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Is my Armaldo post alright?
he's supposed to be the best pokemon player in the city we live in, so yes he knows what EV's IV's are and knows about items and all that fancy stuff.
Can we ban someone from the poke center for this?
I know. I also have two extra sets I could also post. I might also get a few others up there as well.A_man, you should put in one if yours, really your not that bad. I know, your cacturne set
Bowser King
....because I suck. I know the basics and understand everything (unlike some people think >_>) but I'm not really up to date on whats good in the "meta-game". I don't want to post a moveset and find it gets ***** by all the good chars
Bowser King
What did you do to him/her
) he boosts his SDef which along with his already great Def and recovery move makes him a great mixed wall, and gives him awesome special power with a STAB'd Surf. Slowbro's resistances are very nice from predictable moves. It's generally quite easy to guess when you're opponent is going to use something like a Fire, Psychic, or Fighting attack (among others) which gives Slowbro a safe switch in. Goodbye Infernape!
General infereance. I know it can be a pain in the rear sometimes. The other two are probably more threatening, though.
Nice Gardevoir summery, I'll add more to it when I can think of them, I've got a status absorber Gardevoir, and in doubles, A scarfed Skill swap Gardevoir, might seem odd, but it skillswaps a Shedinja, then swap out the shedinja for a Spiritomb, and you have a legit Woundertomb, which will often just demolish entire teams by itself.Another one to add:
Screener
Gardevoir@Light Clay
Timid/Trace
160Hp/252Def/96Spe
-Light Screen
-Reflect
-HP Ground/Wish
-Wish/Thunder Wave/Thunderbolt/Protect
With Deoxys-S banned into ubers there's some new pokemon looking to fill the hole. This is my variation and it's worked quite well at this point. Trace is amazing on this Gardevoir as it lets you switch in on many types of pokemon with ease like Heatran and Vaporeon. In fact this thing loves Bulky Waters as none can deal that much damage to it and let it set up rather easily. The Speed EV's allow it to switch into Kingdra, trace it's Swift Swim and out speed it. HP Ground allows it to act as a solid Heatran counter but as this set is not made to be offensive you can drop it for even more team support. Wish allows it to be even more of a team player healing others on your team. If you drop HP Ground for wish then put Protect in the last slot which will let you set up screens, heal then survive to set up again if needed.
Choice
Gardevoir@Choice Scarf/Choice Specs
Modest/Trace
252SpAtk/252Spe/4Hp
-Thunderbolt
-HP Ice
-Psychic/Shadow Ball
-Trick/Focus Blast
Often overlooked in favor of her supporting abilities, Gardevoir is still a very capable special attacker with one real bonus over the likes of Azelf/Alakazam, access to Thunderbolt, allowing her a pseudo BoltBeam combination. The final two slots are up for grabs, Psychic gives a powerful STAB move and Trick allows you to theoretically cripple something like Blissey but the Ghost/Fighting combination of Shadow Ball and Focus Blast give you even more amazing type coverage.
Trace is the superior ability here as it offers more chances to switch in, but being able to bounce Toxic or Will-O-Wisp back could be useful. Its more up to preference.
Extra Options
Not much really. Any other options are used better by other pokemon.
EV's
160Hp/252Def/96Spe with a +Speed nature on the Screen set is optimum, allowing you to both take phsyical hits well and outspeed any swift swim pokemon you might switch in to. If you don't see Swift Swimmers as a threat then you can drop the Speed EV's into HP and use a +Def Nature, or you can shift some to Special Defense for a slightly more even spread.
Counters
Pursuit users. The screener set takes <50% from even a CB Tyranitar Pursuit when Reflect is up and switching but the choice set dies like JFK passing by a grassy knoll(Too early?) The Screener set absolutely hates being statused as it needs a few turns to set up and an unlucky full paralysis can ruin it, as can toxic or burn keeping it from switching in later. Taunters quickly destroy the Screener and many pokemon can take the chance to set up while you are.
Mow edit?
General Purpose
Gardevoir @ Leftovers
Trace: Modest
236 HP/ 136 Defense/ 24 Special Defense/ 112 Speed
10 IV for Attack
Psychic
Grass Knot
Will-O-Wisp
Wish
This set functions as a counter to standard physically bulky Pokemon, able to survive a hit and answer accordingly. More typically defensive Pokemon are weak to grass at the higher base power values and cannot whether repeated Grass Knots. Harder hitters are burned and crippled for the remainder of the match by Will-O-Wisp. The few Pokemon that don't really mind either are also generally harmless and are easy targets for Wish passing. Psychic is purely for STAB damage.
While Psychic and Wish are permanent to this set, Grass Knot and Will-O-Wisp can be replaced with any generic secondary attack and any random status move. This includes Hidden Power, Thunderbolt, Shadow Ball, Focus Blast, Energy Ball, Charge Beam, Icy Wind, or Signal Beam over Grass Knot. Will-O-wisp can just as much be replaced with Hypnosis, Thunder Wave, Confuse Ray, or Toxic. If you're insane, you can run Hypnosis and Dream Eater. Overall though, the set I have listed is probably the best.
EVs are set to outspeed neutral speed natured Tyranitar and bulky Gyarados, providing an easy burn status to both, while maximizing Leftovers healing towards a generic defensive spread. IV of Attack is set to 10 to minimize possible confusion damage while maintaining a legitimate PID combination for Modest and Female (as all Gardevoir should be). Modest is used to maximize stats without investment required for Special Attack.
