with the problems I have, ok?

Thank you so much. :3

 

[Gamma Ridley]

Sure, go ahead.
And not to be too self-praising, but I've been around the Tabuu quite a few times.

Bone fixing really isn't too hard when you get used to it.

*sigh* I hate to give up so easily, but now I have a headache, so I'll just ask anyway: would you be willing to help me fix the EyeYellow thing? I'd rather it just be done and over with.

I hate to bother.

 

[xxTerminatorxx]

Ok, so. I haven't tested your Tabuu yet, but don't you think you need to add new bones using Fortwaffle's Dummy Bone adder? Tabuu MAY have less bones than Ganon defaultly, and that could be an issue.

Have you ever came to the conclusion adding Tabuu over Ganon may be too hard? Why not him go over Olimar, or a character people are willing to give up?

 

[TCRhade]

No, Tabuu has over 600 bones.

And because I don't want to deal with the Pikmin. And Gdorf is a character I rarely use anyway.

 

[Eternal Yoshi]

Ganon is so terribad and horrawfible in this game anyway.

Anyway, you may get pics on what I've been doing so far.

 

[TCRhade]

He is. He was way better in the M. In Brawl he's too slow to do anything.

Ooh, color me interested, Yoshi. :]

 

[Gamma Ridley]

He is. He was way better in the M. In Brawl he's too slow to do anything.

Ooh, color me interested, Yoshi. :]

I don't think Ganon's TOO horrible, to be honest. Not the best, but hey.

Also, hex gives me seizures.

 

[Eternal Yoshi]

OK.

I got Tabuu 4 extra colors, one more needs to be done and I Fixed the Visibility and TransN bugs.

His run works perfectly, but I need to investigat the .pac moar to see why walking still silent freezes when crouching, jumping, and running work fine.

When I Fix walking, I will post Pics.

WalkMiddle has only 1 frame.
This needs more frames.

 

[kangaroogreen]

I just PM'd TRCShade all the Fixed Tabuu files.

Wasn't so hard.

 

[TCRhade]

I just PM'd TRCShade all the Fixed Tabuu files.

Wasn't so hard.

That's wonderful. Thank you so much. :3

Now I need to find a way to move his shield upward and fix my animations. I still think it's because I didn't move TransN and it's bugging me.

 

[Eternal Yoshi]

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The shield location is controlled by ThrowN.
Just move the ThrowN bone up.

You can make it bigger by increasing the shield size through PSA in the Attributes section.

The freezing from waling is because the WalkMiddle animation only has 1 frame.
Not sure about ForwardB Though.

 

[TCRhade]

What's with all the dots?

And with these new files, the DThrow freezes the game. Idk, I'm confused.

1 frame? I thought I had more. Bizarre. I'll check.

 

[xxTerminatorxx]

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The shield location is controlled by ThrowN.
Just move the ThrowN bone up.

You can make it bigger by increasing the shield size through PSA in the Attributes section.

The freezing from waling is because the WalkMiddle animation only has 1 frame.
Not sure about ForwardB Though.

Nice recolors. Once most of the freezes are fixed and moves are added I'll be happy to try this out.

 

[Gamma Ridley]

... For some reason, it doesn't save the new Bone Index when I change it.

FUUUUU-

 

[xxTerminatorxx]

... For some reason, it doesn't save the new Bone Index when I change it.

FUUUUU-

Yep, I got that when trying to edit polygons and bones on models. Not sure what to do eiether. Probably a glitch with BrawlBox.

 

[TCRhade]

Help please.

I've tried everything to replace the CSPs and CSS stuff. And it won't appear. I edited common5_en.pac, and nothing.

 

[xxTerminatorxx]

Help please.

I've tried everything to replace the CSPs and CSS stuff. And it won't appear. I edited common5_en.pac, and nothing.

Delete the _en out of it. Plus, it's not Common5 you edit anyways, it's sc_selcharacter.pac

sc_selcharacter overwrites common5.

 

[Eternal Yoshi]

???? common5 has a copy of sc_selcharacter so why not put them in both?

 

[xxTerminatorxx]

I edited common5 and it did nothing. Not sure why. Deleted the _en and put it in the right section.

I just edit sc_selcharacter for my MGS:TTS Snake CSPs, and Yoshi's Gray Fox project.

 

[Eternal Yoshi]

menu\common\char_bust_tex\MenSelchrFaceXXXX.brres

Another directory that needs to be checked for CSP changes to go through.

