Scar talks Lean Melee [2012YotF]

[philbobjoe]

just watch drephen and remember that whatever move you were thinking of doing, throw it out the window and dsmash

As awesome as Drephen is, I would recommend KDJ over him.

 

[pockyD]

just look at what characters typically 'dominate' at the competitive level under the highest; 'dominate' not like getting first regularly, but 'dominate' as in consistently taking up like half of the top spots... it will always be fox or falco

sheik dominates until people learn the basic techs (and especially learn how to DI), which is honestly pretty low on the competitive ladder

the characters of the top players regionally typically vary, because when there's a skill gap, they can overcome character ability, but when you get to the typical jumbled mass of similarly-skilled players, more often than not, it is mostly foxes and falcos

 

[Hax]

yo scar, your thread name made my ****ing day

 

[demodemo]

i dont know where to look for a cf matchup chart, and i think it would be a lot easier to find the answer here, so yeah

how is the cf vs ganon matchup? I was ****** my friend today for like 3 hours, and im beginning to think it's just because of the matchup. I find that it is just soo easy to combo him, nair ***** him like crazy, and i can chaingrab him at low percents. However, a couple of weeks before i was getting ***** by his insane priority+range aerials. I'm pretty sure the matchup is in falcon's favour, but by how much?

 

[Rubyiris]

Falcon is one of ganons worst matchups, if not his worst.

 

[JonaDiaper]

As awesome as Drephen is, I would recommend KDJ over him.

this is true, i was watching mlg long island 07 m2k vs kdj and i realized what a beast he was.

 

[Cia]

is true that the Falcon:GaW match us is 4:6??

 

[DrewB008]

no hahahaha

just dthrow 15 times in a row and knee

 

[JonaDiaper]

is it true that puerto rico is a country?

same answer

 

[demodemo]

Falcon is one of ganons worst matchups, if not his worst.

and here i was thinking i was getting good

 

[DrewB008]

kage is really good vs falcon

its unsettling when you play him

 

[NES n00b]

kage is really good vs falcon

its unsettling when you play him

He definitely does better than most Ganons.........fighting against most Ganons is so easy it can be considered brain dead (due to nair beating **** everything and the stupid broken punishment game Falcon has), but he definitely makes you work for it.

 

[Cia]

i think Hax$ ***** him

but he is really good, i had him in my pound 3 pool, and he forced me to play the "sheik" card

 

[Rubyiris]

no he got 3-0'd in a MM.

Hax did i mean

 

[Divinokage]

Ganon's worst matchup falcon? Hell no, lol. Ganon's Nair beats Falcon's Nair, also backair. As a standard, in the low percentage I try to stay on falcon to keep pressure and if i get comboed at more than 50%, I have to DI away to avoid it. If I can get a falcon off stage, he's dead unless I miss. Other than that, I just space hits and try to time Nairs or Fairs into falcon. And using forward B to space too is fun =P.

Hax 4-2 me at Pound 3 in a 20$ MM.
But I 3-0 him at Clash of titans 4, 10$ MM.

Ganon worst matchup would either spacies, with the same ratio then Sheik.. and then like marth/falcon. IMO.

But I consider myself a falcon slayer because my friend used to be much better than me and he played falcon and for months I've been trying to beat him with Ganon and eventually we got even lol. This is like at least 3-4 years ago and we got better together as a local team for a long time. And then came Pound 3 eventually.. and from there the US started to know me. =)

 

[JonaDiaper]

did you say spacies as in both fox and falco?
cuz ganon ***** falco so bad its pathetic...i dont understand how...but it happens... so its like just fox

 

[PB&J]

kage is really good vs falcon

its unsettling when you play him

he did ok vs darkrain but gawes and cornel beat him easy,but they play chaddd so the know exactly how to **** ganon..so dont mind what i just said ..if u play falcon correctly ganon can only wait for bad spacing from falcon




anyway..im picking up falcon can u tell...and i really want to know every little thing i can do to marth and i mean everything..please

 

