Smash Bros. Canon Tournament! (Mario Vs. ????) - 06/14/10

[YesNoMaybeSo]

Sonic is too pro.

 

[BSP]

so kirby does get to start the battle with an ability? If yes, Sonic should be able to start the battle hyper, and hit him before he can turn into a stone...

What's the start-up time on stone? or could someone post a vid with it, cause im not too familiar with it.

 

[REL38]

so kirby does get to start the battle with an ability? If yes, Sonic should be able to start the battle hyper, and hit him before he can turn into a stone...

What's the start-up time on stone? or could someone post a vid with it, cause im not too familiar with it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYUvoIWPprk

It's actually alot faster than I remembered O__o

But I'm opposed to Sonic starting the match as Super.
Kirby can bring in an ability, but he still needs to go through the animation to turn into Stone.
Sonic has the ability to go Super, but still needs to go through the animation to turn Super.

The result is Kirby getting the Stone out faster.

 

[BSP]

ok, it's looking like this might be a tie then, because if he deactivates stone, he gets owned, but he can stay in it forever, so nothing happens...

 

[orange/xd]

S0n1c iz 2 fa5t

 

[Eternal Yoshi]

No, it wouldn't stop Sonic from going Super. He just has to be near the emeralds to go Super, he doesn't actually have to be touching them.

I would like to point out that Kirby's stomach is another dimension so if a Chaos emerald goes there, it's out of range.

I don't think Stone can last forever though. Isn't there a time limit on stone like 5 seconds or something in Kirby Super Star?

Also, I remember that grab based enemy abilities were able to grab him out of stone.

 

[Monkey Wrench]

Nope. Kirby can hold stone as long as he wants.

 

[Eternal Yoshi]

It's a shame that Sonic doesn't have grab based abilities in his games.

 

[missingnomaster]

Why go Stone? Metal makes Kirby invincible too, but he's constantly invincible, and can move around (though slowly)

 

[Crystanium]

Kirby Air Ride strongly decreased the speed on all Air Ride Machines if you can see the game play, poor things can't even fly, but glide. );

I can't speak for the rest of the Air Ride Machine, but the Warp Star is able to move very fast, speed to go to other planets very quick.

Notice I brought up the part where Kirby broke the sound barrier. That's a transition from transonic to supersonic speed (Mach 0.8 to Mach 1.2).

Anyway, this one looks like a tie.

 

[Ray_Kalm]

How is it a tie when Sonic's emeralds eventually run out?

 

[Crystanium]

How is it a tie when Sonic's emeralds eventually run out?

Kirby uses his Stone ability. Sonic waits for Kirby to return to his normal form. Sonic attacks if Kirby resumes his normal form. Not to mention, Sonic moves way too fast for Kirby to do anything to him.

 

[Ray_Kalm]

So, there's no way for Sonic to overpower Stone Kirby?

 

[Crystanium]

So, there's no way for Sonic to overpower Stone Kirby?

Seems like Kirby is invincible during that time.

 

[Ray_Kalm]

The question is, exactly how 'much' invincible?

 

[WhatIsRaizen?]

Okay, new match-up.

Vs.

Current Match-Up:
THE BRAVE WARRIOR Vs. THE MALLET PENGUIN

King Dedede Vs. Ike

Vs.

Round 2, Match 7

Who will win? YOU decide!

Overall Results

Wins +2:

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Wins +1:

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Neutral:

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Loss -1:



Loss -2:

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[WhatIsRaizen?]

Keep in mind that Ike can not be harmed by anything that aren't one of the five weapons blessed by Ashera (one of them being Ragnell, his very own).

 

[Lovely]

Notice I brought up the part where Kirby broke the sound barrier. That's a transition from transonic to supersonic speed (Mach 0.8 to Mach 1.2).

Anyway, this one looks like a tie.

I might had miss that part. ;p

The question is, exactly how 'much' invincible?

Only game that Stone can be broken is if Stone is from Kirby 64, the rest of the Kirby games, Stone can't be broken unless someone that is a giant grabs him, (which has to be size of Bowser regular size hands to grab him out of stone).

New match up? I guess I'll go with Ike on this match, Dedede isn't strong enough for Ike.

 

[missingnomaster]

If Dedede can't harm Ike, then Ike wins.


Metal Kirby > Stone Kirby.

 

[Ray_Kalm]

There any chance of Dedede snatching Ike's sword? He seems strong enough to lift it.

 

[Crystanium]

The question is, exactly how 'much' invincible?

I'm not sure. I guess we moved onto another match-up.

 

[missingnomaster]

There any chance of Dedede snatching Ike's sword? He seems strong enough to lift it.

The sword would be a few times taller than Dedede, so I don't think he'll be taking it.

 

[PowerBomb]

I saw this, so lemme say something on it.

The Dragoon goes 55-90 mph in the air.

 

[Neo Exdeath]

Kirby is only 3 inches tall.

Dedede is twice the size of Kirby.

6 inches is twice the height of 3 inches.

