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habit mostly. you of all people should know that I play on no scientific basis. it's just something that I do, but then so is the whole strategy.
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The new Roy Strategem discussion
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ChivalRuse
Smash Hero
Some people are accustomed to interrupting the dtilt with a jump.
TresChikon
Smash Lord
Well, lookie here if you haven't done so already
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=60918
Fox movement tricks, but pulse walking and lots of things Roy can do as well are in here.
Magus420
Smash Master
Probably known already, but if for some reason you happen to be playing against G&W or Pichu on YS a d-tilt to reverse up-b is a legit death combo anywhere on the stage from 0-50ish. It's pretty hilarious xD
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oO;;
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Virusbluemage
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I'm not sure if people know this already. But people may think that after dtilting you have an extreme lag afterwards, I'm sure you've been in a position where your opponents jumps or rolls away from your dtilt, and you try to block but they hit you anyways. Well it turns out that for whatever reason you can't shield out of your dtilt until the entire animation is done, but you can roll, jump, DED even wavedash out of it so really the move has hardly any lag.
Its already known, Virus. For some reason dtilt just can't be IASA'd with shield.
The solution? Just hold forward a bit when you start to hold shield. Roy will start to step forward in the IASA frames and then immediately shield.
The solution? Just hold forward a bit when you start to hold shield. Roy will start to step forward in the IASA frames and then immediately shield.
Nø Ca$h
Smash Champion
is JC out of dtilt any faster than walk?
Magus420
Smash Master
Roy for wtf tier?
Never realized the invisible ceiling glitch could carry over for so long (that f-smash is definitely not normal, lol).
Lovage
Smash Hero
phanna made a video about that after genesis.
after random spiking with counter, every hit will "spike" the character until they touch the ground. try getting a random counter spike and then hitting that character with fox's drill LOL
after random spiking with counter, every hit will "spike" the character until they touch the ground. try getting a random counter spike and then hitting that character with fox's drill LOL
moyshe
Lazer Fox
lol I love it. Screw marth mains.
Roy for wtf tier?
Never realized the invisible ceiling glitch could carry over for so long (that f-smash is definitely not normal, lol).
RaynEX
Colonel RTSD
Thats an awesome piece of information. I can see that being incredibly useful to know in teams play. Though, why you'd use Roy for that purpose is completely beyond me.
it´s soo unfair for roy to make his areals sooooooooo weak!!!
every character can jump so early after getting hit
his forwardsmash is much slower than marth´s
even his side b moves have sweetspots
his dair has such a gay sweetspot
and the recoverytimes are too big
when there is someone, who thinks about playing roy, he should try marth first, cause he´s better in every case!
every character can jump so early after getting hit
his forwardsmash is much slower than marth´s
even his side b moves have sweetspots
his dair has such a gay sweetspot
and the recoverytimes are too big
when there is someone, who thinks about playing roy, he should try marth first, cause he´s better in every case!
So I've got a hypothetical situation for you more experienced/more intellectual Roy players.
Don't think it's been addressed - saw some things on throws in general, but I've got a specific case.
I'm playing a campy falco on stadium, and I've managed to chase him out from under his platform towards the edge of the stage. I get him with a dtilt around 60%, and he opts not to DI back towards his platform (probably because I've chased him there with Nair the past two times this as happened). So now I've got a falco, suspended in midair. A short hopped nair would probably be the safest option, but I'm feeling flashy, so I dash dance and grab him out of his stun.
So I wind up facing the edge, falco around 70%, and I'm thinking maybe I'll get an easy gimp out of this. Of course, I opt for an uthrow so I can try and nair him over the edge (what was I thinking!?) and of course, he hard DIs back to the center of the stage. I pitch a flareblade at him, and miss, and suddenly I'm back to square one, only now he's realizes I'm trying to shuttle him over the edge. The match goes downhill from there.
But from that setup, I could have done anything. I could have fthrown him over the edge, dash danced the other direction and bthrown him over the edge, or even opted for the safe nair. What's the best option? Nair puts him too high to try and goad a counter-able up-b for a quick and easy gimp, and I'm thinking fthrow would just bounce him up at me again, where I get illusioned before I can move again. I don't even know how bthrow would act when there's now ground below the throwee ...