[DrewB008]

ganon can do nasty **** to falcos that mess up, but overall falco has the advantage for sure jona, i agree with kage's order

pb&j there are some good posts about marth in this thread somewhere, i might find them for you later but if you just scan back some pages you'll find some

 

[JonaDiaper]

i thought he was a soft counter to falco..well thats what i heard...and mango said it lol

 

[DrewB008]

mango says a lot of things

 

[JonaDiaper]

yea and then he wins pound 3

 

[DrewB008]

no

he won pound 3, and then said a lot of things

 

[Scar]

no

he won pound 3, and then said a lot of things

lmao Yeah actually I had never heard of mango before then.

 

[DrewB008]

im sure you heard about him after evo world championships

he beat m2k and chillin there, got 3rd behind ken and hugs

 

[Scar]

i heard more about how it was a 1-match set on a random neutral lol

m2k (sheik) vs mango (jiggs) on DL64. wow.

 

[Dark_Crono]

yeah and still beat him in pound 3.

 

[DrewB008]

scar how big will alukard's melee tourney on march 7th be

 

[pockyD]

i heard mango got 4 and 3-stocked by shadowbtzo at oc3

 

[DrewB008]

mango lost to vist at pound 3 in pools

vist used luigi

 

[Scar]

scar how big will alukard's melee tourney on march 7th be

Probably all of tristate but if you/other MW players want to go we could prob get new england down, and canada randomly shows up for stuff too, we'd just have to hype it up

the ANMC one pulled in like 65 for singles.

 

[DrewB008]

65 is pretty good

i just saw it was at a toy store or something and the posts all seemed like it was looking local, but its on the first weekend of my spring break so i might be able to swing by

 

[Divinokage]

gawes and cornel beat who, me or darkrain? Lol.. in their dreams maybe.. I ***** them easily.

Yes, go Vist!! haha.

Scar, if you want to rematch at genesis or before that perhaps.. I'm up for it. And how many singles or doubles match did you record?

 

[NES n00b]

gawes and cornel beat who, me or darkrain? Lol.. in their dreams maybe.. I ***** them easily.

Yes, go Vist!! haha.

Scar, if you want to rematch at genesis or before that perhaps.. I'm up for it. And how many singles or doubles match did you record?

Oh ****....people just got called out. Me and Ali got you next time.

 

[MaNg0]

dam i remember when i was

losing 2 randoms in pools

*** POOLS lol

 

[Rubyiris]

gawes and cornel beat him easy



anyway..im picking up falcon can u tell...and i really want to know every little thing i can do to marth and i mean everything..please

lollllll

.

 

[Divinokage]

Oh ****....people just got called out. Me and Ali got you next time.

No you don't! Except if you have enough spirit! =D One thing I hate is when lies spread around like Mooney saying going even with me!? Also me losing to a mewtwo? lol.. **** rumors, go away!!

Also Mango, MM my Ganon vs your falcon at Genesis? =D

 

[Scar]

65 is pretty good

i just saw it was at a toy store or something and the posts all seemed like it was looking local, but its on the first weekend of my spring break so i might be able to swing by

**** that would be awesome

Scar, if you want to rematch at genesis or before that perhaps.. I'm up for it. And how many singles or doubles match did you record?

absolutely and 5 singles matches w/ us (the MM) and basically all of the teams matches of me and hax

No you don't! Except if you have enough spirit! =D One thing I hate is when lies spread around like Mooney saying going even with me!? Also me losing to a mewtwo? lol.. **** rumors, go away!!

Also Mango, MM my Ganon vs your falcon at Genesis? =D

lol yeah people say **** that's blatantly not true. comes w/ the territory.

also Mango's falcon might beat your ganon lol he's not a true falcon player and might not get ***** by your ridiculous spacing b/c of that

 

[Cosmo!]

m2k lost to chillin to get knocked out of evo no johnz

 

[The___cheese]

What do you guys think of uthrow to Falcon kick on Falco at 130%?

 

[MaNg0]

Im not a true ne thing

But a puff at heart

at the end of the day