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Portal Mafia! Game Over!

X1-12

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Okay I should have sent out a mass prod yesterday but have been real busy. I'm gonna start real prods counting time from 24 hours ago as thats when I should have started the prod clock again.
 

DtJ S2n

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Okay. Picking up prod and recognizing the existence of this game.
 

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Remind me why people are so dead set on finding the puppet.
Wouldn't lynching the SK be just as good?
 
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[7:50:51 AM] Pop Daddy: Alright, fine, fine. Hard Content is long due from me, so here we go;

Right now, I'm thinking that Stew just HAS to be scum at this point. Both me and Xonar have talked about this, and we both agree. Going off of simple PoE, there is no way I can fit him in as town. Reason being that he's playing too carefully. He hasn't done anything all game but prod dodge. Day 1 his only stance that I can remember was jumping on to the KBQQ after it was already 100% complete. Garbage. Cowardly scum coasting his way to victory, and I don't like it.

Then there's also LDH. More or less the same thing, except for his recent stances as of late. Hate the fact that it was a hydra that was coasting. Also, his line of questioning as of now I don't see going anywhere. Need to really look into this game later to find if one of these two are the puppet, cause I don't think either of them are the sk (read down).

I'm thinking that LDH and Stew are in the mafia together. I mean, why not? Nothing's keeping them apart, and I don't think Gord's in the mafia. Here's why:

While Gord may definitely be scum, I'm not thinking he's mafia. Probably the sk. He's been very open with his stances on everyone, too much so for what I expect from a Gord with a mafia buddy. We have other fish to fry at this time besides him.

Finally, Moth is my town lean. This can change since he seems to have gone inactive, but for pretty much the same reason LDR stated, I think he's town.

To close it all off, the conclusions are easy using PoE. We are town, moth is town, that leaves three people. Out of Stew/Ryker/Gorf, we definitely think Gorf is the SK. He can basically push anyone who isn't his puppet for a mislynch and he did. This is why we can't lynch him.

Leaving Stew/Ryker, I'm saying that Ryker is the puppet, 'cause the SK is obviously pushing Stew over Ryker. However, I'm obviously not going to put someone at L_1, so I'll abstain from voting for now.
 
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Remind me why people are so dead set on finding the puppet.
Wouldn't lynching the SK be just as good?
No, a SK lynch will lead to town being endgamed by the mafia. Also, a goon lynch will lead us to being endgamed by the sk with his puppet. Lynching the puppet is the only way to go, as it will create a stalemate between the goon and the sk.
 
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Making a judgement call. I could be wrong about this, but neither me nor my hydra partner really cares at this point.

vote: Gorf

Moth, your vote was scummy as ****, as has your play this entire Day. Still though, can't pass an opportunity like this up.
 

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I feel like now is the time to decide this game and take it into my hands. Dragged on long enough anyways.

Vote: Gorf

You four should proceed to give me all your WIFOM, I find it delicious.
 

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End of Day2 Votecount - [3/5]

Sold2 [0]
Gorf [3] - LDR, SMoth, Legolaz
(:xXx11!1!LegOLAAAzz!!11XxX:) [0]
Lunar Disco Redheads [0]
Moth [0]

Not Voting [2] Sold2, Gorf

Gorf is lynched and was town.

Have been real busy, sorry

Longer Night than usual due to New Years eve. Night actions in by 4AM GMT on the 2nd of January.

 

Terywj [태리]

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Nabe said:
Logging this here and now for post-game: I wasn't faking anything. I was and am still legitimately offended, and if you're town there's no excuse to act this way. For you to ignore me, and tell me you're ignoring me, and to tell me besides that that you're trying to make feel bad is just brazen and absolutely ****ed-up gameplay. I should've complained to X1, and I should've replaced out.
Hydra QT: http://www.quicktopic.com/47/H/q9MCcW2ZDwfg9
 

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Could have sworn we were the puppet.

That's about all I have to say hahaha, good work Sold
 

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Ah hell thanks Marshy. I'm the best ever. Heck yeah. They say I'm the best in the west with a gun and I think I'd have to agree. Ryker ain't never shot me.