Any thoughts?
tl;dr - 'Holding a fast-faller by the ledge. Which way do I throw him?'
Don't think it's been addressed - saw some things on throws in general, but I've got a specific case.
I'm playing a campy falco on stadium, and I've managed to chase him out from under his platform towards the edge of the stage. I get him with a dtilt around 60%, and he opts not to DI back towards his platform (probably because I've chased him there with Nair the past two times this as happened). So now I've got a falco, suspended in midair. A short hopped nair would probably be the safest option, but I'm feeling flashy, so I dash dance and grab him out of his stun.
So I wind up facing the edge, falco around 70%, and I'm thinking maybe I'll get an easy gimp out of this. Of course, I opt for an uthrow so I can try and nair him over the edge (what was I thinking!?) and of course, he hard DIs back to the center of the stage. I pitch a flareblade at him, and miss, and suddenly I'm back to square one, only now he's realizes I'm trying to shuttle him over the edge. The match goes downhill from there.
But from that setup, I could have done anything. I could have fthrown him over the edge, dash danced the other direction and bthrown him over the edge, or even opted for the safe nair. What's the best option? Nair puts him too high to try and goad a counter-able up-b for a quick and easy gimp, and I'm thinking fthrow would just bounce him up at me again, where I get illusioned before I can move again. I don't even know how bthrow would act when there's now ground below the throwee ...
Any thoughts?
tl;dr - 'Holding a fast-faller by the ledge. Which way do I throw him?'
ChivalRuse
Smash Hero
Throw him off the stage. He'll probably DI in if you fthrow, so fsmash might combo. If he doesn't input survival DI, he'll probably not be able to make it back to the stage with his double jump and he'll be forced to side-b into your charged flareblade.
Torn out the frame.
Roy for wtf tier?
Never realized the invisible ceiling glitch could carry over for so long (that f-smash is definitely not normal, lol).
Y'know ... sometimes the simplest solutions completely escape me.
Still, f-throw does seem like the best option once I've already buggered up the sane ideas.
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nope, not anymore. I'm not going to either. I sware you guys always think I'm driving to every tournament.
You're just following me around, I guess.
Haha ... didn't you randomly show up in the purdue thread, too?
Aww ... not goin' to either? And here I was hopin' to see some Roy pwnage.
wth? i think ur following me! lol yea, i was subscribed to that thread too, can't remember why. think it was because there was a tourney, then they never had it or i missed it >.<
legion598
Smash Ace
hey guyzzzzzz roys pretty cool
Nø Ca$h
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roy can moonwalk
get at me
get at me
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too bad walking is superior in every way for roy's style
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Is Roy vs Sheik and ICs really10-0?
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no but it's pretty bad. 80-20
Nø Ca$h
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imo if the sheik doesnt play defensive its 75-25
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How fun, two 8-2's and a 7-3 from stupid CGs.
Oh well I'll just suck it up, or secondary for those three MU's.
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^not a true roy main
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Sucking it up would make me a Roy main.
Copping out to a secondary isn't a true main I agree, lol.
Eljin
Smash Ace
although not a real roy main... i love his playstyle. I've been playing a friend of mine (who plays ganon) alot nd although im not even that good with roy (considering i've lost so many matches)he complains to me when im up 4 stock to 2 he say "so you have 2 grab 2 win". I reply "well its getting me ahead".
correct me if im wrong but isnt that a main component 2 roys game... the combo's he could possibly start off from a grab??? i dont want 2 think i was a heartless ******* while vs him. In the end i did come out on top... let me know if I was wrong 4 what i did.
correct me if im wrong but isnt that a main component 2 roys game... the combo's he could possibly start off from a grab??? i dont want 2 think i was a heartless ******* while vs him. In the end i did come out on top... let me know if I was wrong 4 what i did.
Palpi
Smash Hero
I am actually really liking roy. I know he sucks in several match ups, but I may want to start using him for-realzies.
Nø Ca$h
Smash Champion
eljin.. yes roy has a **** tech chase off grabs game. we should smash. i usually chill with a good doc main.
Castlevania avatars are pro.
Nø Ca$h
Smash Champion
it shows that we are the best roy players.