PPMD's Falco Discussion Thread

[TheCrimsonBlur]

You can't get out of **** homie.

DJ just needs to learn how to combo like a god

Only then will you have the fear firmly implanted in your soul

 

[Mahone]

DJ does combo like a god, that dude is too good

 

[TheCrimsonBlur]

I taught him everything he knows.

You heard it here first.

 

[Rubyiris]

I try to play like I just don't give a ****/disrespect everything/with absolute confidence.

sometimes it works and I get like, 4th.

Sometimes I'm like OGOD PLEASE DON'T HURT ME, and geth 5th/7th

 

[ShroudedOne]

I play better (like, I don't lose as much) when I'm confident and not running. But whenever I'm placed out of position, or I get stopped too many times, I start playing scared again. Once I can learn to simply go in, I imagine I'll get a lot better. So yeah, I agree with what you're saying, Bones. Besides, it is the best way to learn. Just throw everything you can, and see what sticks. Then get rid of what doesn't.

 

[Rubyiris]

I thought you didn't want to play this game anymore.

 

[ShroudedOne]

Me? I don't remember saying that. It just gets really frustrating at times.

 

[Rubyiris]

We were talking about small nuances of smash and you were like this game is too hard i don't want to play anymore.

 

[ShroudedOne]

Oh. No, that was me just joking (kind of, this game is intimidating sometimes). It's still really fun, though. And I'd never go to any other variation.

 

[Rubyiris]

There may be hope for you, yet.

Also **** that. Stare the small nunances of melee down and make them your *****.

 

[Prince_Abu]

crystal beasts sucks blackwings r where its at

 

[Moooose]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPh7M8gOX2w&feature=related
i didnt win but some good stuff happened in this set...along with some bad stuff lol.
lmk what you guys think.

 

[unknown522]

I like men.

 

[Wake]

I'm just gonna assume that that's David.

 

[Roboturner]

who wants a backwards apple?

 

[Bones0]

Bidoof transformed into Unown!

 

[ShroudedOne]

That was exceedingly clever, Bones.

 

[genkaku]

constantly approaching is the best way to play this game

 

[Rubyiris]

crystal beasts sucks blackwings r where its at

A. Whether or not they were good or not wasn't the topic at hand.

B. Unless something super radical happened this list, bw has been garbage since 2011. I loved dominating my locals/on dgz with be though.

 

[Prince_Abu]

A. Whether or not they were good or not wasn't the topic at hand.

B. Unless something super radical happened this list, bw has been garbage since 2011. I loved dominating my locals/on dgz with be though.

loool i havent played since like 2010

 

[ShroudedOne]

constantly approaching is the best way to play this game

Yes, but it's extremely difficult to do. And it's way more costly if you mess up. Also, not every character has the means to do this effectively on a competitive level.

 

[Rubyiris]

There are characters other than falco?

 

[Wake]

There are characters other than falco?

I'm not sure if you would call them "characters" exactly.

 

[Bones0]

The best part about approaching a lot is you can bait sooooo much more easily when you DO decide to play defensive. That's why Mango's DD is so much scarier than everyone else's. He rushes you down all game, and just when you think he's committing to another approach he waits and punishes your counter-attack/defensive option. Of course this also works the other way with players like Hbox. He spaces bairs defensively then swoops in when you're sure he isn't approaching. Conditioning at its finest.

 

[Niko45]

Good stuff Bones. It's really good to disrespect a lot of the time. Even if you know what you're doing isn't technically safe, if they don't call you on it you're gonna get paid. The Falcos who get scared and roll/sidestep a lot, at least against Marth, are the easiest by far cause despite being scared and not knowing what to do they're not even at the very least throwing out Falco's good hitboxes hoping they'll catch. Stuff like wake up dair can ****.

 

[KUSH.]

Damn that is a really good point Bones, I've never thought of it like that.

 

[Beat!]

Falcos who roll/sidestep a lot make the matchup feel so free. I completely agree with both Bones and Niko.

 

[JPOBS]

the new metagame for wake up on knockdown and tech is offense

stand -> uptilt
tech roll -> dash attack
tech in place -> dair

un****ing-beatable

defensive options like rolling/spotdodging are left in 2011. #leanmelee.

 

[KirbyKaze]

what about options like shine that can be used offensively and defensively?

 

[JPOBS]

didnt think i needed to mention wake up-> shine. That should already be bnb

 

[KirbyKaze]

shine through their ground move and then convert it into a combo

 

[Bones0]

I prefer comboing get-up-attack into fsmash.

 

[FoxLisk]

I prefer comboing get-up-attack into fsmash.

neutral tech -> fsmash is whats up

 

[L__]

I HATE FIGHTING SHEIK OMG SO gEYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

 

[unknown522]

I'm just gonna assume that that's David.

****ing David -_-

 

[EthereaL]

I had something constructive to say, but then...

constantly approaching is the best way to play this game

Yes

...

 

[AvengerAngel]

****ing David -_-

I'm just gonna assume that that's David.

Doing random things after teching is broken. Tech in place > Fsmash gets a lot of Marfs that are trying to DD around your shine/utilt/spot dodge/roll and it makes them feel like nubs
Also tech in place > Dtilt. Omg Dtilt is broken D:

 

[Rubyiris]

i love fighting shiek.

 

[genkaku]

it is weird watching old vids on like, corneria or mute city.

 

[unknown522]

I HATE FIGHTING SHEIK OMG SO gEYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

****ing David. Why is he soooo gayyy?