Project M Social Thread

[Mr.Pickle]

STFU. please. It wasn't funny/amusing the first time.

Dude just ignore him, you don't have to make a post every time he posts something you find annoying.

 

[Sora-kun]

Lol, try harder. I learnt to wave-shine in a few hours and I don't even main Fox.

I managed to wave shine twice after trying for 2 minutes or so.
Am i pro yet?

But like, if the RAR "buffing" people becomes stupid (unlikely) then couldn't they just make it so some people can only RAR later in their turn around animations? (like how in melee if you jump during it you don't turn around.)

 

[felipe_9595]

can anybody send me a leaked version of project M please via an PM :3?????

 

[UltiMario]

can anybody send me a leaked version of project M please via an PM :3?????

Absolutely not.

All but 1 Project M version out there are too outdated for it to even be worth playing at this point, and nobody's going to get their hands on that 1.

 

[Flynn360]

can anybody send me a leaked version of project M please via an PM :3?????

dude USE your patience the project will be out when its out

 

[kaizo13]

Felipe 9595 I got a leaked version but it's a bit outdated.....if you still want it, just PM me your name, social security number and your credit card info.

you should get it in the mail within a week

 

[Eternal Yoshi]

dude USE your patience the project will be out when its out

This is the best post in a while, which might be because there isn't much to discuss that isn't involved with the balance phase.

 

[felipe_9595]

dude USE your patience the project will be out when its out

i cant wait anymore XDDDD

A question devs, the 8 and 9 of january we ar gonna have our SSB National torunament (Chile), can we get a test version for this tournament???

http://www.smashbroschile.cl/foros/...-20-inscripciones-aqui/page__view__getnewpost

 

[I R MarF]

You just made up a random list of characters that should have reverse ledge-grabs without any reason or justification as to why only these select few should have it. :/

LOL Random list? Fox, Falco, DK, Bowser, Falcon, Dorf, Link, and Yink could all reverse ledge grab in melee. Wolf is justified by being a spacie and Ike/Kirby have their fancy up-b meteors. I figured the list was self expanatory.

 

[zxeon]

dude USE your patience the project will be out when its out

This is the best post in a while, which might be because there isn't much to discuss that isn't involved with the balance phase.

I thought you can only either practice or have patience.

 

[Flynn360]

I thought you can only either practice or have patience.

u can do both :D

 

[Grim Tuesday]

being able to do it consistantly under pressure is a different thing, not to mention that you require perfect wavedashes to do it, and it has to be done quick enough that the opponent cant escape.

That takes more than a few hours...

I managed to wave shine twice after trying for 2 minutes or so.
Am i pro yet?

I can wave-shine consistently (I do screw up occasionally, but only once or twice a match). I can do it in matches and I can link it into other things including another wave-shine.

It really isn't any more difficult than doing a standard wave-dash, the button input is the same aside from an extra down-b at the start.

It might be worth mentioning that I jump with the control stick... Not sure if that makes it any easier.

 

[Sora-kun]

I can wave-shine consistently (I do screw up occasionally, but only once or twice a match). I can do it in matches and I can link it into other things including another wave-shine.

It really isn't any more difficult than doing a standard wave-dash, the button input is the same aside from an extra down-b at the start.

It might be worth mentioning that I jump with the control stick... Not sure if that makes it any easier.

I don't use fawkx or falcoh so.. Link and Marth can't rly wave shine @_@

I should practice it.. mastering it helps with finger dexterity rite?
I'd also think using the control stick is harder <_> but i'm sure you already knew that and yer just bragging.
-has the technical ability of a fish-

 

[Grim Tuesday]

I don't use fawkx or falcoh so.. Link and Marth can't rly wave shine @_@

I should practice it.. mastering it helps with finger dexterity rite?
I'd also think using the control stick is harder <_> but i'm sure you already knew that and yer just bragging.
-has the technical ability of a fish-

I wasn't bragging, I know that Lovage uses the control stick for wave-shining too.

It's easier in the sense that your right hand is free to do whatever and you'd have less to think about while doing it.

But it's harder because you need to be faster.

 

[Sora-kun]

I wasn't bragging, I know that Lovage uses the control stick for wave-shining too.

It's easier in the sense that your right hand is free to do whatever and you'd have less to think about while doing it.

But it's harder because you need to be faster.

Ya i know you weren't @_@ i was kidding
-internetsarcasmiseasytodetect-
I'm not fast enough to attempt it like that i bet =_= I'll have to try.

 

[Eternal Yoshi]

I have a simple question to the PM team:
Would it be possible for you guys to put in an indication for when you Meteor Cancel?
Brawl doesn't have any and Melee has 2:

A Big Whoosh sound
Blinking white for a few frames

Would it be possible to put in either of those as indicators?

 

[Lovage]

I wasn't bragging, I know that Lovage uses the control stick for wave-shining too.

It's easier in the sense that your right hand is free to do whatever and you'd have less to think about while doing it.

But it's harder because you need to be faster.

nah i don't use stick for waveshines

*namesearchin*

 

[Deleted member]

It is equal in the respect that everyone gets it.

It isn't equal in the respect that some characters have more use for it.

Agreed.

Both of those are also traits of wave-dashing and to a lesser extent, L-cancelling. if you remove RAR, you should also remove wave-dashing and l-cancelling.

