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SWF Regional Ratings - Last Updates: MK-Legal: Oct 1st | MK-Banned: Nov 15th

Sinister Slush

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After months of it not allowing me to see the rankings, it finally feels like showing me the rankings today.
I'm 9 away from reaching the 5%?
Well damn, now I kinda wish to see the up to date list, if rajam ever works on it again.
 

Z'zgashi

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Also, I have a couple tournaments to add which Ill do in a couple hours, if no one else posts before that time, I'll just edit them all into this post.
Dat empty promise. Ill have the results by the time Apex has started, dont worry.
 

dextasmurf

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-READS THREAD
-LOOKS AT THE LATEST LIST
-(WHILE SCROLLING DOWN) LAUGHS AND WONDERS WHO THE LAST LOSER PERSON ON THE LIST IS
-REACHES THE BOTTOM OF THE LIST AND SEES *DEXTASMURF* AS THE LAST PERSON ON THE LIST
-PUNCHES SELF IN FACE FOR BEING A LAME-0

lol fml i haven't gone to a tourney in like a yr lol
 

Sinister Slush

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Just noticed the MK Ban.
I of course know of the ban... but I completely forgot about this since it hasn't been updated since... August?
I simply can't wait to see so many randoms cause of all the MK's being removed from the list!
 

Rajam

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Hi guys! Time to return to this project; this time, with the recent ban of Meta Knight, the ranking will be based on MK-banned tournaments, starting from January 2012. Also, from now on, the ranking will be based on the popular Elo Rating System, with a few adjustments to the k-factors, thus gaining much more accuracy than before!



[collapse="List of Tournaments Ranked"]Brawl & Melee: Smiths Station Smash 1 Results
Brawl: Hall of Gaming #8 - 1/14/12 Wallingford, CT - Results
Brawl & Melee: Don't Blink ~After Story~ 4
Brawl & Melee: 1/14/2012-1/15/2012 Winter Game Fest VII
Brawl: Rock Paper Scissors - January 21, 2012 (Alberta, Canada)
Brawl & Melee: SMASH! Minnesota II: Avalanche Results
Brawl: Grand Traverse Smash 2 Results
Brawl & Melee: Pathways Smash XII January Results
Brawl: Nike Sucks - 1/28/12
Brawl: Triumph or Die 2! - Taste of Animethon (Jan. 28, 2012) (Edm, AB)
Brawl & Melee: [ASL] HASL II Results
Brawl: 1/28/2012 Late Winter Bash Results (Leominster, MA)
iRJi Presents: Collision! Results!!
Brawl: Dimensions 2 - The four part plan
Brawl: FGCU Presents: Nub Academy 12-Senioritus (aka Veggi's Birthday Party)
Brawl: Sore Thumbs Brawlentines Day Results 2-4-12
Brawl: Baton Rouge Monthly #2 Results
Brawl & Melee: Something 2 Do Weekly #1! February 11th!
Brawl: B.C. Brawl Monthly VIII Results! (MK banned)
Brawl: The Phoenix Saga Pt.2 - February 11th, 2012 - Ann Arbor, MI *MK Banned*
Brawl: Battle Network 6 Results!
Madison tournament featuring CACTUAR"S EXPERIMENTAL RULESET Results
Brawl & Melee: NCSU Smash Rehash Vol. 5 "The Next Best Thing" Results!
Brawl: Come To Papa Results! (MK Banned)
Brawl: The Lotus #1
Brawl: Batou's Monthly 6
Brawl & Melee: Don't Blink 2012: 99 Problems but a Knee Ain't One Results!
Brawl & Melee: S.N.E.S. Sp'12 Results - 2/19/12 - Metaknight Banned
Brawl: Cold Con 2
Brawl: Rock Paper Scissors - February 25, 2012 (Edmonton, Alberta, Canada)
Brawl: Not in the Face! - February 25th
Brawl & Melee: February Fight Fest (MK Ban & MK Legal) - February 24-25, 2012 - Lafayette, LA
Brawl & Melee: SMYM practice featuring Jace and HondaFoo (KS), Thugz (MI) and JMan (SC via SD)
Brawl: Smashachusetts III - Official Results Are In!!!!
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[collapse="Ranking March 2nd: Players with 1.600 points or more"]
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The full, detailed Ranking can be found here, by downloading the latest excel file:
Brawl Ranking



Q: How does this ranking work?

A: To keep it simple, these ratings are based in the idea of Elo (check Elo Rating System), in which the k-factors are dependant mainly on tournament size, total money prize, and tournament phase. All players start with 1.500 points.
 

SN Viper

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This is sick. What an upgrade!

Questions i have.

Are you going to do the final update on the old rankings.
Will we be able to play ranked matches outside of tourny somehow?
 

Ezk1mo

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That ranking needs more R.O.B.'s >.>;; Also what is the Gold/Silver/Bronze stuff for? I'm ****** (#67 on the list) but my smashboards name doesn't match my tournament name, but I'd like to keep it as ******, so idk how the blue highlighting stuff is going to work out.
 

SN Viper

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That ranking needs more R.O.B.'s >.>;; Also what is the Gold/Silver/Bronze stuff for? I'm ****** (#67 on the list) but my smashboards name doesn't match my tournament name, but I'd like to keep it as ******, so idk how the blue highlighting stuff is going to work out.

