Charlesz
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Climbers are good I agree, but not even with jiggs.
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ChivalRuse
Smash Hero
ICs are evenish with Jiggs. 55-45 in Jiggs' favor imo.
Archangel
Smash Hero
lol! not even in brawl....well...
If it ain't Chu it's done!
Historically, it is an even matchup. However, I played Hbox a bunch recently and he shieldpoke rested me at least twice a match. With dumb rest techniques like that I have to believe it is a worse MU, but no Puff except Hbox tries it, so its still even vs every other Puff.
ChivalRuse
Smash Hero
L2lightshield, Peef. ^_^
Fly_Amanita
Master of Caribou
Maintaining a huge shield is essential to doing well against Puff with ICs.
ChivalRuse
Smash Hero
Just practice waveshielding into light shields for like 30 minutes, and you should have no more problems with that.
P. O. F.
Smash Ace
I think Ic's could go even with Jigs.
you guys remember ROM 1 Chu vs MaNg0? Epic.
you guys remember ROM 1 Chu vs MaNg0? Epic.
The Star King
Smash Hero
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Not to mention Pound 4 Chu vs Mango... the fact that Chu can come close to beating Mango's puff makes me inclined to believe that it's at least even.
Archangel
Smash Hero
1 Player isn't enough. At least that is what's always said. I mean I remember when Silentspectre Beat Mango's Puff and made him cop out but that doesn't mean Falcon is even with Jiggs because of that. Chu is the highest point of IC's and At that point IC's can pretty much be Even/Better then anyone the grab
. In fact the only reason why it's a struggle is because it's hard to grab puff.
. In fact the only reason why it's a struggle is because it's hard to grab puff.
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
I think your point would make more sense if Chu actually was the embodiment of efficient, dangerous Ice Climber grabs.1 Player isn't enough. At least that is what's always said. I mean I remember when Silentspectre Beat Mango's Puff and made him cop out but that doesn't mean Falcon is even with Jiggs because of that. Chu is the highest point of IC's and At that point IC's can pretty much be Even/Better then anyone the grab
Having said that, I agree that one player is not enough. It's kind of balls that there are only maybe five Ice Climber players that are actually worth anything though.
KAOSTAR
the Ascended One
I think they are hard to play. there are a few characters who only have a few players at top level play. ICs are the best of them imo.
sometimes you really have to "combine" players to make the meta. 1 is rarely enough.
sometimes you really have to "combine" players to make the meta. 1 is rarely enough.
Kyu Puff
Smash Champion
that was kinda mean...
I agree. =[[[
ChivalRuse
Smash Hero
Ice Climbers are the mean ones. They look all cute and innocent, then they smack you with their hammers.
Winston
Smash Master
I feel like pretty much every non top tier character has at most 5 "worthwhile" mains. Some have way fewer, like Samus.
ChivalRuse
Smash Hero
DK and Mario have almost no representation.
Aww man, all these middling IC's players coming out of the woodworks now
inb4sarcasmfail
KAOSTAR
the Ascended One
hugs ihsb phanna aftermath alukard dark mike dj nintendo rohins
2 no longer play. maybe ive overrated some of these players but they all seem legit samus wise. plus there are more players who are good, just not amazing or don't main samus.
ChivalRuse
Smash Hero
Don't forget Watty!!!!!
KAOSTAR
the Ascended One
I was gonna put him but I wasn't sure for sure lol.
ive never seen his samus, tho ive heard.
ive never seen his samus, tho ive heard.
BunBun
Smash Master
It's pretty **** when it's not getting 3 stocked.
P. O. F.
Smash Ace
Agreed. I think DK is actually a pretty good character.
He does nicely against everyone aside from spacies. I don't think Marth is as bad as people say and the same goes for Sheik. DK loses both IMO, but he definitely doesn't get *****. Dk's not bad against Ganon or Falcon either.
ChivalRuse
Smash Hero
Ganon destroys DK ...
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big false
DK's bair has enough range, speed, and priority to compete with ganon. Add that to DK's great grab and throw game, as well as the fact that he can combo ganon really well...
The MU is even-ish
Divinokage
Smash Legend
Hell no, with proper spacing, DK can't do ****.. and since he can then only rely on grabs it's predictable. Yes the grab game is good for DK but it's not enough. Ganon can combo DK really well too. And the edgeguard is so easy for Ganon and less for DK.
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both basically do the same **** to each other as far as combos and edge guards.
Divinokage
Smash Legend
Um.. clearly you never played the matchup.
Archangel
Smash Hero
DK and Ganon are not even. A really good DK has a good chance against a mediocre Ganon that doesn't know how to fight a DK. An Experience Ganon however will likely steamroll even the best of DK players.
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With what exactly?
P. O. F.
Smash Ace
I might sig this. You say this often and I find it pretty funny.
How many Ganons per se know the match up Kage? Like 3? Considering thats how many Ganon mains there are. As far as I know the only notable Ganon players around are you and RockCrock.
Dk has one of the best grab games in the game alongside Fox, Marth, and IC's. Not to mention all of his tilts are amazing alongside his uair and bair and lives longer than Bowser in some cases due to a better recovery and more air mobility. Ganon probably does beat DK but in no way is it ****. DK has a solid chance against everyone minus Falco.
otg
Smash Master
So much about this is wrong
ChivalRuse
Smash Hero
People actually think DK has a chance against Ganon? Fail.
SleepyK
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i guess we need
1) a dk main to post
2) people to support all of their claims with good evidence.
actually, i guess if rockcrock posted (since he plays both dk and ganon and is in a state with linguini in it) he'd probably be the authority on this in theory and application
1) a dk main to post
2) people to support all of their claims with good evidence.
actually, i guess if rockcrock posted (since he plays both dk and ganon and is in a state with linguini in it) he'd probably be the authority on this in theory and application
Fly_Amanita
Master of Caribou
Doesn't Kage live in the vicinity of pkmvodka? I'd assume he knows the match-up quite well.
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
DK has no chance vs a gay Sheik.
In the event someone starts talking about that one.
In the event someone starts talking about that one.
Archangel
Smash Hero
DK has a chance against sheik if the player is falling asleep or drops the controler frequently.
linguini??????
also dk's tilts aren't that special
Lovage
Smash Hero
ic players are dooches
cept fly
cept fly
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