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Scar talks Lean Melee [2012YotF]
- Thread starter Scar
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Divinokage
Smash Legend
Let's give the title to Hax, Sheik Slayer lol.
Scar
#HarveyDent
wow that's completely false
i have always gone 2-1/3-1 vs M2K's sheik, iirc i've beaten him like 3 times (he ***** me @ genesis 2-0)
hax has beaten M2K's sheik in pools
imo SS is the worst vs sheik he's just really ****ing smart
ChivalRuse
Smash Hero
Wow. So Sheik is mad beatable now. It's like match-ups sway based on top Falcons' say-so. Lol.
Roneblaster
Smash Hero
vs marth fun
vs fox gay
vs falco gay
vs sheik gay
vs jiggs gay
vs falcon Reneblade Specialty?
vs fox gay
vs falco gay
vs sheik gay
vs jiggs gay
vs falcon Reneblade Specialty?
AxelSlam
Smash Ace
vs marth - gay
vs fox - whack as ****
vs jiggs - alright
vs sheik - stupid
vs falco - ****
vs fox - whack as ****
vs jiggs - alright
vs sheik - stupid
vs falco - ****
Divinokage
Smash Legend
How about vs Ganon? =P Can you defeat me!?
What a joke talk to Darkrain.
Excluding M2K, Darkrain is the best vs Sheik and always has been.
Divinokage
Smash Legend
TheManaLord
Smash Hero
it's fun and easy v all characters
because combos are so easy like the other chars have to do a lot more work all we do is dd and grab combo come on guys such babies
because combos are so easy like the other chars have to do a lot more work all we do is dd and grab combo come on guys such babies
Divinokage
Smash Legend
Genesis, perhaps?
Or wait.. was that SS..
Or wait.. was that SS..
Roneblaster
Smash Hero
genesis was SS
GamerGuitarist7
Smash Champion
i think s2j is the best vs shiek.
/thread
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legion598
Smash Ace
scar is pretty darn good vs shiek I wouldnt count him out
IMO
marth>kinda fun, not impossible
peach>very fun, nowhere near impossible
fox>could be fun if fox didnt camp all the time>not quite impossible
shiek>I kinda like fighting shiek, not impossible IMO unless its FD or something stupid
puff>not fun at all but also one of the easier MUs in high tier
I didnt even include falco because hes such a ****ing ****** *** ***** mother ****eer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! definately impossible
ganon>no joke
IMO
marth>kinda fun, not impossible
peach>very fun, nowhere near impossible
fox>could be fun if fox didnt camp all the time>not quite impossible
shiek>I kinda like fighting shiek, not impossible IMO unless its FD or something stupid
puff>not fun at all but also one of the easier MUs in high tier
I didnt even include falco because hes such a ****ing ****** *** ***** mother ****eer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! definately impossible
ganon>no joke
The 3 biggest falcons are so close in most matchups I guess its silly to try to distinguish.
The only thing I feel like I can say for sure is Dark is the worst vs ICs and the best vs Falcon.
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Deleted member
Guest
Falco is in my opinion the easiest out of Fox/Falco/Shiek
u have to hit them like 4 times and then stomp knee
trading d-air with up-air is amazing since 60% falco equals 120% falcon
the only problem is if falco does everything in his power to be a douchebag, otherwise its not too bad
tech chasing is not bad either, even though falco rolls a little longer 80% of falcos will spot dodge so u just knee in place
u have to hit them like 4 times and then stomp knee
trading d-air with up-air is amazing since 60% falco equals 120% falcon
the only problem is if falco does everything in his power to be a douchebag, otherwise its not too bad
tech chasing is not bad either, even though falco rolls a little longer 80% of falcos will spot dodge so u just knee in place
Cort
Apple Head
Tomacawk
Smash Master
I also think falco is easier than fox and falcon
I think fox is not that bad unless you're on a small map like yoshi's, then it's just insanely hard but never impossible
shiek players for some reason suck when they're scared so that matchup is also doable
a composed shiek is pretty impossible though
I think fox is not that bad unless you're on a small map like yoshi's, then it's just insanely hard but never impossible
shiek players for some reason suck when they're scared so that matchup is also doable
a composed shiek is pretty impossible though
Roneblaster
Smash Hero
scar/darkrain/hax/ss we've seen it before cort, @ P4.
picture is toooo good though
got a serious question for you guys
what do you guys do to retain momentum? In a couple of my shout-out matches Im up 4 Stocks to 2 then when the match is over its either a 1stock win or i have 2stocks high %. should i be more DD campy when im in the lead or should I keep up what aggressivness got me to the 2 stock lead?
picture is toooo good though
got a serious question for you guys
what do you guys do to retain momentum? In a couple of my shout-out matches Im up 4 Stocks to 2 then when the match is over its either a 1stock win or i have 2stocks high %. should i be more DD campy when im in the lead or should I keep up what aggressivness got me to the 2 stock lead?