Reading through this game and trying to decide between Ryker and Moth was hilarious. I had to eat so much WIFOM. In fact I'd say it was all WIFOM. Which was really interesting.

Also I'm pretty sure I've been Indy almost as much as Town. I do roll Indy A LOT.

Also I apologize for my play the last day phase. Being indy in a 2 v 2 v 1 is very odd and the best strategy is really to just say freaking nothing.
 

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Yeah, boring game. It's disappointing that we lost, but not terribly so.

GG Stew.

Sorry Brosuke and Ryker that I was wrong on the Gorf sk read.


[12/22/2011 9:01:08 PM] Shigeru Miyamoto: That's a free win to SK if we're wrong.
[12/22/2011 9:01:13 PM] Shigeru Miyamoto: I haven't asked GLife
[12/22/2011 9:01:31 PM] Shigeru Miyamoto: At the moment though
[12/22/2011 9:01:38 PM] Shigeru Miyamoto: I dunno who that is
[12/22/2011 9:01:40 PM] Shigeru Miyamoto: Could be Gorf
[12/22/2011 9:01:41 PM] Shigeru Miyamoto: Could be Sold
[12/22/2011 9:01:46 PM] Shigeru Miyamoto: Don't think it's Moth
[12/22/2011 9:01:57 PM] Sworddancer: that;s pretty much the same conclusion I came to
[12/22/2011 9:02:03 PM] Shigeru Miyamoto: So yeah
[12/22/2011 9:02:17 PM] Shigeru Miyamoto: Let me talk to GLife tonight and see how much he cares
[12/22/2011 9:02:26 PM] Sworddancer: it's just that my drive to win is not that high
[12/22/2011 9:02:49 PM] Sworddancer: it's like beating a 13 year old at smash
[12/22/2011 9:03:18 PM] Sworddancer: easy, but not satisfying
[12/22/2011 9:04:44 PM] Shigeru Miyamoto: Ikr
[12/22/2011 9:04:50 PM] Shigeru Miyamoto: This game has been lame as hell
[12/22/2011 9:05:01 PM] Shigeru Miyamoto: I can't get GLife to play at all
[12/22/2011 9:05:07 PM] Shigeru Miyamoto: Which in turn robs me of motivation
[12/22/2011 9:05:20 PM] Shigeru Miyamoto: And since we can figure out that Moth is town
[12/22/2011 9:05:22 PM] Shigeru Miyamoto: So can the SK
[12/22/2011 9:07:34 PM] Sworddancer: heads or tails?
[12/22/2011 9:11:08 PM] Shigeru Miyamoto: Lol
[12/22/2011 9:11:11 PM] Shigeru Miyamoto: Tails never fails
[12/22/2011 9:11:20 PM] Sworddancer: heads
[12/22/2011 9:11:46 PM] Sworddancer: sorry Ryker, your out of luck
[12/22/2011 9:12:04 PM] Shigeru Miyamoto: Eh
[12/22/2011 9:12:08 PM] Shigeru Miyamoto: Who needs luck
[12/22/2011 9:12:10 PM] Shigeru Miyamoto: Let's lynch Stew
[12/22/2011 9:12:46 PM] Sworddancer: Stew/Gord
[12/22/2011 9:12:59 PM] Sworddancer: it's nothing but luck
[12/22/2011 9:13:07 PM] Shigeru Miyamoto: You guys push Stew, we push Gord
[12/22/2011 9:13:11 PM] Shigeru Miyamoto: Whoever Moth votes
[12/22/2011 9:13:17 PM] Shigeru Miyamoto: The other hammers?
[12/22/2011 9:13:20 PM] Sworddancer: LOL
[12/22/2011 9:13:21 PM] Sworddancer: ok
[12/22/2011 9:13:31 PM] Sworddancer: if really want to do that, then I'm game
[12/22/2011 9:13:34 PM] Sworddancer: man
[12/22/2011 9:13:43 PM] Sworddancer: X1's gonna be SALLLLLTTTTY
