The Better Lucario Official Guide/Faq/Database (Now with More Lawl!)

[Lucarioowl]

greetings fellow lucario users i got a question and request has everyone ever used extreme speed to cling on the ledge of fd or the practice stage once an opponent was already clinging on i did this twice in my life and would like to master it if this has been done can someone post a tutorial on it up or ill just keep trying and ill post a tutorial up i know two things on the matter one your opponent must run out of invinsibility frames and two you can immediatly dair them for the most wicked edge spike. if this has not been discovered yet then i hear by claim it as my move and welcome all to do it lol but till i get better at it post a reply may the aura be with you

 

[Lucarioowl]

when i say cling i mean wall cling not edge hog picture capting falcon holding edge of fd and lucario clinging right above him my little bro was screaming that is BS lucario is cheap when i did this i replied i dont need the wall under you loser hahahahahah and since then hard to reproduce i usually just bounce off now grr stupid invincibility frames

 

[MysticKenji]

Ledgecling?
That's old.

 

[Lucarioowl]

while someone else is clinging ie two clinging to one ledge i have to try and get a vid up leave it to me ill make you a believer hahahah

 

[Milln]

while someone else is clinging ie two clinging to one ledge i have to try and get a vid up leave it to me ill make you a believer hahahah

I put this up in April. Is this what you needed?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDOJe_1vEMY

 

[Milln]

I hate windows movie maker.

 

[Lucarioowl]

yep thats it thanks bro its only in a few stages apparently thanks for the link 2 59 shows it best thanks again dude

 

[f0cus]

Smexy guide

 

[TriForceOfCourage]

Nice guide.........substantial detail, everything you said was true.This guide has come in handy thank you

 

[Milln]

Smexy guide

Nice guide.........substantial detail, everything you said was true.This guide has come in handy thank you

<3 to both of you. Appreciate it.

Workin' on those updates. Soon as Timberrrs stops being a fgt, I can post.

 

[Timbers]

Milln and his wonky videos.

 

[Milln]

Kay. I'll get the text update in a day or so.

 

[DuskMarthWater]

What? I'm so confused...text update? Whatever. I guess I'll see in a day or so, huh?

So I'm thinking that periods and commas are a good thing to use Lucarioowl. Your posts are hard to read. Yea.

 

[Popertop]

Lucario is too good.
Do a forward smash!
Aura sphere.

 

[Milln]

What? I'm so confused...text update? Whatever. I guess I'll see in a day or so, huh?

So I'm thinking that periods and commas are a good thing to use Lucarioowl. Your posts are hard to read. Yea.

I released Inner Fire 11 yesterday. I'm going to write out and explain in further detail what it contained, along with a couple other things that I mentioned earlier.

 

[Popertop]

FP has double range of normal grab.
Interesting.

DO a FORWARD SmaSH!

 

[Black_Heretic]

Where are the jazz hands?

 

[Milln]

August 19th, 2008- Rotated introductory pictures, created a section devoted to Lucario's grab game. The tag is (TOUCH). It has also has a... um... visual aid. Added a preparation.

I think I did a good job on the ears.


Also, wut jazz hands.

 

[Mr. Game & What The ...!?]

yes.... good update on grabbing, tnx!
people do underestimate force palm grab, i've been in situations where i used it like 3 times, one right after the other (it's sort of a chain grab) resulting in awesome pawning combo...
which was really good since lucario at 0% has a bit of a problem with dealing out real damage but this one got my opponent straight to 40 % in no time at all

o yeah, and i love the visual aid, great work!

 

[Milln]

yes.... good update on grabbing, tnx!
people do underestimate force palm grab, i've been in situations where i used it like 3 times, one right after the other (it's sort of a chain grab) resulting in awesome pawning combo...
which was really good since lucario at 0% has a bit of a problem with dealing out real damage but this one got my opponent straight to 40 % in no time at all

o yeah, and i love the visual aid, great work!

Force Palm Chain Grab is already covered and known. You can chain them until your opponent is around 30%, after that it depends on who it is if you can continue from there.

Thanks. I thought everyone would like it. =3

 

[Shadow Light Master]

Awesome guide. I think it might be worth noting that Lucario's dash attack cancels Marth's f-Smash. I believe this is true, but someone should test it. I did it a few times today.

 

[Browny]

a lot of attacks cancel marths fsmash (most of CF's ground based attacks do, so do sonics so go figure). Its not the god tier move it used to be lol. cancelling the tornado is all that matters now

 

[Mr. Game & What The ...!?]

I have cancelled MK's tornado sometimes with dair, but i can not say for sure that was more than just an incident, i can't seem to get it to work consequently either...

 

[Conclusively]

I have cancelled MK's tornado sometimes with dair, but i can not say for sure that was more than just an incident, i can't seem to get it to work consequently either...

You probably hit MK from above. Most reliable way of cancelling whorenado.

 

[Milln]

No comments on the visual aid? No one likes my art. T-T

(Update when I have time. Busy at my store)

 

[LordoftheMorning]

I'm officially maining Lucario! He's just so fun to play, and plus you other Lucarios are so cool!

Edit: Don't worry man. We are all just too overwhelmed by your masterpiece to actually speak.

 

[Milln]

Edit: Don't worry man. We are all just too overwhelmed by your masterpiece to actually speak.