Disagree. This is not my point and you and I both know that this generalized conclusion is just wrong.

My point is that it may be in the best interest of the project to facilitate certain worse characters with the new ATs and leave them absent in the midst of top/high tier characters.

However good the top tier characters are, they will be better with these techniques. This presents a problem while trying to bridge the gap of balance when adjusting lower tier characters to their level. That previous level of Melee Fox doesn't exist. It is now Fox 2.0 and consequently is better than Melee Fox.

I understand this is the aim of the project, however I, personally fail to see the need to change Fox/Falco/Jiggs/Sheik/Marth. For other characters, I see a very clear and obvious need to change.

End of topic. Don't want to beat a dead horse.

 

[genkaku]

I've come to the conclusion that whenever I come across the phrase "your/my point" it's best to stop reading, 'cause it's just going to be a long and fruitless argument that does nothing to expand on earlier posts.

 

[Sneak8288]

lol i have actually seen the leaked version that is out... someone brought it to a smashfest. its not even worth it lol trust me. compared to everything that has been updated since that your pretty much only cheating yourself.

 

[Zef]

Sneak
the leaker didn't include the codes folder thats why
they had to make it themself.



edit;
probably used old brawl+ codes LOL.

 

[Grim Tuesday]

nah i don't use stick for waveshines

*namesearchin*

Huh, I could've sworn you said that xD

Nevermind then.

 

[Sneak8288]

Sneak
the leaker didn't include the codes folder thats why
they had to make it themself.



edit;
probably used old brawl+ codes LOL.

this is actually completely wrong.. it was just a earlier version of the game. There has just been a billion revisions since then. I remember when that version was actually pretty new but that was a while ago. The new one is way better tho in alot of ways

 

[Zef]

Oh. The leak I found has no codes folder, yea

 

[Vigilante]

Patience is a virtue. If we want a quality product, we must allow them appropriate time to make it. Waiting's tough, but the more we wait, the more things they fix and improve. SO you could say that the tradeoff for for time spent waiting is a better experience at the end.

 

[Deleted member]

Out of curiosity, have you tried contacting some of the people who worked to make Melee/Brawl about fixing things like landing detection? They might have some insight into it.

 

[ConnorTheKid]

.......LOL





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[Vigilante]

To be honest, I highly doubt they would answer the question knowing what they are going to do. I don't think they'd look highly at helping poeple hack their game because it's not good enough.

 

[kaizo13]

lawl


2funny

 

[Gowa]

.......LOL





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"Gowa likes this"

 

[Dantarion]

Stop talking about leaks. They all suck.

I actually played some of r1, AKA revision 1, the oldest version of Project M inside our change tracking software, and BOY have we come a long way.

 

[Vigilante]

Be nice to Puu guys. His ideas might not be feasible, but he's trying his best to help x_x.

And to support Dantarion's claims. Go on youtube, compare early videos to new videos. The differences are very easy to spot. Just organize the videos by date or something.

Although I hate to give these idiots publicity, here is a leaked version video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyVGGC3OJS8

Compare this to the newer Project M videos. It's night and day.

 

[ConnorTheKid]

MY EYEEEES

they're so bad Q_Q


leakers suck

 

[Strong Badam]

My point is that it may be in the best interest of the project to facilitate certain worse characters with the new ATs and leave them absent in the midst of top/high tier characters.

However good the top tier characters are, they will be better with these techniques. This presents a problem while trying to bridge the gap of balance when adjusting lower tier characters to their level. That previous level of Melee Fox doesn't exist. It is now Fox 2.0 and consequently is better than Melee Fox.

I understand this is the aim of the project, however I, personally fail to see the need to change Fox/Falco/Jiggs/Sheik/Marth. For other characters, I see a very clear and obvious need to change.

End of topic. Don't want to beat a dead horse.

universal AT's improve everyone. yeah, Fox can now RAR bair, but so can Ness and Pikachu. universal AT's add layers of depth to the game and restricting them to certain characters for the purpose of balancing is silly when we can balance in other ways without messing with the game's competitive depth.

 

[Darkji]

Hmm... What does RAR(ing) and AT's mean ?

 

[Grim Tuesday]

Hmm... What does RAR(ing) and AT's mean ?

RAR stands for reverse aerial rush. Google it.

AT stands for advance technique.

 

[Strong Badam]

Reverse Aerial Rush is when you jump during RunTurn (thereby turning around and jumping seamlessly from a run) and perform an attack, usually a Back Aerial.

 

[Darkji]

@GrimFandango : Thanks. I googled "RAR SSBM" cause I thought it was a Melee "AT" and I found nothing.
And I thought AT meant "Assis Trophy" -_-

@Strong Bad : Thank for your explanation which is much clear.

 

[Demon-oni]

Oi, uumm I'm not sure if this guy is a playtester or what, but I'm seeing some vids on youtube released today that look outdated.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gInKJa1jpJU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EhpYTNxHvI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeDSQXCofcw

Edit: I wasn't sure if it was a leak or something. If you guys are cool with it, I'll leave it be.

 

[Grim Tuesday]

Here is his SWF profile: http://www.smashboards.com/member.php?u=171025&vmid=643471#vmessage643471