[12/22/2011 9:13:48 PM] Shigeru Miyamoto: Idc
[12/22/2011 9:13:53 PM] Shigeru Miyamoto: We're posting this log in post game
[12/22/2011 9:14:07 PM | Edited 9:14:13 PM] Shigeru Miyamoto: Push Gorf and then I'll get Moth to vote
[12/22/2011 9:14:14 PM | Edited 9:14:24 PM] Shigeru Miyamoto: Er
[12/22/2011 9:14:17 PM] Shigeru Miyamoto: Stew
[12/22/2011 9:14:19 PM] Shigeru Miyamoto: Push Stew
[12/22/2011 9:42:11 PM] Sworddancer: should I just tack my vote on now?
[12/22/2011 10:37:05 PM] Shigeru Miyamoto: Yeah
[12/23/2011 6:57:36 PM] Sworddancer: Ryker, you cool with me trying to bait a hammer from Moth
[12/23/2011 6:57:46 PM] Sworddancer: and then unvoting quickly?
[12/23/2011 7:45:08 PM] Shigeru Miyamoto: EH
[12/23/2011 7:45:12 PM] Shigeru Miyamoto: Moth isn't gonna
[12/23/2011 7:45:20 PM] Shigeru Miyamoto: I'm sitting right next to him
[12/23/2011 7:45:27 PM] Shigeru Miyamoto: That's a weird situation
[12/23/2011 7:47:47 PM] Sworddancer: >.>
[12/23/2011 7:48:30 PM] Sworddancer: while he's there, punch him in the face for me, and tell him to vote Gord
[12/27/2011 4:04:23 PM] Sworddancer: Ryker, Gord is the sk
[12/27/2011 4:04:32 PM] Sworddancer: all of the evidence points to him
[12/27/2011 4:04:48 PM] Sworddancer: but I have absolutly no idea how to spin that
[12/27/2011 4:04:51 PM] Sworddancer: to him
[12/28/2011 4:19:42 AM] Shigeru Miyamoto: Sell me
[12/28/2011 4:19:49 AM] Shigeru Miyamoto: What's the driving point
[12/28/2011 4:19:57 AM] Shigeru Miyamoto: I will get him lynched should you give it to me
[12/28/2011 4:20:07 AM] Shigeru Miyamoto: And I know how I can do it.
[12/28/2011 9:57:15 AM] Sworddancer: It's obvious as ****
[12/28/2011 9:58:02 AM] Sworddancer: everything Gord has done lines up perfectly with what a Gord SK will want to do in this situation, with you being the puppet
[12/28/2011 9:58:03 AM] Sworddancer: 1
[12/28/2011 9:58:16 AM] Sworddancer: he's pushing Stew over you
[12/28/2011 9:58:40 AM] Sworddancer: from a townie perspective, there is absolutly no reason for him to be able to do this
[12/28/2011 9:58:43 AM] Sworddancer: 2
[12/28/2011 9:59:39 AM] Sworddancer: he's looking for the goon
[12/28/2011 10:00:34 AM] Sworddancer: he's pushing our slot as mafia, even though there really is no real evidnce to differate between our slot being indie scum oir mafia scum
[12/28/2011 10:00:49 AM] Sworddancer: 3
[12/28/2011 10:01:53 AM] Sworddancer: he's trying to hold back your lynch "to a later date." Obviously if he's the sk and your the puppet this is exactly what he would want to do, since they'll will be NO later date if he lynches the goon toDay.
[12/28/2011 10:02:26 AM] Sworddancer: 4
[12/28/2011 10:02:35 AM] Sworddancer: he's keeping his options open about the goon
[12/28/2011 10:03:41 AM] Sworddancer: which he genuinly has to do, since from a sk PoV with you as puppet, any of Moth, me, or Stew can be the goon
[12/28/2011 10:03:46 AM] Sworddancer: so he has to be careful
