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Whirling Fortress is awesome, I hope they never get rid of that move. Like you said though, I'm hoping the Clown Car is both an entrance and Final Smash. I don't see how it could be an up special though. Personally, I think the Clown Car would be a much cooler FS than playable Giga Bowser.
People say the Clown Car could be a controllable recovery, a bit like Cypher. I think a good option would be to keep Whirling Fortress as a dash attack, replacing Bowser's lame lunge he has now. Then, he can have the Clown Car as a recovery. I'm just surprised it wasn't anywhere in Brawl at all, except two SSE cutscenes.
IIRC, Linebeck was in the last LoZ game (Phantom Hourglass). He hasn't had a chance to cameo.
Don't forget those Mecha Koopas
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Make Falco's FS the Sky Claw (from Star Fox Command), add Tails (but that's it for Sonic characters), and keep Meowth in the Pokeballs with Unown. Then I'll be happy.
In melee, this was the idea for ditto
i thought ditto was supposed to replace the random button?
Yes! In SSE, they could give Bowser an alter ego of pure evil (yes, more evil than he already is) and he turns into Giga Bowser. And at one point you have to fight him.
Ganondorf would be even more of a beast if he had his sword. I would play as Ganondorf if they gave him his sword.
I think that there should be an even longer SSE for Smash 4. I loved all of the surprises the first time playing SSE. I couldn't stop playing. I was truly addicted. I really want to relive that unexplainable feeling with a new plot. The reason that I want it to be longer, is because a longer SSE might bring extra space for more characters for the plot, and the more characters in the plot, the better the plot (unless, of course, there are too many characters, in my opinion). It's like a circle of awesomeness! Oh, and SSE needs more Ganondorf, Bowser, and Wario... hahahah. But seriously. They make it even cooler.
then a great majority of the fs would disappear. at least they have some connection to the character. (maybe not yoshi's) plus there aren't that many good ideas for fs that aren't just plain awkward
I see why some are difficult to come up with, but it still seems strange that their ultimate moves are something they never do (I'm looking at you Ness and Lucas). When you get right down to it, the movesets are not that faithful for any of the characters except the Kirby ones (could be wrong), Olimar, and Game and Watch.
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Eheh, didn't you argue that Dixie's more likely than K. Rool? I know you don't think a third DK rep can get in at all, just saying.
This is kind of contradictory. We're the people playing Smash, so we know what we would and wouldn't be happy with.
It felt like a sidescrolling beat em up. It would be more platformy if the walls were closing in like classic Sonic, or if sh*t fell off the ceiling.
Don't be.Sorry ive been gone
), but it's still somewhat accurate. Do you mean you'll make a post or something in regards to it? If you make a whole new thread (at least, if it's in here), the mods will lock it faster than you can say "Ridley can be resized". 
That's why I want to do it on a external page. The thing is, I haven't found the right way; I find Blogspot to be a bit unpractical for the purpose, and I don't know where I could start it besides it.
You know, it's funny that you say that because that's how some of the stages were in the SSE.
I hated the SSE. It was clear that nearly all of developement went into it, and it ended up as a completely generic platformer. Smash is about Nintendo's worlds colliding, why don't we see actually see things from series? Where are the Dodongos and Metroids as enemies? Why don't we have Magnus von Grapple or some other robot instead of some terrible original creation like Galleom? In SSB4, hopefully less development time goes into the SSE, and more goes into adding more characters, balancing the roster and fixing the online.
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If we get another Donkey Kong rep, which is a safe bet, it will be K.Rool. Dixie may have been planned, but she was a Nana to Diddy and the fact that they couldn't get her to work shows that they may not be able to for SSB4. K.Rool also has more popularity and continually shows up in the Donkey Kong series, whereas Dixie was replaced by Tiny in DK64 and henceforth was a dead character revived for spinoffs, like Birdo or Daisy.
Lolwut? You know I object to this already from the social group, but including Toon Zelda over Tingle is absolutely ridiculous. Yes she was planned for Brawl but that was because she would have such an easy moveset and Tingle didn't have the huge advantage over Toon Zelda yet. Now Tingle has four of his own games, the only one other than Link to, and massive popularity outside of America. Yes the West dislikes him somewhat but one region can't overrule popularity in the rest. Besides, he can be a punching bag, something we lack with the removal of Pichu.
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Yeah, Yoshi has no need for another rep. Perfect.
Perfect, Kirby doesn't need another rep and doesn't have any options for another.
Ugh Krystal. Why would you add another Star Fox character when the series is overrepped already and it's clear that it would be another clone? Remember, it would be a horrible move for Sakurai to do that. If the LANDMASTAAH fad gets any worse... Sakurai will probably focus on decloning Falco and Wolf (not really a clone).
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Oh boy. I don't want to drag this debate to the thread, but BS is soo much more likely. Yes Goroh has recieved more attention, but the trophies and stickers have been shown to mean nothing at all, and the fact that he was an AT shows that he may have been disqualified early in development plus he makes for a more interesting AT. Besides, even if Sakurai has a small amount of bias for Goroh, he's far more reasonable than including a character he sort of prefers over a character with far more popularity and significance (Goroh is practically a joke now).
Perfect. Well not quite because we never needed two Mother reps but it's likely to stay as it is.
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How about adding another new series character like Tom Nook or Paper Mario? You have 48 characters, why not make it 49 so plus random it can make a pretty-looking five-by-ten box? The new series you chose are the right ones though, just be aware that the GS3 protagonist is likely to usurp Isaac's spot.
Two new retro characters is kind of unnecesary. You say that Balloon Fighter is a placeholder, which doesn't make sense as we don't get new retro characters, we just do with the ones we have. In any case a second retro character should be Lip.
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GWAAH people do like Tingle and the West is the only region that hates him. One region isn't enough to overrule the rest of the world, and Tingle would make for an excellent punching bag, which we lack with the removal of Pichu.SmashChu said:
I don't say Dixie Kong's planning is in fact the reason though, but rather her role within the series. The fact that she was planned does help in some regards, given tha that a moveset was likely invisioned for her, which is technically more than you can say for Toon Zelda. (Given that she had a transformation into Toon Sheik, instead of Tetra, its pretty clear that she was just a clone.)
Given that Nana can work, and Dixie couldn't then its very well possible that she was in fact not like Nana at all. The most logical choice, given that a good deal of Diddy's moves don't make sense with Dixie/can't work with her, is that she would be like a mix of the Ice Climbers and Zelda/Sheik. How? Look at DKC2, where one always follows the other on the screen, and they can be switched out between each other. Odds are, this is what was going to happen, given the akward motion of Diddy's down B. (Plus it seems odd that character just spawns out a pre-existing item as one of their moves...can't remember if anyone actually does that outside of Peach on random occasion with bombs and swords)
How do we know that trophies and stickers don't mean anything if we haven't gotten SSB4 yet to verify that? And the fact that Black Shadow wasn't a AT could indicate that he was never even considered in the first place. And of course he'd make a more interesting AT, since he actually has the pottential for his own moves. All that Black Shadow ever did in the games was create a clone beam and get stranggled by Deathborne. Really, Black Shadow is a joke now, being the minion of another minion. If you're going to try to get the anime involved in this, then you may also want to rethink your claims on Goroh, given his character within that canon.
It doesn't last long enough to be fun for me.
I would like to see K. Rool get in, myself. There needs to be more playable villains, after all.
