illinialex24
Smash Hero
Yeah but he's a sitting duck up there for a bit
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The Jigglypuff...grab release thread? (lol wut?)
- Thread starter MrEh
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MrEh
Smash Hero
Veril
Frame Savant
Ah yes, so I used the grab-release rest on a wario friend of mine. We were playing on Smashville and I grabbed him again off the platform. Instead of Jump-breaking though, he just let himself ground release off the platform. So I footstool hopped him into the jab lock setup.
Ground-release off platform to footstool hop to edgeguard/jab-lock. Might be worth looking into.
I put this thread in my links/general info/rules thread.
Ground-release off platform to footstool hop to edgeguard/jab-lock. Might be worth looking into.
I put this thread in my links/general info/rules thread.
MrEh
Smash Hero
That sounds brilliant actually. I'll test this, could be useful on stages with platforms.
Veril
Frame Savant
You know what makes it hilarious? The Corneria laser.
MrEh
Smash Hero
If that actually happened, then it proves that the stage itself is the most fearsome edgeguard ever.
PND
Smash Champion
I've had Corneria own some tether recoveries before. I laugh my *** of every time it happens.
Veril
Frame Savant
Infinites and 0-D combos?
If you are able to grab-release wario into a footstool hop Jiggs might have an infinite on him. Her n-air and f-air both have jab-lock properties and once started we could theoretically jab-lock from one end of the stage to the other, pivot grab, footstool and repeat until ending with a grab-release rest.
Also, footstool hop > falling pound may be a true combo. I haven't tested it but it seems cool.
In fact, a low footstool hop may always lead to death vs. some characters since a jab lock always leads into rest. It definitely does against Lucas and Ness since you can jab-lock into a pivot grab into a grab-release regrab chain.
Edit: I believe that on Luigi's mansion under the ceilings, a grab will = death vs. Lucas, Ness or Wario and possibly others. Again, not yet tested.
If you are able to grab-release wario into a footstool hop Jiggs might have an infinite on him. Her n-air and f-air both have jab-lock properties and once started we could theoretically jab-lock from one end of the stage to the other, pivot grab, footstool and repeat until ending with a grab-release rest.
Also, footstool hop > falling pound may be a true combo. I haven't tested it but it seems cool.
In fact, a low footstool hop may always lead to death vs. some characters since a jab lock always leads into rest. It definitely does against Lucas and Ness since you can jab-lock into a pivot grab into a grab-release regrab chain.
Edit: I believe that on Luigi's mansion under the ceilings, a grab will = death vs. Lucas, Ness or Wario and possibly others. Again, not yet tested.
Tarmogoyf
Smash Master
Peach has an infinite on Wario because of footstool to jab lock, so this seems very likely. I think that footstooling forces the getup anamation, which would mean they can't tech roll/getup attack, so you could regrab. I'm not entirley sure though.
EDIT: Link to the Peach infinite on Wario:http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=214599 Hopefully we can learn something from this.
illinialex24
Smash Hero
But we have to be able to force a jump release on Wario. If not, it isn't guaranteed, he just has to screw up.
Veril
Frame Savant
True, but I'm confident we'll find a way. Also... platforms. That always works.
Yes, I read this, it gave me the idea. Footstooling doesn't force the getup, the lock does. Fortunately, we have ample tools to lock. You can regrab.
Pivot grab to grab-release regrab makes Jab locks very deadly vs. the Earthbound kids.
I despise these children, so anything to beat their faces in is very helpful information. Also in other news that should be our next weekly match-up we haven't done a weekly match-up in a few weeks lol.
Veril
Frame Savant
Watch yo' self! I used to main Lucas!
Yeah, a missed tech for them = death.
It is possible to footstool hop Wario from a grab-release but I'm unsure if its 100% effective. Regardless, given the jab-lock > pivot grab > grab-released rest combo, jab locking Wario is really really effective.
Jab lock vs. Lucas is really deadly since you can: jab-lock > pivot grab > grab-release regrab repeat > grab-release DACUS.
The_Jiggernaut
Smash Ace
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This thread is awesome, man. Great work. Also, I looked up Italian Spiderman is equaly awesome.
Actally, I'd really like to use some on this stuff. In your first post, I recomend making small groupings of all the characters that Jiggs can can use each technique on. One for Up taunt, one for Dacus, one for aerial moves, and anything usable on Wario. I think it would just be easier to remember that way.
Actally, I'd really like to use some on this stuff. In your first post, I recomend making small groupings of all the characters that Jiggs can can use each technique on. One for Up taunt, one for Dacus, one for aerial moves, and anything usable on Wario. I think it would just be easier to remember that way.
Veril
Frame Savant
I love this thread. It has helped me immensely against Wario. Thank's again MrEh.
I've used all of the Wario grab-releases in actual matches as well as the footstool hop.
I've used all of the Wario grab-releases in actual matches as well as the footstool hop.
PND
Smash Champion
I grab release rested a Wario in an actual match tonight. With video proof.
*thumbs up*
*thumbs up*