Turbo Ether
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BUT.....i did come up to you at the tourny...and did ask why all of the sudden is it 3/5 for semi's?!It's wednesday and the tournament ended on monday. What's done is done. If you would've came up to us at the venue that's a whole different story, but you (as well as everyone) assumed it would be a best 3/5 (because it should've been) and so the set was played with the agreement that it was a best 3/5.
Not much you can do 2 days after the tournament, sorry.
i wonder what plank told you..but oh well nothing can be done now sadly :/BUT.....i did come up to you at the tourny...and did ask why all of the sudden is it 3/5 for semi's?!
i understand that now its impossible to do anything about it....but regardless it does seem that me/chu and kelvin got screwed
all he told me was it was a new rulei wonder what plank told you..but oh well nothing can be done now sadly :/
hmm that sounds kinda unfair bcuz of the practice and time spent learning to do those CGs with ICs. its like stealing the reward of the player's practice by getting DDDs infinites to be legal that are very easily done and can even be done by mashing the grab button.I'm gonna do some dramatic rule alterations, the biggest of them being:
All standing infinites are legal, which include Marth on Ness, Dedede on Mario/DK, and Ice Climbers on everyone. It's not fair to allow the ice climbers to do it and not let everyone else do it. If you don't want to be infinited, don't pick that character in the matchup.
15 minutes down the drain. What a shame.hmm that sounds kinda unfair bcuz of the practice and time spent learning to do those CGs with ICs. its like stealing the reward of the player's practice.
Candy, I wasn't aware at the time that VGBootcamp posted rules that said semis were no longer 3/5, directly contradicting my post on the first page. I will say that this is NOT the only issue that came up to stress me out because of the rules they posted. I sincerely apologize for the miscommunication of the rules, I thought everyone understood all semifinals and finals were b/o5 because it was such a big tournament but because the rules were posted differently from what they should've been, i DEFINITELY see where you are coming from.BUT.....i did come up to you at the tourny...and did ask why all of the sudden is it 3/5 for semi's?!
i understand that now its impossible to do anything about it....but regardless it does seem that me/chu and kelvin got screwed
lmao amazing15 minutes down the drain. What a shame.
understandableCandy, I wasn't aware at the time that VGBootcamp posted rules that said semis were no longer 3/5, directly contradicting my post on the first page. I will say that this is NOT the only issue that came up to stress me out because of the rules they posted. I sincerely apologize for the miscommunication of the rules, I thought everyone understood all semifinals and finals were b/o5 because it was such a big tournament but because the rules were posted differently from what they should've been, i DEFINITELY see where you are coming from.
I am only one person so I can only do so much and I knew realistically I couldn't run Brawl AND Melee. It would've been too much. It's disappointing that the people I thought I could trust to run Brawl didn't come through how I had hoped and in the process a few of you guys got hurt by it.
Again I am really sorry for the misconception of the rules. I hope regardless everyone had a good time.
I'm gonna do some dramatic rule alterations, the biggest of them being:
100 ledge grab limit PER TEAM IN DOUBLES, 50 ledge grab limit in singles
12 MINUTE TIMER- Yes I realize what the outcome could be of this, but adding another 4 minutes should almost assure us the time does not run out.
Smashville, FD, and BF as the only neutrals, YI and Lylat as CP
Rainbow Cruise banned, Distant Planet legal
Stalling is banned, judge's discretion
Scrooging is NOT banned, unless the opponent is making no attempt to approach at all, in which case, that is stalling, so the opponent would be DQ'd for that match. 3 flights under the stage consecutive without any attempt to pressure the opponent will result in DQ.
Bowsercide results in a win for bowser
Ganon/Wario/Dedede/Kirby "cide", if the game chooses a winner, that person wins. If the game goes to sudden death, a 1 stock runoff is played.
I'm still not sure what to do if we get the ice climber fusion glitch again. It's kind of hard to prevent such a thing, but people might start doing it on purpose to utilize it. Right now, if the IC fusion glitch happens, the match will be reset.
All standing infinites are legal, which include Marth on Ness, Dedede on Mario/DK, and Ice Climbers on everyone. It's not fair to allow the ice climbers to do it and not let everyone else do it. If you don't want to be infinited, don't pick that character in the matchup.
You guys were amazing. Well donem2k/ally: me and chu got you next time!!!!!!! >:o)
Dedede's grab being "unavoidable forever", makes him a somewhat good character.I don't think Dedede's standing infinites should ever be legal because avoiding Dedede's grab forever is basically impossible and you can at least kill Nana to remove the gayness from ICs but Dedede is fat and can always do it no matter what.
There was this other thread where they were trying to find a solution to time outs and stalling and I made this suggestion:Yeah I really hate the timer in general, The game will either die or live by the timer
neither is really fun, thats why im trying to think of other ideas
That animation in your sig is ****ing win.I don't think Dedede's standing infinites should ever be legal because avoiding Dedede's grab forever is basically impossible and you can at least kill Nana to remove the gayness from ICs but Dedede is fat and can always do it no matter what.
