Hey_its_YO
Smash Lord
LOL, im an idiot for not watching matches time out. GG good sir i can't win against logic like that.
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*POUND* 4 Brawl Results (Full results and brackets in OP)
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Well I can't win against stupidity like what you just said so peace.
Seagull Joe
Smash Legend
I never make matches longer then 5 minutes. And in matches I think I rarely grab the edge more then 10 times. No wonder I keep losing to Mks. I gotta plank more and time out the clock.
TheTantalus
Smash Hero
Ill talk about all this and more as soon as I get to a computer today
Bartolon
Smash Lord
MetalMusicMan
Sleepwalk our lives away.
Yeah, I agree Chu vs DEHF was an awesome match... I was so sad when DEHF died though, haha. It was soooo close.
Savvy
Smash Cadet
Am i reading this right m2k lost to adhd?
None of the three games timed out. I think the longest game took 6 minutes.
Angel.M <3 C:
Smash Champion
Ok you IDIOTS who are saying "omg so many mk's" or "its gonna turn into nothing but mk!"
SHUT UP.
Seriously. At big tournaments most top player will be attending. So who do alot of top players use? METAKNIGHT. This is about mk being amazingly broken. Last time i checked it was called popularity. I mean seriously what mk player in the top 10 surprised you that they got that far?
ALL THESE MK'S ARE TOP PLAYERS IN THEIR RESPECTIVE REGION. Stop *****ing. The tournament was amazing minus some bracket and pool errors.
Also I am sad I got no shout-out, I thought people would realize I existed after everything i did for this tournament. ;__;
Shout-outs later.
SHUT UP.
Seriously. At big tournaments most top player will be attending. So who do alot of top players use? METAKNIGHT. This is about mk being amazingly broken. Last time i checked it was called popularity. I mean seriously what mk player in the top 10 surprised you that they got that far?
ALL THESE MK'S ARE TOP PLAYERS IN THEIR RESPECTIVE REGION. Stop *****ing. The tournament was amazing minus some bracket and pool errors.
Also I am sad I got no shout-out, I thought people would realize I existed after everything i did for this tournament. ;__;
Shout-outs later.
Angel... Characters are like binoculars, meaning that the better the character, the better your chances of seeing far-off stuff. But MK is closer to a telescope, your skills might not get better faster but his options make it easy to earn a 'top player' status. Why might it be that MKs are the characters to make it out of pools almost every time? Why is MK the choice that most top players choose to win tourneys with? If Diddy was truly better one person alone wouldn't be enough to prove it (ADHD is good, one player doesn't make the character... Like Ally and Snake)... It isn't because he's the best in the game, I mean look at the other top tier characters and how tough it is for them to gain victories... MK even had his own tier once due to how far ahead in terms of how 'good' he was compared to the #2 character, practically a year after that MK is still taking virtually all the top spots.People use ADHD and Ally as counterexamples for MK's dominance, but MK is still taking the tourney winnings AND rest of the top spots from other players. Are people truly happy with not having chances of winning any money?
Jigglymaster
Smash Hero
Pool 22:
1st Mew2King (MK)
2nd Dapuffster (Jiggly, Diddy)
3rd -hilt- (Olimar)
Eliminated: Aniolas, Cartoon, Umby, Lil'b
Pool 16
1st Ally (MK)
2nd Dapuffster (Jiggly, Diddy)
3rd dmbrandon (MK)
Eliminated: Kirinblaze, Lou, Poltergust
1: ADHD (Diddy)
2: Mew2King (Metaknight)
3: Ally (Snake/Metaknight)
4: KSizzle (Metaknight/Lucario)
5: Shadow_111 (Metaknight)
5: Judge (Metaknight)
7: Havok (Metaknight)
7: Logic (Olimar)
9: Lee Martin (Metaknight)
9: Seibrik (Metaknight)
9: Ninjalink (Diddy)
9: Lain (Ice Climbers)
13: ChuDat (Kirby)
13: Malcolm (Wario)
13: Vex Kasrani (Dedede/Bowser)
13: DEHF (Falco)
17: co18 (Dedede)
17: Sanoscy (Metaknight)
17: Candy (Snake)
17: Alpha Zealot (Diddy)
17: DjIskascribble (Metaknight)
17: Dekar (Diddy)
17: Fatal (Snake)
17: Hunger (Wario)
25: Atomsk (Dedede)
25: HAT (Dedede/Wario)
25: dmbrandon (Metaknight)
25: Cable (Donkey Kong)
25: Xzax (Metaknight)
25: Infern Angelis (Snake)
25: Ling Ling (Dedede)
25: Bizkit (Snake)
33: jtails (Diddy)
33: Smash64 (Ness)
33: Dapuffster (Jigglypuff/Diddy)
33: Y.B.M. (Kirby)
33: Omni (Metaknight)
33: Stingers (Metaknight/ROB)
33: Junebug (Lucario/DK)
33: Bloodcross (Marth???)