It's safe to say that Dedede can't do much damage to Ike.

 

[§leepy God]

♪ I think Neo needs to look at the Kirby Wiki for Kirby's height. xD †

♪ King Dedede size is unknown to me, on some of the games his size seems to change, in the anime he's very much taller, I can't tell, lol. This might be a tough fight if it were Masked Dedede. †

 

[Eternal Yoshi]

Keep in mind that Ike can not be harmed by anything that aren't one of the five weapons blessed by Ashera (one of them being Ragnell, his very own).

What? If that's true then his games would be easy. Can you explain what gives him this immunity?

 

[Monkey Wrench]

Kirby is only 3 inches tall.

Dedede is twice the size of Kirby.

6 inches is twice the height of 3 inches.

It's safe to say that Dedede can't do much damage to Ike.

Kirby's 8in(20cm) tall. That makes Dedede at least 16in(40cm).

This might be a tough fight if it were Masked Dedede.

It would be if it weren't for that invincibility thing. There's a chance MDDD could knock Ike's sword from his hands; that metal hammer is very heavy, and given that Dedede handles it with no problem he's likely strong enough to go head to head with Ike, possibly enough to remove his sword.

 

[WhatIsRaizen?]

What? If that's true then his games would be easy. Can you explain what gives him this immunity?

He was blessed by a goddess, later in his game.

 

[Nidtendofreak]

What? If that's true then his games would be easy. Can you explain what gives him this immunity?

*sigh*

Every enemy he faces after the blessing in FE10 is also blessed.

It's not just 5 weapons, its anything or anyone blessed by the Goddesses when it comes to physical damage. For example, if a boxer was blessed, he'd be able to hurt Ike with his fists. But if a machine gunner wasn't blessed, the bullets wouldn't hurt him. But if the same machine gunner that wasn't blessed found a blessed sword dropped somewhere (not that it actually happens, just an example), and uses the sword on Ike, he could hurt Ike.

Since the FE universe has no method of mentally attacking a foe, it's safe to assume that the blessing only protects from physical damage (swords, bullets, ect), or magic that causes physical damage (Fire spell, Flux spell, ect). Meaning Ness/Lucas/Mewtwo would be able to go "lol mindrape". And Bowser with the Star Rod from Paper Mario may or may not be able to wish Ike to be unblessed, or to have a blessed weapon. That battle will be quite a headache. >_>

D3 has no blessed weapons or mental attacks. He's kinda screwed. And he can't really flee quickly (correct me if I'm wrong), so he can't tie either.

 

[Monkey Wrench]

Dedede has a Wheelie Bike from Kirby Airride, but I think that game was ruled non-canon.

 

[WhatIsRaizen?]

VS.

Quickly moving on.

Current Match-Up:
PRINCESS TOADSTOOL Vs. THE SOLID SOILDER

Peach Vs. Snake

Vs.

Round 2, Match 8.

Who will win? YOU decide!

Overall Results

Wins +2:

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Wins +1:

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Neutral:

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Loss -1:

, , :mewtwo:

Loss -2:

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[missingnomaster]

Snake will be surprised to find that he's not the only one with explosives.

Peach's Psyche Bomb will likely be more than a match for Snake.

If she needs to take cover, she's got her unbreakable parasol.

 

[PowerBomb]

Peach > Snake. She has all sorts of stuff that gives Snake headaches.

She can make him fall asleep and then hit him on the head with a frying pan.

That picture is awfully suggestive.

 

[Lord Viper]

☆ I'll say Peach just because of that picture. =3 ☆

 

[Nicole]

The Peach from Mario RPG is probably quite capable of beating up on Snake.She can heal herself and has some useful offensive magic too (the sleep spell in particular).

One grenade would probably kill her though, but Snake would probably not have a chance to use it unless he was able to sneak up on her.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Could be a draw then. Peach wins if they fight "fair" with her healing, magic attacks and parasol but Snake would deffinatly win if he is able to sneak up on Peach... Which I think wouldn't be so difficult seeing as she's constantly kidnapped by Bowser. <_<

EDIT: As for last match up. I agree that Ike wins but not for the reason why. He's not invincible from attacks. Besides, wasn't the blessing temporary? Why did he lose to Falcon then?

 

[Samochan]

Could be a draw then. Peach wins if they fight "fair" with her healing, magic attacks and parasol but Snake would deffinatly win if he is able to sneak up on Peach... Which I think wouldn't be so difficult seeing as she's constantly kidnapped by Bowser. <_<

Sneak on a neutral ground with absolutely no cover? =)

 

[PowerBomb]

Samochan, that smiley face annoys me for some reason. O_o

Why would Snake try and sneak on a battlefield where the two start by facing each other off to ensure neutrality?

 

[justaway12]

I use that smiley face all the time =)

Just not on this forum, for some reason >_>

Anyway, yeah, Peach wins, she has more/better options...

 

[WhatIsRaizen?]

Wondering, canonically, does Pokemon Trainer 'also' have Charizard, Squirtle, and Ivysaur?