Yeah Ness can DJC too, but it just isn't as scary as Yoshi's as he doesn't have an air grab that make you stress about keeping your shield up, nor that hax aerial speed :V
Oh, and lucas can zap jump with a banana. looks hilarious, even though it isn't that useful xD
Unless he tosses it up and upairs you, I think it's a true combo and it can probably star ko you
and while all that Yoshi stuff from Teneban was great, I really need some explanation as to what Yoshi can do exactly/how he does it. I've never played anyone who uses DJC before.
Hmm okay, time for details. Yoshi's double jump's vertical momentum is cancellable by doing a B move or an item toss. He can do it on the floor by double jumping as soon as he leaves the ground, or do a random empty short hop and DJC at any point of it, or in example after a SH bair. This is already used with his neutral B, as it gives him an horizontal boost that can punish opponents from FAR away, landing safely after a shielded bair or be used as a baiting maneuver (see in exemple
Zude's Yoshi, who spams it and is good at it. Fortunately he doesn't seem to know how to use bananas lol).
Now, if you replace the neutral B with a banana toss, this has the same effect except it isn't as punishable, so spotdodging it is useless as you'll eat a jab at low% and a killing downB at higher ones ; you can only shield it or instant throw it back. By mixing up the two techniques, Yoshi can really mess up with our defensive game, because if you guess wrong, you'll eat at least 20% and STILL be in a disadvantaged position.
You can still counter it by using the 2nd banana, ofc it's not anywhere near matchup braking but it really messes with momentum and I don't like it :V