That's because Ease has nothing to do with it. A character that has a specific Cg on a character that voids him nonviable is what makes it banned. In terms of IC's, the characters whole build is based off of CG'ing people, which is what makes it legal. It is important to note that you should not clump the 2 into the same category of play because it's 2 different scenarios. One character's whole purpose is to CG' because it is pretty much all they can do, and another is to just grab and rack up damage in that fashion. IC's can do it on everyone, which somewhat creates the balance for it since it's not character specific. Without it they aren't really useful at all in any case lol.I agree with with DDD's infinites should have never been banned in the first place. Ease of use is not relevant.
This is true. A little bleh, but true.The trick is to not pick characters that can be infinited by D3 versus D3 players.
i see the point of both of these rules together, but i think it would just be much easier to include an addendum in the ruleset that classifies planking as stalling and that it is subject to judge's ruling, just like any other form of stalling. there are ways to easily run the timer out and play super defensively without resorting to regrabbing the ledge over and over. if you want to put a stop to planking and not mess up characters that legitimately need to regrab the ledge often, this is the best solution *imo*.100 ledge grab limit PER TEAM IN DOUBLES, 50 ledge grab limit in singles
12 MINUTE TIMER- Yes I realize what the outcome could be of this, but adding another 4 minutes should almost assure us the time does not run out.
really dislike this, diddy and ICs get even stronger and you have almost no variety when it comes to stage selection in the most important match of the set.Smashville, FD, and BF as the only neutrals, YI and Lylat as CP
iduno about this. are pictochat/pokemon stadium 2/japes legal?Rainbow Cruise banned, Distant Planet legal
what about air release "infinites" on wario? those take absolutely forever and rely on only pummel damage. it's almost like stalling.All standing infinites are legal, which include Marth on Ness, Dedede on Mario/DK, and Ice Climbers on everyone. It's not fair to allow the ice climbers to do it and not let everyone else do it. If you don't want to be infinited, don't pick that character in the matchup.
tell that to DK mainers. they will love u for sure.The trick is to not pick characters that can be infinited by D3 versus D3 players.
I'll tell them this:tell that to DK mainers. they will love u for sure.
and also call them noobsDK mains need to work on secondaries. The ability to play more than one character adds to your skill as a smasher, which is what is being judged in tournies. If you can only play one character who has a major weakness that you can't make up for, that's your fault as a smasher.
...You can't be serious.what about air release "infinites" on wario? those take absolutely forever and rely on only pummel damage. it's almost like stalling.
False, but at the same time true. The issue with this, as I bring up in every debate amount anything in smash, is that brawl is a game of CP'ing. When Melee players ***** and complain about brawl I tend to laugh because I think they are oblivious about the flaws in their own game. It is almost depressing to see such stupidity in a human, actually. Brawl isn't melee, and it is time to say that people just need to deal with it. They are 2 completely different games.DK mains need to work on secondaries. The ability to play more than one character adds to your skill as a smasher, which is what is being judged in tournies. If you can only play one character who has a major weakness that you can't make up for, that's your fault as a smasher.
Hey Tantalus, I know this is a burden but... could you upload the results in AiB? I'd like to see the detailed results in pools... Also, which were the payouts?For the record, I made the decision to be best of 5
From now on when I'm TOing an event, I'll make the rules for it, that simple
Ok so D3 infinite's are legal now? Ok, Boss will never win another tourney because he will get standing infinited. He chooses Mario/Luigi, I Cp D3. One grab=Stock. I can do the standing infinite with D3. It's so easy. Hahahahaah.I think infinites should be legal up to 150%, meaning if you deal over 150% in the infinite lock, you must release them
Also, the suicide rule stays, Dedede should never win for that BS, i shouldn't have to time him out, same with kirby, wario etc. when the other player has dominated that match, he shouldn't be forced to time his opponent out. My rule gives incentive to approach.
I think I'll use bolts ruleset at my next brawl tourney, with some slight modifications.
Agreed.If one infinite is legal then they all should be, being able to kill nana doesn't mean ****, for real
Killing nana so the infinite is not possible doesn't mean anything? How?????I'm not coming to a tourny with stupid *** rules, things are pretty much fine as is, I mean DP n not RC? That's a joke. The whole time out thing is up for debate but I promise I will try and time out every match if its 12 minutes just for lulz D; Lol, most matches don't end in time out anyway, Ksizzle n M2K are just gayyyyy xD
If one infinite is legal then they all should be, being able to kill nana doesn't mean ****, for real
it should be addressed, regardless. functionally it's the same thing with waaaaay less damage....You can't be serious.
It's called a set-up. Who the **** has ever had the intention of stalling by grab releasing a Wario? And if so...boo hoo, a whole five seconds down the drain. Dear lord...