Mangos Falco Advice

[x After Dawn x]

Raynex, were you being sarcastic? >_>

I'm not trying to approach anything pestimistically here, I was just being blunt saying that I'd prefer focusing on more essential aspects of my game instead of things that aren't particularly as effective or needed.

 

[Rannskita]

Raynex, were you being sarcastic? >_>

I'm not trying to approach anything pestimistically here, I was just being blunt saying that I'd prefer focusing on more essential aspects of my game instead of things that aren't particularly as effective or needed.

i doubt he was, practising unnescessary flashy tech skill is useless, like returning from the bottom of FoD with Falcon Fox Falco Mario Sheik etc, itll only be needed in a tourney maybe once in the history of smash.
same with repeated arial walljumps on yoshis, with falco you can just ledgehop bair anyway so its pointless, at least with falcon it lets you knee.

 

[RaynEX]

I was being completely serious. Thats an admirable mindset. Most people forget how important practicing the right things are. They get lost in the double shine/shine shdl/reverse shine platform waveland silliness.

 

[JPOBS]

reverse shine platform waveland is freakin sweet though.

 

[TheKneeOfJustice]

Mango,

I see a lot of Falco's super space bairs after their opponent has super spaced an aerial on them. Granted when done repeatedly it's really hard to punish, but I always wondered why really good and technical falco players don't shine turn jc out into better more traditional shield pressure after the first bair. If you ever connect with bair you don't really have a chance to follow up into much, where as going into a spaced pillar can allow you to potentially stab with a shine or something into a combo.

 

[choknater]

well maybe going for the spaced safe attack is better than forcing aggression into follow ups? unless u are talking about doing bair INTO shine turnaround pillars?

that seems tough to do :O

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

you only need to pillar if you are in front of them. if you get behind them, you want to hit their shield but have as little lag as possible to follow their escape/counter. bair beats almost every attack out of shield.

 

[x After Dawn x]

Basically what Sveet said. A well spaced bair can't be shieldgrabbed, and even if they wd out of shield into a grab, Falco should still be safe.

 

[Mogwai]

the real answer is that shine turning on grounded shines that hit something are really hard, whereas bairing is easy.

 

[PB&J]

mango should come to to5 next weekend..80 plus people and shiz is garunteed and jman,djn,ect

 

[Dr Peepee]

Yeah Mango should go.

 

[TheKneeOfJustice]

the real answer is that shine turning on grounded shines that hit something are really hard, whereas bairing is easy.

The scenario is they are facing you after a spaced aerial, so you aren't behind them. You space bair, shine (probably doesn't hit them if you super space bair anyways), shine turn, pillar normally. It just seems to allow for a better follow-up into a combo, although it is riskier and harder to do consistently.

 

[TresChikon]

Bair seems like it would avoid most OoS options while going for the pressure might get u trapped in some kind of pressure breaker

 

[Life After Death]

u better tell em wat u learned from me boiii

 

[Falcinho]

pewpew x1000 to fthrow kill?

 

[x After Dawn x]

no

pewpew x9001 to fthrow kill

 

[PB&J]

maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnggggggggggggooooooooooooooooooooooo

 

[soap]

is this thing worth reading through like shiz's thread was?

edit:

nvm first page was already pretty good

 

[TresChikon]

Not until Mango is back, for now we just scream at each other.

 

[LuCKy]

Alright im kinda back..

so tell me stuff

and i got u lol

-mango

 

[Linguini]

Mango is too good.

Can't wait to play you again bro.
Come to la florida for winterfest!

 

[LuCKy]

i was debating on if i should go or not

but in the end ill probably go with lucky

<3

-mango

 

[stabbedbyanipple]

Mango, how do you edgeguard peach when she is recovering low?

 

[LuCKy]

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

hang on 2 the edge and hope 2 bair lol


OR run off the stage and dair but land back on the stage that whole little thing

andddd

thats pretty much it for now lol

-mango

 

[stabbedbyanipple]

Everytime I go out for an aerial she Up B's and it ****s me up. X_x

 

[LuCKy]

u meant when shes like floating right below the edge?? if so

all u can really do at that point is hold the edge and dair off of it

 

[soap]

mango, what is your favorite band?

and what is your falco v. luigi strat? just the most important openings to look for.

 

[stabbedbyanipple]

Alright, thanx.

 

[LuCKy]

soap - System of a down son =D


anddd against luigi .. i hate that fuker

but what i do is alot of spaced bairs

Lasers are realllllly good

at higher percents alot of dairs ..

Dair dair dair tek chase dair .. all that lol

andddd uhhh i guess thats it for now

never really played ne luigis

but thats probably what i would do


if it all fails..

just camp

^_^

 

[PKSTkimo]

hey mango need help on mirror matches :/... and some tips against marth thx men..!

 

[soap]

soap - System of a down son =D


anddd against luigi .. i hate that fuker

but what i do is alot of spaced bairs

Lasers are realllllly good

at higher percents alot of dairs ..

Dair dair dair tek chase dair .. all that lol

andddd uhhh i guess thats it for now

never really played ne luigis

but thats probably what i would do


if it all fails..

just camp

^_^

i like bair i could do that.

when i used to watch mathos fight drews luigi, he would shoot lasers, when drew finally got to him, he would fsmash. it pushes luigi away and u shoot him more. eventually he would get hit by fsmash.

dope would do the dair dair dair

i was hoping for some tricky opening luigi players tend to have, but u havent played many so its cool ill work it out.

thats all for now, thanks

 

[LuCKy]

sorrrrrrrrrrrrrry =(


and u should change ur sig so that it has my name and not luckys lol

 

[Life After Death]

teach me the ways

 

[LuCKy]

i got u chops

 

[strawhats]

I wonder who has the better falco. You/ shiz

 

[blast_ssbb]

so like... how do i fight jiggs and marth?

my friend just like spaces aerials wit jiggs and like everytime he lands an u-air i get rested and die and he doesnt care if hes gonna die when i spawn cuz jiggs is gay and just gimps me wit her annoying edgeguard and like sumtimes i get around it but if he gets my phantasm or hits me too far that its obvious how im gonna recover im pretty much dead.

and his marth all it does is dash dance grab and wavedash out of shield wit f-smashes and then abuses me off stage >.>.

any tips on killing jiggs on like FD or pokemon? i double shine her alot on yoshis or bf and rest of the time i just like dair dair dair dair till i get him to tech into fsmash or dsmash...

and any tips on pressuring marth without getting gimped by chain grabs/wavedash outta shield fsmash?

idk its not like he ***** me we go pretty even but i was wondering if there was anything that u know that im missing :D

 

[Life After Death]

shiz mains falco so its easier to say shiz is. unless mango quit puff for real and goes all falco lol

 

[joeplicate]

florida: shiz

everybody else: mango

 

[trahhSTEEZY]

florida: shiz

everybody else: mango

that doesnt really say who's better, lol.

WHO IS?! CRAZYMOTHA****INTECHSKILLvsMADDDDDDDMINDGAMES/SPACING?

 

[AvengerAngel]

What's the best choice for shield pressure? Dair or Nair? IIRC Nair gives a little more stun (I'm not sure tho) but it pushes your opponent far away. Is it safe vs. Peach/Sheik/Marf/Fox?
And again what's the best choice to retreat after a shine? Dair or Nair? I mean the spaced aerial you do jumping back when you're just in front of your opponent's shield to bait a shield grab and punish with a smash/whatever. Is Dair better for spacing? :o