[12/28/2011 10:04:13 AM] Sworddancer: just look at how carefully he approaches reading Moth as town for evidence of this
[12/28/2011 10:04:16 AM] Sworddancer: 5
[12/28/2011 10:04:25 AM] Sworddancer: his Day 1 play was bad
[12/28/2011 10:04:42 AM] Sworddancer: as the sk, he's the only one who wouldn't care about a mislynch
[12/28/2011 10:05:16 AM] Sworddancer: in this particalur set up, town (and mafia, slightly less so), HAS to be careful with their Day 1 lynch
[12/28/2011 10:05:44 AM] Sworddancer: it is in a townies best interest to observe everyone Day 1
[12/28/2011 10:05:58 AM] Sworddancer: Gord though, was way too deadset on KBQQ
[12/28/2011 10:06:18 AM] Sworddancer: from start to finish he tunneled him
[12/28/2011 10:06:53 AM] Sworddancer: both from a townie PoV, and really, just a Gord PoV, this doesn't make sense
[12/28/2011 4:42:27 PM] Sworddancer: hey Ryker
[12/28/2011 4:42:53 PM] Sworddancer: me and Xonar are thinking about a plan to claim sk
[12/28/2011 4:43:14 PM] Sworddancer: so to survive toDay
[12/28/2011 4:43:20 PM] Sworddancer: and hopefully lynch Gord
[12/28/2011 4:43:32 PM] Sworddancer: plus, it will be a hilurous move
[12/28/2011 11:14:11 PM] Sworddancer: "Quoting this post just to put my two cents on the Gord lynch. While he may definitely be scum, I'm not thinking he's mafia. Probably the sk. He's been very open with his stances on everyone, too much so for what I expect from a Gord with a mafia buddy. We have other fish to fry at this time besides him."
[12/28/2011 11:14:23 PM] Sworddancer: -tidbit of my upcoming post
[12/28/2011 11:14:32 PM] Sworddancer: like it?
[12/28/2011 11:16:09 PM] Sworddancer: remember to exploit both the bad logic and the fact that that this is what I would want as a SK with Gord as my puppet
[12/28/2011 11:28:08 PM] Sworddancer: um
[12/28/2011 11:28:18 PM] Sworddancer: should I post our hydra logs in the qt?
[12/28/2011 11:28:25 PM] Sworddancer: I mean, we're kinda suppose to
[12/28/2011 11:31:11 PM] Sworddancer: do you think I should try to hurt Stew's feelings a little bit?
[12/28/2011 11:31:31 PM] Sworddancer: maybe if I can do that, then he might be more easy to manipulate
[12/28/2011 11:48:21 PM] Sworddancer: my upcoming "stances":
[12/28/2011 11:49:28 PM] Sworddancer: [11:47:09 PM] Sworddancer: Alright, fine, fine. Hard Content is long due from me, so I'll dish it out.
Right now, I'm thinking that Stew just HAS to be scum at this point. Both me and Xonar have talked about this, and we both agree. Going off of simple PoE, there is no way I can fit him in as town. Reason being that he's playing too carefully. He hasn't done anything all game but prod dodge. Day 1 his only stance that I can remember was jumping on to the KBQQ after it was already 100% complete. Garbage. Cowardly scum coasting his way to victory, and I don't like it. If he's town, then I'm disapointed in him. Play like this is not deserving of gold dice.