33: Jash (Toon Link)
33: Hyro (Toon Link)
33: Takeover (Snake)
33: Boss (Luigi)
33: Mikey Lenetia (Peach)
33: Zucco (Lucario)
33: Pierce (Marth)
33: NEO (Marth)
Jigglypuff, an F tier character in top 48...
1. Jigglypuff needs to be higher on the tier list IMO
2. Get at my Jigglypuff I used Jiggs twice as much as Diddy in the final bracket.
1st Mew2King (MK)
2nd Dapuffster (Jiggly, Diddy)
3rd -hilt- (Olimar)
Eliminated: Aniolas, Cartoon, Umby, Lil'b
Pool 16
1st Ally (MK)
2nd Dapuffster (Jiggly, Diddy)
3rd dmbrandon (MK)
Eliminated: Kirinblaze, Lou, Poltergust
1: ADHD (Diddy)
2: Mew2King (Metaknight)
3: Ally (Snake/Metaknight)
4: KSizzle (Metaknight/Lucario)
5: Shadow_111 (Metaknight)
5: Judge (Metaknight)
7: Havok (Metaknight)
7: Logic (Olimar)
9: Lee Martin (Metaknight)
9: Seibrik (Metaknight)
9: Ninjalink (Diddy)
9: Lain (Ice Climbers)
13: ChuDat (Kirby)
13: Malcolm (Wario)
13: Vex Kasrani (Dedede/Bowser)
13: DEHF (Falco)
17: co18 (Dedede)
17: Sanoscy (Metaknight)
17: Candy (Snake)
17: Alpha Zealot (Diddy)
17: DjIskascribble (Metaknight)
17: Dekar (Diddy)
17: Fatal (Snake)
17: Hunger (Wario)
25: Atomsk (Dedede)
25: HAT (Dedede/Wario)
25: dmbrandon (Metaknight)
25: Cable (Donkey Kong)
25: Xzax (Metaknight)
25: Infern Angelis (Snake)
25: Ling Ling (Dedede)
25: Bizkit (Snake)
33: jtails (Diddy)
33: Smash64 (Ness)
33: Dapuffster (Jigglypuff/Diddy)
33: Y.B.M. (Kirby)
33: Omni (Metaknight)
33: Stingers (Metaknight/ROB)
33: Junebug (Lucario/DK)
33: Bloodcross (Marth???)
33: Jash (Toon Link)
33: Hyro (Toon Link)
33: Takeover (Snake)
33: Boss (Luigi)
33: Mikey Lenetia (Peach)
33: Zucco (Lucario)
33: Pierce (Marth)
33: NEO (Marth)
Jigglypuff, an F tier character in top 48...
1. Jigglypuff needs to be higher on the tier list IMO
2. Get at my Jigglypuff I used Jiggs twice as much as Diddy in the final bracket.
Angel.M <3 C:
Smash Champion
Um alot of MK's didn't make it out of pools. It's just the BEST one's did. again this goes back to popularity. People pick up mk because it's easier then playing say snake, diddy, or ICies.
That's how the game is, but is that a problem? NO, melee had this problem too but they got over it with time.
let the god**** game develop.
That's how the game is, but is that a problem? NO, melee had this problem too but they got over it with time.
let the god**** game develop.
MetalMusicMan
Sleepwalk our lives away.
I like this guy already ^_^
Xyro77
Unity Ruleset Committee Member
Angel.M <3 C:
Smash Champion
-Sigh- This community will never improve, if you all keep acting like kids over a character. please grow up. x.x
Develop into what, another Tekken4? Come on man, try and look for similar situations if you're gonna try and argue with craptastic info.
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1: ADHD (Diddy)
2: Mew2King (Metaknight)
3: Ally (Snake/Metaknight)
4: KSizzle (Metaknight/Lucario)
5: Shadow_111 (Metaknight)
5: Judge (Metaknight)
7: Havok (Metaknight)
7: Logic (Olimar)
9: Lee Martin (Metaknight)
9: Seibrik (Metaknight)
9: Ninjalink (Diddy)
9: Lain (Ice Climbers)
3/4 of the top 12 are MetaKnight, and a Diddy tops it all off. Not sure how about I feel about that.
Congrats ADHD.
2: Mew2King (Metaknight)
3: Ally (Snake/Metaknight)
4: KSizzle (Metaknight/Lucario)
5: Shadow_111 (Metaknight)
5: Judge (Metaknight)
7: Havok (Metaknight)
7: Logic (Olimar)
9: Lee Martin (Metaknight)
9: Seibrik (Metaknight)
9: Ninjalink (Diddy)
9: Lain (Ice Climbers)
3/4 of the top 12 are MetaKnight, and a Diddy tops it all off. Not sure how about I feel about that.
Congrats ADHD.
Angel.M <3 C:
Smash Champion
How can you compare a completely different game like tekken4 to brawl?