As Gardevoir effectively gains Fire Type immunity when switching into Heatran, it is relatively safe to switch Gardevoir into Heatran and Will-O-Wisp immediately, as most Heatran are choiced and forced to switch, offering a free burn to anything coming in. If Heatran does not switch, you have a great opportunity to Wishpass instead while stalling out the locked Fire attack. That said, beware any Heatran not locked onto a Fire attack. This includes Life Orb, or any Heatran locked onto anything other than Fire.
Anything with Pursuit or CB Pursuit will hurt Gardevoir. However, as Pursuit is physical and you can choose not to switch, your counters will not threaten you very well after a Will-O-Wisp. This is particularly useful for those locked Heatrans switching out from an immune Gardevoir to a counter.
If you burn an incoming Guts Heracross, good luck.
max speed on all the sets? how is that helpful?Cacturne
C.R.A.P. (Counters, revenges, and punches)
Cacturne @ Focus Sash
Sand Veil: Lonely
4 HP/ 252 Attack/ 252 speed
Counter
Sucker Punch
Destiny Bond
Focus Punch/ Seed Bomb
Anything that has low defensive capabilities and counter has the capability of doing a somewhat good job counter killing. Counter first thing then sucker punch and you should kill with some exceptions (see troublesome pokes). If you are pit against a special sweeper, Destiny Bond and, unless they decide to stall, they die. The last movespot is up to choice. Focus punch is great for dealing with walls like blissey and normal types, while seed bomb is good for secondary stab and dealing with water types (which also carry a super effective ice move likely).
Dancing punch
Cacturne @ Adament
Sand Veil: Adament
4 HP/ 252 Attack/ 252 Speed
Sword Dance
Focus Punch
Sucker Punch
Seed Bomb/ Substitute
This is the most standard moveset you could use and one of the more preferred sets. Switch out on a wall, then either SD to increase the amount of damage you can do or substitute if you decide to use that. Then choose either one of your punches; Sucker Punch if you expect an attack, Focus punch if you expect a setup, status, or you are safely behind a substitute.
If you want, you can use Seed Bomb. Frankly the best use is if you don’t have the HP to set up substitute. Focus sash could also easily work if you decide to use seed bomb over substitute.
Ima be a hyper irritating Cacturne now
Cacturne @ Bright powder
Sand Veil: Adament
4 HP/ 252 Attack/ 252 Speed
Substitute
Leech Seed
Focus Punch
Sucker Punch
My famous Cacturne that I know you are at least somewhat familiar with. This only works well on sandstorm teams and is amazingly potent if you use it right (and you get lucky). Substitute and unleash your barrage of punches, leech seeding if you ever have the need. The advantage to this is that, with dual accuracy drops, you can keep your substitute amazingly long, meaning you don’t have to fear you getting killed and can unleash focus punch after focus punch.
This can easily work without sandstorm support; it just requires you to put up substitute more often. Leftovers are also a considerable item option as you will be losing your substitute much more often.
Extra Options:
Sandstorm: works great with his ability, but you’d be better leaving it to another poke to set up as a wasted turn could easily mean murder.
Thunder Punch: Good for getting a super effective hit against flying and water types (and most notably gyrados). Grass already deals with most water types (sans Swampert and the ground/water types) and and the only real common flying types are Gyrados and Skamory, both of which are dealt with by Focus Punch and Seed Bomb.
Brick Break and Drain Punch: Preferred for dealing with pokes whether attacking or not. Drain punch can also act as a substitute for Leech seed guaranteeing a bit more attack, but requiring constant use. Focus Punch hits a ton harder and the only excuse for not using it is if you are using the counter setup.
Life orb: If you sacrifice one of your setup moves (and likely focus punch) for another option, this can be effective. Just be aware that you’ll live a lot shorter when you take damage every single turn
EVs:
Attack and Speed should be top priority, though a strong HP boost could be beneficial on a more defensive set.
Troublesome Pokemon:
Most ghost types (but most notably Dusknoir) can be a pain in the rear to deal with (bearing in mind Sucker Punch hits super-effective) as they are immune to Focus punch and Counter. Dusknoir often knows brick break and either fire or ice punch; all 3 of which hit super effective. Add in priority and it ain’t pretty. All it really has to look out for is sucker punch.
Scizor is also a huge threat. That 4x bug resistance isn’t looking good on its resume and stabbed x-scissor can be a pain in the rear to deal with. It also has priority and a better overall speed stat, meaning if it comes down to minimal HP it will likely BP you to your grave.
Aboamasnow, though a bit less common, stops any weather currently in place and sets in hail, shutting down any sandstorm based setups as well as effectively thwarting counter-sash. It also has stabbed ice and often a fighting move thrown in.
Cacturne has several elemental weaknesses plus a mediocre defense stat. Anything with a fire, bug, ice, fighting, flying, or poison move or ghost types (as they are immune to at least one of its moves) can easily switch in and deal with it. Just be weary of counter and any tricks it has up its sleeve. It’s a gimmick-y poke, so the key is to shut it down early and try to remove any possible ways it can perform em.
Not perfect, but zrky suggested I should, so here it is.
...so true. I guess the only time you really need max speed is with the top set.