Then there's also LDH. More or less the same thing, except for his recent stances as of late. Hate the fact that it was a hydra that was coasting. Also, his line of questioning as of now I don't see going anywhere. Need to really look into this game later to find if one of these two are the puppet, cause I don't think either of them are the sk (read down).
I'm thinking that LDH and Stew are in the mafia together. I mean, why not? Nothing's keeping them apart, and I don't think Gord's in the mafia. Here's why:

While Gord may definitely be scum, I'm not thinking he's mafia. Probably the sk. He's been very open with his stances on everyone, too much so for what I expect from a Gord with a mafia buddy. We have other fish to fry at this time besides him.

Finally, Moth is my town lean. This can change since he seems to have gone inactive, but for pretty much the same reason LDR stated, I think he's town.
[12/28/2011 11:49:40 PM | Removed 11:50:12 PM] Sworddancer: This message has been removed.
[12/28/2011 11:50:27 PM] Sworddancer: feel free to critque/edit as you see fit
Yup
[12/29/2011 12:26:55 AM] Shigeru Miyamoto: No
[12/29/2011 12:27:00 AM] Shigeru Miyamoto: Stew is gonna be kinda immune
[12/29/2011 12:28:05 AM] Shigeru Miyamoto: I like that
 

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Ryker you boner, putting the blame all on me like that
 

#HBC | Gorf

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NGL, I was about to come out and call Lego puppet had i not been lynched, i cant remember the connection but it was there somewhere.

Im disappointed the way this damn good setup played out. Although me wagoning KBBQ was the way out of RVS, everything i said was legit. And im sure if the three scum ACTUALLY PLAYED (aside from lego sorta (xonar i applaude for taking over a fair amount of the posting lol)) this game would probz go in a different direction. But ahh well, i mean, I GUESS I can't condemn any townies for not giving it all. I tried...
 

#HBC | Dancer

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NGL, I was about to come out and call Lego puppet had i not been lynched, i cant remember the connection but it was there somewhere.

Im disappointed the way this damn good setup played out. Although me wagoning KBBQ was the way out of RVS, everything i said was legit. And im sure if the three scum ACTUALLY PLAYED (aside from lego sorta (xonar i applaude for taking over a fair amount of the posting lol)) this game would probz go in a different direction. But ahh well, i mean, I GUESS I can't condemn any townies for not giving it all. I tried...
Brosuke was a good partner to bounce ideas off of, but I made like, 90% of the posts you noob.

Even 245 and 246 were me, pretending to be Xonar.
 

#HBC | Dancer

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Actually what I'm doing is putting everything in writing and looking for the puppet. The most pro town thing you can do, Xonar, is NOT post and totally allow Sword to post, so I can determine whether you guys are the puppet or not. Sword will give himself away eventually.
The day that I "give myself away" to you will be the day I retire from mafia. Keep dreaming kid.
 

#HBC | Nabe

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Good game. It's aggravating that no one listened to my suggestions, since I said flatout that Ryker/Sold were different factions. Lego as third from there is an easy PoE, disregarding Gord who was clearly just a douche. Pay more attention to inconsistent reads and voting patterns.
 

#HBC | Ryker

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The set-up, on the other hand, was amazing. That LyLo situation is among the most interesting I'be ever seen. Activity made it impossible to figure out though.

:phone:
 

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Was indeed trolling, I thought Gorfs play would have made that apparent. No MvP.

Also @Scumteam: Why do you feel 10 day deadlines were so harsh on scum, and then later complain there's not enough content to analyse who was the puppet/SK? Not having a go just curious as to what you think and how much you feel shroter deadlines would actually have helped
 

#HBC | ZoZo

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Shorter deadlines would've put more pressure on getting people to post.

10 days for a 7 man set-up is, without a doubt, ridiculous.
That said, you never even gave a deadline for the last day.
Hardly any vote counts were produced either.

That said, thanks for hosting. Some hiccups, but it's cool.
 

#HBC | Dancer

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Was indeed trolling, I thought Gorfs play would have made that apparent. No MvP.

Also @Scumteam: Why do you feel 10 day deadlines were so harsh on scum, and then later complain there's not enough content to analyse who was the puppet/SK? Not having a go just curious as to what you think and how much you feel shroter deadlines would actually have helped
The idea is that, the less players a game has, the shorter the deadlines should be. This is because there should be (hypothetically) less to discuss, and there should be less problems with activity. It's harsh on scum to have to hold out so long when any one townie has a 50/50 shot at random to lynch correctly Day one.

Of course, the activity this game made it so that the LYLO situation was nothing but a shot in the dark, 10 Day deadlines or not. The argument against the long deadlines is coming out of theory, not what actually happened in game.
 
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