That is like a medal case. it shows how many times you have placed top 3.

FGCU so good with 2 players on this list.
 

Cassio

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lol @ being MK banned only. Guess we can say goodbye to the West Coast on this list.
 

z00ted

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I'm trying to figure out why some tournaments aren't on the list?
Is it because you just didn't find the results thread?

It has me listed as a second placement once... when between January and now I've placed 1st and 2nd at tournaments with 29+ players.

You're probably missing:

Revolution 9

HOBO 35
 

Cassio

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Eh, theres several tournaments from aib that arent here. But thats usually an issue and I dont want to have to find all of them :|, its going to be even worse unless people clearly report which events are banned and not. You can probably talk to john #s since he keeps really good track.
Along with 70% of this list.
That too. But I meant mostly because hes hardly ever banned on the coast.
 

SN Viper

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I'm trying to figure out why some tournaments aren't on the list?
Is it because you just didn't find the results thread?

It has me listed as a second placement once... when between January and now I've placed 1st and 2nd at tournaments with 29+ players.

You're probably missing:

Revolution 9

HOBO 35
HOw is he supposed to count this there are no brackets.
 

z00ted

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Oh yeah, I forgot about the bracket stuff.
My region needs to upload brackets more often..
 

Sinister Slush

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Since we have our TX PR, they almost never feel the need to upload brackets in tournament result threads since they just send tio files to Zac/Xyro to update our PR.
 

Tesh

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This would be pretty cool if people sent in TO files and it wound up being very accurate. Sadly I don't see that happening at all.

WC uploads results to AiB often enough and AiB always has the bracket if you want to recreate and send it in I guess.
 

Rajam

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This is sick. What an upgrade!

Questions i have.

Are you going to do the final update on the old rankings.
Will we be able to play ranked matches outside of tourny somehow?
- mmm sadly, probably not. A lot of stuff needs to be updated there, and currently I don't have the time. I don't discard it 100% but I'd need a lot of time since there's a lot of catchup and work to do there.

- Maybe I'll add the posibility of money matches counting for this in the future. For now I need to give time to the ranking and see how it goes with just tournament results.


I'm trying to figure out why some tournaments aren't on the list?
Is it because you just didn't find the results thread?

It has me listed as a second placement once... when between January and now I've placed 1st and 2nd at tournaments with 29+ players.

You're probably missing:

Revolution 9

HOBO 35
I haven't the bracket for those :( Brackets are essential now, since I need to know exactly who defeated who and when (in which phase). Overall placings are not enough info. If you manage to get the brackets, you can send them to me though, and I'll add them; I tried to get them before, without much luck :(

Just out of curiosity what are the changes you made to the k-factors?
Instead of picking constant k-factors (like in chess, where the k-factor is usually a certain fixed number), I adapted them so that the k-factors are dependant mainly on tournament size and tournament phase (ie: 3rd round of losers bracket in a 27-players tournament has a k-factor of 50,85). For determining k-factors, an initial assumption that all entrants have the same score was made, and in that case, the differences between the final scores (once the tournament has ended) are established to follow a certain distribution. The distribution is as follow:

- The difference in points between a player whose final place was among the first X players, and a player whose final place was among the first Y players (with X < Y) in a tournament with N entrants is the next:

10 * LN(Y/X) * SQRT(N+2) / LN(2)

With that in mind, k-factors are estimated.

I know this sounds kinda vague / complicated. In the next update I'll upload some images / tables with these k-factors.
 

Keitaro

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:( at Apex 2012 and KTAR 6 never being in the rankings. Oh well. Only issue is that a lot of tournaments will actually have MK legal in the states. May be less than 50%, but that is a big chunk of tournies that won't be accounted for in these rankings.
 

Patches

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So there is like... no east coast Canadian's on here.

Do our tournaments not count or something?

edit: Yeah... none of our tournaments are on here. D:
 

z00ted

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Patches, read before you post lol
you gotta have the brackets
 

John12346

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This is needed in order to rank an event:

- The tournament MUST be MK-Banned
- Bracket + Detailed Pool Results
- Total payouts (or entry fee)
- A results thread (here or in AiB is recommended)
- Date and Location (City+State) of the Tournament
- Ruleset according to the SWF Official Recommended Ruleset
This is needed in order to rank an event:

- Ruleset according to the SWF Official Recommended Ruleset
Ruleset according to the SWF Official Recommended Ruleset
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=230481???????

wtflol you might wanna revise that...
 

Denti

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I'm not #4. It's cool being in that spot though. I just attend and win tons of tournaments, especially the MK banned ones. I'm anti ban though.

This PR is new and fresh, of course it's going to be very inaccurate. We should wait like half a year or year before we complain LOL.
 

DeLux

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Rajam, would you retroactively add points if I added Brackets for KS tournaments?
 

Rajam

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http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=230481???????

wtflol you might wanna revise that...
uh lol you're right. "Normal" tournaments are ok in general. That is, no items, no 4-players free-for-all... stuff like that.

My 2 stage ban rule wouldn't interferre with this, would it?
No, no problem

Rajam, would you retroactively add points if I added Brackets for KS tournaments?
Sure! Note I'm adding tournaments from this year exclusively though
 
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