Fthrow/Dthrow Chaingrab Thread

[Van Jones]

Are you sure you don't want to test someone else first

I need someone to test out Charzard and Sqirtle if anyone has time.

Uh, no. It needs to be tested on everyone, and I have already confirmed that it works on MK and Falco.

Play against a good Sheik and you will understand why it needs to be tested.

 

[Stealth Raptor]

stealth mains sheik <.< thats why he doesnt want it tested XD

 

[stealth3654]

Uh, no. It needs to be tested on everyone, and I have already confirmed that it works on MK and Falco.

Play against a good Sheik and you will understand why it needs to be tested.

I main Sheik, so I should know *shrugs*

Edit: lol, Stealth # 2 beat me to it XD. Or am I Stealth # 2?

 

[Ussi]

you're stealth # 2. He was here first.

I want this to work on Marth (but he's gay)

 

[Van Jones]

So, you know that it needs to be confirmed? Good.

Anyways, the Sheik one seems solid. I'll post if anything changes. Which character should I test next?

 

[stealth3654]

Charzard or squirtle if you don't mind

 

[Stealth Raptor]

yeah i am curious about pt and especially squirtle. could we also test ivy for the lulz? seems so odd that squirtle can be cg'd but not ivy.

 

[KayLo!]

how could you SDI every single frame?
is he doing it on homebrew hack or something?
if he is, i would like to know more about it.
if there is something like a debug mode, i'm pretty sure japanese would love it since they have no knowledge about hacks.

He's using the debug pause code. I'll PM you.

 

[Pikabunz]

I'm confirming that you don't need super sdi to escape the cg.

 

[J4pu]

so, is there more testing still going into this or are you guys just leaving it as is with the high tiers having been tested?
sorry I don't feel like reading through multiple pages to find out.

EDIT- lol after looking up about 5 posts I see testing is still occurring
keep up the good work, can't wait to see more.

 

[sMexy-Blu]

I hate brawl.

 

[Zajice]

I hate brawl.

I lol'd.

10lols

 

[Van Jones]

OK. Prime just informed me that Sheik can escape during the first three re grabs. Back to the drawing board.

 

[Ussi]

So, you know that it needs to be confirmed? Good.

Anyways, the Sheik one seems solid. I'll post if anything changes. Which character should I test next?

Ganon and Falcon are some prime suspects to test... lol..


EDIT: I hate footstooling... who the hell thought it was a good idea?

 

[Stealth Raptor]

I hate brawl.

then dont ever come back here. brawl will only get gayer. its a sad truth but its something that cant be avoided lawl.

 

[The Truth!]

Well itll be interesting to see if/how things change anyways.

 

[gallax]

i dnot think that we really have to worry much about CF and sheik right now. although, its pretty interesting to see pikas get caught up in the ftilt of sheik.

 

[Pikabunz]

Ok, forgot about what I said about sdi. All you have to do to escape it is buffer jump twice. For some reason this works. I didn't use any kind of di.

 

[Stealth Raptor]

buffer jump twice? wtf doing it twice should have no effect o.o

 

[Zylar]

What can we say, this is MK we are talking about.

Also, is this djbuffer escape possible at any %?

 

[Pikabunz]

buffer jump twice? wtf doing it twice should have no effect o.o

I think it works like this. First jump is the double jump and second jump is the footstool.

 

[Stealth Raptor]

the thing that bugs me is isnt buffering a once thing? like when you buffer something isnt only one thing kept in the buffering system? i suppose if it kept multiple attacks in its buffer it could work.

 

[KayLo!]

the thing that bugs me is isnt buffering a once thing? like when you buffer something isnt only one thing kept in the buffering system? i suppose if it kept multiple attacks in its buffer it could work.

That's how I thought it worked.... I thought you could only buffer one thing at a time. Maybe it works differently for jumps or something.....

 

[nothing.]

you can buffer multiple stuff
like you can buffer turning around and a grab, which is required for peach and wario for their chaingrabs.

im not sure about double jumping tho...
will need to see how that works.

 

[J4pu]

you can buffer multiple stuff
like you can buffer turning around and a grab, which is required for peach and wario for their chaingrabs.

im not sure about double jumping tho...
will need to see how that works.

yea, but they're talking about buffering 2 of the same thing in concession it's different than buffering say a dash attack which is both a dash and an attack.
Wait so spamming the jump button gets chars out of this?

 

[Stealth Raptor]

mmm to buffered running grabs make the edge cg possible? or does it even matter anymore lawl.

 

[The Truth!]

yea, but they're talking about buffering 2 of the same thing in concession it's different than buffering say a dash attack which is both a dash and an attack.
Wait so spamming the jump button gets chars out of this?

It gets shiek out after a couple grabs I think.

 

[wangston]

Can you change your trajectory a few throws?

 

[OverLade]

Falco Pikachu is GAYER than MK.

 

[Sei Shin Casios]

Falco Pikachu is GAYER than MK.

i lol'd..
thx esam for this vid, i think we still have a lot of testing to do.. (well.. you will have to, i cant -.- nobody to try with..)
about that jump buffer thing: no, just ignore it xD (so you just have to mash jump button to get out with snake and mk? suxxxxx)

 

[Zylar]

Well, we just need to find out at what percentages they can get out, and just pummel right before that to throw their timing off, that is if we know that they know how to escape.

 

[1nconspikuous]

wouldn't they just be mashing the jump button, if that is really how to escape?
(in other words, wouldn't timing be irrelevant?)

on a side note, though, i was practicing this with my cousin as MK mashing jump/DIing away, and i could get ~3 or 4 grabs in. seemed like he broke out because of my error though... how does the double-jump buffer escape work?

 

[Ussi]

Only before 10% you can jump out.

 

[1nconspikuous]

Ok, forgot about what I said about sdi. All you have to do to escape it is buffer jump twice. For some reason this works. I didn't use any kind of di.

i was talking about this.

but yeah, we'd still have to start the CG it at the right time.

 

[Teran]

Lol, this is too amazing, Pikachu has officially been Sakuraified.

Sucks for me to be a Falco main now T__T.

Bah I'll get over it....

Spoiler

SAKURAIIIIIII!

 

[Sudai]

yea, but they're talking about buffering 2 of the same thing in concession it's different than buffering say a dash attack which is both a dash and an attack.
Wait so spamming the jump button gets chars out of this?

You can buffer multiple things using the same button input at once. Easy way to test this without hacks is to DTilt with MK then FTilt and mash A. You can make all 3 hits come out at nearly the same time if you're fast enough.

 

[Van Jones]

Prime, are you sure that Sheik can escape from the cg? I just tested the cg for about an hour (with Light) using DI, SDI and TDI. We tried it at different percents. He couldn't get out. Cg went to a max of 110% each time.

 

[Ussi]

did you try buffering a jump?

 

[Van Jones]

Yup. Testing everything.

 

[KayLo!]

Prime, are you sure that Sheik can escape from the cg? I just tested the cg for about an hour (with Light) using DI, SDI and TDI. We tried it at different percents. He couldn't get out. Cg went to a max of 110% each time.

did you try buffering a jump?

It's actually buffering two jumps, iirc. (Read the last page.)

Apparently that'll allow Sheik to footstool out.