Just stop seriously. This community is nothing but kids johning. :/
Didn't we create the term "no-johns"?
Just stop seriously. This community is nothing but kids johning. :/
Didn't we create the term "no-johns"?
Cook
Smash Master
I think the community would develop much better if the players actually got to make the rules instead of having to do what the SBR recommends. Tourneys would be so much better if the people paying to enter actually had some say in what the rules should be, but instead we have to listen to people who are too scared of what other fighting game players will think.
Overswarm
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So are all the other character mains.
Angel.M <3 C:
Smash Champion
Ugh did you not notice the players? you people need to start looking at names and not searching for an mk next to it. Jesus ****ing christ you guys are seriously horrible
@overswarm: MK is the best character in the game of course the best character will have more representitives then others in the cast, but does that make him bannable? no.
Also: me and NinjaLink were talking about this on our way home. If you wanna put alittle rule on mk withoutt completely killing him. Why not give people 2 stage bans vs mk?
Xyro77
Unity Ruleset Committee Member
go back to pallet town
MarKO X
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1: Ally (Wario, Snake)
2: Lee Martin (Lucario)
3: dapuffster (Jiggs)
4: Glick (Jiggs, DDD)
5: Chu (Kirby)
5: Slikvik (Wario, Peach, G&W)
7: Hyro (Toon Link)
7: K-sizzle (Lucario, MK)
9: Shadow (Wario, MK?)
9: JCaesar (ROB, Wolf)
9: Chad (Pikachu?)
9: Dazwa (Pit, ZSS)
That's the top 12 for Brawl+. Top players, but a f**kton more variety. I don't see what you're getting at.
Oh, and if you have to put a (single) rule on a character, it wouldn't be that bad. But for MK, there are like 3 or 4 rules to keep him in the game.
However, like I said, a Diddy that tops it all off... thus, I don't know how I feel about that. It's just like the Japanese Ryu in the realm of Sagats in SF4... I don't know how I feel about that either.
Angel.M <3 C:
Smash Champion
....Brawl + really? First of all this game changes ALL THE TIME. You can't even figure out who the best character is yet.
God people.
Tin Man
Smash Hero
who were the 2 commentators towards the end of the brawl singles?
junebug
Smash Journeyman
really really fun tourney. kinda disappointed at how reckless i played in singles but no johns lolz.
fun stuff OOS + friends, hope to see you again soon.
fun stuff OOS + friends, hope to see you again soon.
Cook
Smash Master
^This.
Honestly, what needs to happen to convince some of you people that MK should be banned? Does he have to take top 32 or something?
Also, did Lee Martin go all MK? No Lucario at all?
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This is a long, long story....
But to cut it short:
Small changes don't work. You can rarely, if ever, make "surgical" changes to the game and expect things to work out. Unintended changes come up that you don't like. You either change it enough to where MK is now BAD in certain situations, or you don't do enough to change the status quo. It's a lose-lose situation. This creates NEW situations peopel haven't seen.
Global changes do work. If we ban MK, we just see situations that already existed more often. We take away previous situations entirely instead of editing them.
Bartolon
Smash Lord
He doesn't need to be banned x)
It's just pathetic how many people play MK in order to win lmao
It's just pathetic how many people play MK in order to win lmao
uh the community is just fine actually.
everyone who actually attended Pound 4 understands ****. the majority of the arguing is going to be people who sit at home, watch live streams, and camp smash forums.
the only "community" i see are the people who just sit back and talk about the actual players who attend the tournaments aka spectators/commentators that really don't know ****.
anyway, don't turn this thread into dumb bickering about things most of you clearly don't know anything about.
90% of the posts i see are just people whining. babies. if u want fun then stay at home and play free for all with items on.
everyone who actually attended Pound 4 understands ****. the majority of the arguing is going to be people who sit at home, watch live streams, and camp smash forums.
the only "community" i see are the people who just sit back and talk about the actual players who attend the tournaments aka spectators/commentators that really don't know ****.
anyway, don't turn this thread into dumb bickering about things most of you clearly don't know anything about.
90% of the posts i see are just people whining. babies. if u want fun then stay at home and play free for all with items on.
6Mizu
Smash Champion
Bloodcross
Smash Champion
33: Bloodcross (Marth???)
33: Bloodcross (Falco)
33: Bloodcross (Falco)
SOVAman
Smash Hero
I want it in American bills no Euros
dis is america
ShadoFiend
Smash Lord
He went Lucario all through pools
omegablackmage
Certified Lion Rider
First of all, the game won't be having any major balance changes to it. The only modifications will be glitches etc. (Not like there really have been any major changes as of late).
Second thing to point out is that what changes are made are to make the best characters more balanced and the lower characters a bit better, it only makes the game stronger in this argument.
There were a lot of top players there but no one was playing the same character, regardless of popularity. Don't **** on the game just because you've never given it a shot competitively.