Scar
#HarveyDent
hits got you the 2-stock lead, not aggressiveness, just bc you got lucky doesn't mean it's going to happen again, and generally if you got hits from being aggressive you did get lucky (or your opponent isn't very good)
so yes, be more campy, you can keep momentum and keep your opponents scared and on the defensive without ever attacking or even really approaching
CF has **** momentum until you commit to a move, and then depending on what happens you either **** or you lost all your momentum, so keep your options open until you can commit to something guaranteed or safe
so yes, be more campy, you can keep momentum and keep your opponents scared and on the defensive without ever attacking or even really approaching
CF has **** momentum until you commit to a move, and then depending on what happens you either **** or you lost all your momentum, so keep your options open until you can commit to something guaranteed or safe
legion598
Smash Ace
TheManaLord
Smash Hero
play safer and get your hits. if your opponent doesnt disrupt your flow you will keep your momentum, and once you get successful grabs/hits/combos your momentum will keep building. falcon is a fast char but he has to play mad safe to be awesome. more dd'ing
always dd more xD
jetfour
Smash Journeyman
I'm not a campy player :D If you close in space well, mix up your nairs/uairs/stomps/overshot weak knees/retreating bairs/grabs from powershields/wavedash backwards/dding, you'll be fine.
I think the ease of the match-ups is Falco<Pika<Fox<Sheik. Falco's too easy to gimp and techchase. Pika is outspaceable with aerials (except knee
) if you're patient. Fox is a ***** with his nair train and edgeguarding. Sheik is just a **** with near effortless zero-to-deaths on stage.
I think the ease of the match-ups is Falco<Pika<Fox<Sheik. Falco's too easy to gimp and techchase. Pika is outspaceable with aerials (except knee
) if you're patient. Fox is a ***** with his nair train and edgeguarding. Sheik is just a **** with near effortless zero-to-deaths on stage.
trahhSTEEZY
Smash Champion
lol wowowowow amazing
Roneblaster
Smash Hero
thanks scarduzio/TML/sandbag i mean Jetfour
I don't think Nipple Spike can be MC'ed
ok what do you do if you have the momentum vs falco, you cant DD camp. I know the obvious answer is platform camp, but its not like thats fool proof. (I ban FD against falco, IDK about you guys)
I don't think Nipple Spike can be MC'ed
ok what do you do if you have the momentum vs falco, you cant DD camp. I know the obvious answer is platform camp, but its not like thats fool proof. (I ban FD against falco, IDK about you guys)
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Deleted member
Guest
DON't Ban FD vs Falco (imo)
the falcon secret to stomping dum falcos on FD is to full hop fast-fall n-air across the screen as they laser camp like a n00b
g-regulate
Smash Hero
i don't feel that my greatness has been emphasized enough
It would be if you were coming to POE3. All the old-schoolers will be there to cheer you on.
Utilt?
I wouldn't ban it against Falco personally because everything is simplified, and Falco can do more useful things with platforms, but some Falcos have better FD combo gamez. (Think Darkrain vs. Zhu 2)
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Deleted member
Guest
if they uptilt smash DI it so you go half way across the screen and don't get comboed
it's good though trust me but not when you are being stupidly obvious
it's good though trust me but not when you are being stupidly obvious
last time i checked a 15 year old took your color and ***** harder then you
Roneblaster
Smash Hero
OHHHHHHHHHHHHHH DAYUMMMMMMMMMMMM
jona throwing down the gauntlet.
greg is fun though jona, so dont be too srs.
jona throwing down the gauntlet.
greg is fun though jona, so dont be too srs.
I lolll'ed =)
Infinitora
Smash Journeyman
Nipple spikes cannot be cancelled, but it's fairly difficult to land them intentionally... I've been working on different grab and tilt combos to nipple gimps at different percentages right now, not impossible just difficult.