I figured that that had to be what it was. >O

 

[DuskMarthWater]

Nice little section on grabbing Milln. The drawing's pretty funny, by the way. It illustrates the point well enough though.

Sooo...I just wanted to throw some stuff in here for you to consider:

1.) Maybe you should make a section titled Tips and Tricks, or something to that effect. In that section you could put all the little extra tricks we all know. For example, the two you recently(kinda) discovered: extreme shift and extreme stop2. Both of those are good, and I can't find the thread with them in it. Just food for thought.

2.) The video in the Assembly of Unfamiliar Information on Ledge-Cancelling could be improved a bit. If you do it right, you will simply fall from the top of the ledge with no lag AND you get your second jump back. If you try to push yourself onto the stage then it looks like you have lag. Neh...I thought it was something new, but I guess not. You could also put that into your section if you decide to make one.

3.) I'll try to make some videos for you if you make it. Otherwise I'll still make 'em and you and put them where ever you want them. I don't have a camcorder so I'll make them sometime...not sure when that will be though.

4.) Relevant to the conversation going on right now. You can stop MK's tornado with a precisely spaced fsmash, or with a FCAS. Yea, that's RIGHT MK!!!!!!!!!!! PWNED!!!!!!

 

[tedward2000]

hey Milln, I've had this happen to me a few times this week.

So I would Dair above the person, and yet it would seem like I wouldn't hit them, they still get hit.
I know the kinks and tricks of Lucario, and I've never ever seen Dair reach that far.

So I was thinking that Dair hit their hitbox, and it traveled down and hit them, but its only a hypothesis.
And no, We weren't recording nor was the character that it happened on remembered. But I do remember it happening again vs. my friends Boswer.
-t2

 

[Milln]

1.) Maybe you should make a section titled Tips and Tricks, or something to that effect. In that section you could put all the little extra tricks we all know. For example, the two you recently(kinda) discovered: extreme shift and extreme stop2. Both of those are good, and I can't find the thread with them in it. Just food for thought.

I have. It's under the tag (KIDS). (as in trix are for kids lawlalwlalwalwl) aaaand it hasn't been updated since ExtremeAwesome.

hey Milln, I've had this happen to me a few times this week.

So I would Dair above the person, and yet it would seem like I wouldn't hit them, they still get hit.
I know the kinks and tricks of Lucario, and I've never ever seen Dair reach that far.

So I was thinking that Dair hit their hitbox, and it traveled down and hit them, but its only a hypothesis.
And no, We weren't recording nor was the character that it happened on remembered. But I do remember it happening again vs. my friends Boswer.
-t2

O rly. That's just Lucario's fusion fission combustion engines that MacGyver created kicking in.

 

[DuskMarthWater]

Hmmm...OK. I'll check it out. You should update it, yo! Mostly 'cause I don't remember how to do extreme shift.

 

[Milln]

Hmmm...OK. I'll check it out. You should update it, yo! Mostly 'cause I don't remember how to do extreme shift.

It's not important, anyway. XD

 

[betterthanbonds9]

i haven't read this FAQ thing since it was made ^_^ and it's like watching your little cousin grow i think...

and i lol'd at the pic, but only because of the woosh

What's up for the next inner fire? Plus just a casual observation of my own skill over time: the better i got, the more i implemented FP. I remember thinking i never use it, and now (although i dont use it as much as possible) i tend to get like 10-15% of my KOs with it along with opening any game vs a snake or wolf about 80% of the time with a chain>fair>?

 

[tedward2000]

New inner fire!
didnt see it nor did you tell us.
Srsly you've been like hermit lately,Milln.
-t2

 

[Milln]

I did tell you all. Five minutes after I posted it I spammed The new vid thread and my Inner Fire topic.

 

[Browny]

we all know of the usual fair-dair approach, but i was thinking...

we should space the fair dair such that the dair lands right on top of the enemies head (not infront) that way if they shield the fair dair, you can footstool hop them immediately while they shield for a free dair, or possibly land and get a free AS/dsmash off while they are in the footstool stun.

discuss

 

[betterthanbonds9]

we all know of the usual fair-dair approach, but i was thinking...

we should space the fair dair such that the dair lands right on top of the enemies head (not infront) that way if they shield the fair dair, you can footstool hop them immediately while they shield for a free dair, or possibly land and get a free AS/dsmash off while they are in the footstool stun.

discuss

sooo....ms paint time

Spoiler

over 9000 mspaint hours

 

[Milln]

Yar, but characters can shield grab you anyway by grabbing you with their hats or something. Lucario's not the only one I don't think.

I'll move that you guys space your dairs so that you end up behind them if you're going for the dair or footstool FIRST. Or you could bair or aura charge. >,>

 

[betterthanbonds9]

Yar, but characters can shield grab you anyway by grabbing you with their hats or something. Lucario's not the only one I don't think.

I'll move that you guys space your dairs so that you end up behind them if you're going for the dair or footstool FIRST. Or you could bair or aura charge. >,>

It's hard enough to space the fair so you're on top of them with the dair if they shield as is, so yeah, fair>footstool>dair should do the job just as well

 

[Milln]

Sorreh about the no update when I promised one. I've been distracted by a few things. I'll see about checking in after my tournament this Saturday.