MenSelchrFaceB210 Is MK's CSP files for example.

 

[xxTerminatorxx]

What are Ganon's CSP files known as Yoshi? I might try making some Battle portraits myself.

 

[Eternal Yoshi]

IDK maybe something like

MenSelchrFaceB200 - MenSelchrFaceB206

or MenSelchrFaceB190 - MenSelchrFaceB196.

Should be one or 2 spaces above Meta Knight.

 

[Snoopy]

dang, i don't check here for almost an entire day and all this happens? oh well.

Gamma, all you need to do to fix Goroh's model disappearance is to hex his BodyM bone index to something else. open Goroh's model in a hex editor and go to Offset 1218 (it should be a 2) and change it (to 3). don't mess with the hierarchy changer, even if you get it right and the way you want, once you insert it back into the .pac/.pcs file, it will revert to the way it was. i probably should take that out of my guide.

TCR, did the FitGanon.pac i sent you not fix everything? or have you gotten one that works?

and has been mentioned, make sure that animations have at least 2 frames each. this note goes for anyone making animations. usually it's best to match how many frames an animation has to the one it's replacing (well, it at least cuts down on a lot of problems that can happen).

and Tabuu (the character) only has 143 bones total. not even the great Tabuu can top how many bones ROB has (ROB has 162).

 

[TCRhade]

dang, i don't check here for almost an entire day and all this happens? oh well.

Gamma, all you need to do to fix Goroh's model disappearance is to hex his BodyM bone index to something else. open Goroh's model in a hex editor and go to Offset 1218 (it should be a 2) and change it (to 3). don't mess with the hierarchy changer, even if you get it right and the way you want, once you insert it back into the .pac/.pcs file, it will revert to the way it was. i probably should take that out of my guide.

TCR, did the FitGanon.pac i sent you not fix everything? or have you gotten one that works?

and has been mentioned, make sure that animations have at least 2 frames each. this note goes for anyone making animations. usually it's best to match how many frames an animation has to the one it's replacing (well, it at least cuts down on a lot of problems that can happen).

and Tabuu (the character) only has 143 bones total. not even the great Tabuu can top how many bones ROB has (ROB has 162).

No it didn't, but thank you anyway. I won't forget that you tried to help so you'll still be credited. But kangaroogreen sent me versions that fixed the TransN and EyeYellowM glitches. Now the DThrow has a problem.

Strange, when I checked Tabuu's NumNodes, it said something like 667.

And yes, Ganondorf's select pics are located in MenSelchrFaceB191 - MenSelchrFaceB196.

 

[kangaroogreen]

No it didn't, but thank you anyway. I won't forget that you tried to help so you'll still be credited. But kangaroogreen sent me versions that fixed the TransN and EyeYellowM glitches. Now the DThrow has a problem.

Strange, when I checked Tabuu's NumNodes, it said something like 667.

And yes, Ganondorf's select pics are located in MenSelchrFaceB191 - MenSelchrFaceB196.

Bone ID is what you are looking for for the bone count, just go to the bone that's farthest down.

And does the DThrow have one of tabuu's animations? Because they seem to be what's caused the freezing, except for his wait1.

 

[TCRhade]

Bone ID is what you are looking for for the bone count, just go to the bone that's farthest down.

And does the DThrow have one of tabuu's animations? Because they seem to be what's caused the freezing, except for his wait1.

No, the D-Throw is a custom animation. He shrinks and slams downward with his Cage.

And his Catch, NAir, FThrow, DSmash, Final and Win animations are all straight from Tabuu and each work perfectly.

 

[Eternal Yoshi]

Why not retool Forward B to be from Tabuu with the whip???

 

[TCRhade]

Why not retool Forward B to be from Tabuu with the whip???

I'm going to scrap it and make a custom animation. I want to use his Boomerang Throw for his Side B.

 

[kangaroogreen]

No, the D-Throw is a custom animation. He shrinks and slams downward with his Cage.

And his Catch, NAir, FThrow, DSmash, Final and Win animations are all straight from Tabuu and each work perfectly.

Might just be a PSA thing, I'll look into it when I have computer access.

 

[TCRhade]

It's not PSA. I'm animating now, so I didn't touch PSA yet.

 

[xxTerminatorxx]

You mind if I make CSPs, Battle Portraits, and whatnot for Tabuu?