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Scar talks Lean Melee [2012YotF]

CanISmash

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I knew that you had to hit the button(L , for argument's sake) before you hit the wall in order to get the tech. I just thought that you had to press it AFTER you got hit, but BEFORE, you hit the wall. Say if I'm up B'ing, and there is a Falco waiting for me at the ledge with a Dair. Pressing L while I'm in mid air would essentially do nothing b/c I have already used my recovery move; only after I get hit with the Dair am I "reset" to a state where I can be able to tech. That's the point where I would need to press L, so I can tech off of the wall.

^^ I'm not trying to argue my point here, b/c you are obviously right. I was just explaining the logic that lead me to believe that you had to press L in that VERY small window.
by the time you get hit by a wall you would need a reaction speed that humans do not have :laugh: think of it as buffering it and predicting when you will get hit near the wall. you press l only a few moments before getting hit
 

_kSo_

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by the time you get hit by a wall you would need a reaction speed that humans do not have :laugh: think of it as buffering it and predicting when you will get hit near the wall. you press l only a few moments before getting hit
yesss someone finally said the magic word

thank you.



CanIsma-

NO!!!!!

i also laughed at this after i posted....it was ninja'd right before mine, too haha
 

Scar

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ya idc if he beats me lol i'll give him the money

i just am pretty sure he's gonna get *****

edit: just found out he wants to do it in like 4 months rofl i'm about to drive down to the next socal tourney to collect
 

PB&J

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i heard he plays spacies now..i guess hes going to go train now..nando and scar are going to tap dance on his face..lol

the people's champ cant lose son
 

Da Shuffla

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by the time you get hit by a wall you would need a reaction speed that humans do not have :laugh: think of it as buffering it and predicting when you will get hit near the wall. you press l only a few moments before getting hit
^^ The idea that I am "buffering" the tech really does help. This explains why I was so awful at ledge-techs. Thanks.
 

Wenbobular

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How were you doing regular techs then? The timing is the exact same ...

Just gotta do that visualization haha
 

Wenbobular

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Has anyone ever tried techchasing by looking at your opponent's controller? Falcon has a pretty **** dashdance so you can basically cover everything if you knew where you were going, and even then a running Dair covers a pretty big region so you have that margin of error to work with

....? Thoughts?

I'm ********?
 

Wenbobular

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Naw I suck too much for that.
:bee:
But yeah, I can never cover tech in place unless I guess it. ~_~
 

CaptainNanD0

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What i do to cover tech in place is once i downthrow/upthrow them i just knee in place if they tech in place it hits if they don't you still have time to react to their other techs and grab them again
 

Wenbobular

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I think I'm just super interested in tech chasing while looking at their controller haha
My roommate mentioned it to me a while ago and I got to thinking about it now

@ Nando
I can never knee fast enough <_<
 

GamerGuitarist7

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What i do to cover tech in place is once i downthrow/upthrow them i just knee in place if they tech in place it hits if they don't you still have time to react to their other techs and grab them again
i honestly don't think that is frame perfect because then we would be doing it ALL the time and falcon vs spacies wouldn't suck so bad.
 

Da Shuffla

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How were you doing regular techs then? The timing is the exact same ...

Just gotta do that visualization haha
I was doing regular techs like normal. Ledge-teching was the issue.

In an earlier post, I explained why I thought I had to press L between getting hit, and hitting the wall.
 

_kSo_

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I'm pretty sure there is some spacing for the dair that catches them out of tech away, but it still is close enough that it can cover tech in place/no tech...i've seen many falcons including scar do this in matches, and it looks like the spacing for it covers 3 options, which is just bonkers.

dun think it works on sheik though....kuz sheik is just a sheik.
 

Nakamaru

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there may be a spot where if you just DI back it'll hit neutral/no tech, and if you do nothing you'll get the rolling tech, but thats just speculation. I feel like ive done it before, but just blowing smoke.

BTW peach matchup tips? Mainly wtf do i do against her pressure, her dash attack, and when she is floating in the air. I always trade at best, or get hit and combo'd. : /
 

Tomacawk

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I'm pretty sure there is some spacing for the dair that catches them out of tech away, but it still is close enough that it can cover tech in place/no tech...i've seen many falcons including scar do this in matches, and it looks like the spacing for it covers 3 options, which is just bonkers.

dun think it works on sheik though....kuz sheik is just a sheik.
there is a way to time and space the stomp where you can option select (probably improperly used here) a tech in place/tech towards you. short hop in the middle and start the dair at a point early enough to catch a tech in place yet late enough to catch a tech away. Aerial influence yourself towards whatever option they do
 
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