bigman40
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What's a Peach?
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What's a Peach?
Yes :DYoshi has been out placings Peach.
Yoshi>Peach? lol.
Good job Polt.
Yes scatz, We've all "Made sure" Yoshi was Mid-tier in this thread...We've stated that from the beginning (save the extremists). Apparently, we didn't have the results to support mid-tier.
I'll do it!Sounds like Ike all over again, where is the Inui-like person who is gonna say Yoshi is bottom 5 and ignore everything else presented to them?
If by stating stuff that doesn't relate to the topic, sure I guess.Yes scatz, We've all "Made sure" Yoshi was Mid-tier in this thread...
If by stating stuff that doesn't relate to the topic, sure I guess.
I think people haven't clearly defined what determines a mid or low tier character. Or at least, it's been fairly ambiguous to me.
Yeah.Waiting for people to call me bad because of my opinion.
Oh.He still did better than Peach, didn't he?
Answer that though. I honestly don't know.
But that's what I'm saying. His problems seem a LOT more general than character specific when compared to characters somewhat around him. Ness/Ike for example. Sure they have general flaws, but they tend to be overshadowed cause someone can CG them or abuse a character trait over them, instead of "Oh well Yoshi sucks at approaching and his shield is bad, which makes things easier for the other guy regardless of what character they got".Well, of course he's butt to certain characters. It's the reason he's not a good character. As I recall, most characters in low mid tier have moderate problems with slight redeeming qualities.
I feel this way about Ike.I actually agree with DMG. Yoshi is an interesting character and his mains do work, but on a fundamental level I don't understand why so many people lose to this character.
The two problems that are general is his ability to shield like everyone else in the game, and to approach with safety. This mainly affects matchups where most characters can apply pressure and force him to stay in his shield (Marth, Diddy, MK, and Wario to some degree) and characters that effectively stop him from approaching without enhanced difficulty (Wolf, Toonlink, and Falco). The other characters that can't take full advantage of either of these flaws generally leave the matchup at a stalemate. Most characters aren't able to actually pin Yoshi down into his shield, and when it actually happens, most hits allow Yoshi to use the pushback to roll away and reset the field. His general flaws do affect his matchups on a whole scale, but only a few make those flaws very apparent.But that's what I'm saying. His problems seem a LOT more general than character specific when compared to characters somewhat around him. Ness/Ike for example. Sure they have general flaws, but they tend to be overshadowed cause someone can CG them or abuse a character trait over them, instead of "Oh well Yoshi sucks at approaching and his shield is bad, which makes things easier for the other guy regardless of what character they got".
It's because of that, that I find him less viable than other characters in a similar spot tier wise.
So many people lose to him due to not knowing an inch of what he can do (other than his CGs). Most people become shocked whenever someone gets egglayed. There's a huge lack of knowledge (more than others I believe) that shows why Yoshi does better more often than normal.I actually agree with DMG. Yoshi is an interesting character and his mains do work, but on a fundamental level I dont understand why so many people lose to this character.
I'm not calling Yoshi bad by any means, but when I watch videos of people that don't do basic things that work and get swept up into momentum... it's surprising. Maybe it's because my area have two good Yoshi players.
I can't speak for Lain or Nicole, though.
I didn't **** him with Wario actually. Game 2 where I went Diddy and did what I described... was much harder for him. It might be because he had aggressive tendencies that I don't think you can get away with VS Diddy, but yeah that matchup felt incredibly hard for Yoshi. Like borderline hard counter.DMG, wario ***** yoshi so obviously you beat polt badly XD
You're welcome to MM me instead of make up sets. I never got 3 stocked by a PT. I don't even think it was a 2 stock. Only game 2 wasn't "close" IIRC.That was -ages- ago, but, yeah. Unless there's another Bizkit who plays Snake, I totally three-stocked him in one of the two games, and the other wasn't much closer.
Yes, but recent tourneys has shown that he's consistently lost to Snakes (MVD and someone else). Anyways, this is quite off-topic. You're welcome to continue this in the Yoshi boards.Delta?
Last time I heard he said it was 55-45
Polts said he had trouble with diddy, i used to think it was unwinnable till i started playin like a ******* and now i think its close to evenish (well diddy wins but thats because diddy is a good character )I didn't **** him with Wario actually. Game 2 where I went Diddy and did what I described... was much harder for him. It might be because he had aggressive tendencies that I don't think you can get away with VS Diddy, but yeah that matchup felt incredibly hard for Yoshi. Like borderline hard counter.
Nah, I'm more interested in Snake vs Falco, and why Marth and Wario barely get any rep.I've very aware that he's a great Snake player. I've played him myself lmao. I included his name because he told me he played another Snake main and lost before MVD (IIRC). When he had to play against him, I knew he had a fairly high chance of losing due to how MVD plays (***** don't die <3).
Flayl, do you want to talk about Bowser then? At least it's much more controlled than when every Yoshi main was posting in the previous times.
Marth and Wario have to put in a lot more work, for results not as good as MK, Snake, Diddy, or Falco. Maybe that's why?Nah, I'm more interested in Snake vs Falco, and why Marth and Wario barely get any rep.