Tutorial: Editing Vertices! ~Gallery Updated (2/8/10)~

[meleemaster500]

no, it runs it alright, it just gets an error and doesn't finish...


EDIT: Finally got it to work using an unmodified PAC for TL

 

[Poxag]

Oh, and as for your problem, Poxag... You need to name the vertex file "test.bin". 1234 to 4321.exe seems to give me that error if the test.bin doesn't exist.

I dont think thats the problem, it works fine the first time I use 1234 to 4321 but when Im trying to use it again after Ive finished my editing it doesnt work. step 14 telles me to go in my new .3ds and go to the spot where I pasted in an earlier step "address 000000e0" and highlight the same amount and export it. I've been doing that and clicking export to hexdump and then saving it as test.bin after I do that it says to uses 1234 to 4321 and when I do that I get the error that I posted before?

I cant tell if you're telling me how to fix this or if ur telling me how to fix something else

 

[StarWaffle]

The "5500" would be the hex for the amount of vertices in the polygon cluster. If it's 5500, then it would have 85 vertices. If it has 480 vertices, it'll be "E001". The hex digits go in reverse order.

I'm stuck on step 8 D:

K so do I always look for 55 00 or do i look for E0 01? how do i know what to look for? or is it in a specific spot and the 55 00 tells me how many rows i need to paste my code in? :S

and for the part you highlighted do you paste your other code over top of all that. or did you already paste it inbetween the 5500 and 11


sorry i'm a little slow, could someone help me out a bit

 

[meleemaster500]

imported model and got this (faces invisible unless object is selected):

am I still on track to make faces work or have I messed up somewhere?

 

[-BigSharkZ-]

RandomTBush, can I contact you through MSN?

And Poxag, I thought you meant for the first step. You can just extract the vertice you want to edit, rename it to test.bin, then use it to get your out.bin file.

 

[luigiman1928]

Hey BSZ. What program are you using for the models? Anim8or Wont open with Windows 7. >.<

 

[Poxag]

RandomTBush, can I contact you through MSN?

And Poxag, I thought you meant for the first step. You can just extract the vertice you want to edit, rename it to test.bin, then use it to get your out.bin file.

OK Im really sorry but Im just not getting what you're saying I should do, I feel like an idiot but ok, so what you are saying is that after I have edited my .3ds to look the way I want it. I then open that .3ds in a hex editor, go the address of the vertex I edited and then export that and name it test.bin? I am really confused now

I'm really going to need step by step instructions. when/where do I extract the vertice from, keep in mind that this is after I have finished editing the vertices. Im sorry but Im just not getting it

Well I figured out what the problem was, instead of just saving selection as I was exporting as hexdump, i dont kno wat that means but once I switched it worked fine

 

[StarWaffle]

Still on step 8 here, I couldn't find 5000 so i just guessed and put it inbetween 16 00 and 11. it didn't work ;-;

 

[RandomTBush]

RandomTBush, can I contact you through MSN?

Probably, but it'll have to be sometime tomorrow. I've been busy with other things for most of the day today. :x

 

[luigiman1928]

Hey i saw your Viewtiful Joe in Brawl Model format, and could you rearrange Zero's Model to do the same?
That would help Eldrians PSA, and that would PWN soo bad.

 

[Poxag]

on step 8 am i supposed to find the spot where in the 3rd group of 00000e0 or the spot where there is 55 00 11?

EDIT: sigh..... I still can't get this to work, after I replace the mdlo in brawlbox with my new one it gives me a weird error message whenever I try to right click or preview the model, I Give up, I'll come back when somebody makes an automatic version or something

 

[StarWaffle]

Hey I was thinking.

I can barely use this tutorial yet, but if you taught me how to do it properly. Would it help people if I like did steps 1-8 for everyone and then for the rest of the steps label where to place everything and upload it all to a very user friendly directory available for download? It would be a long a tedious task but I need to waste time.

I could also make a video just in case people get stuck?

anyways, let me know.

 

[Mit]

Hey i saw your Viewtiful Joe in Brawl Model format, and could you rearrange Zero's Model to do the same?
That would help Eldrians PSA, and that would PWN soo bad.

That wasn't the TvC model, that was an edited, textured Captain Falcon. Look at it more closely

 

[Poxag]

Hey I was thinking.

I can barely use this tutorial yet, but if you taught me how to do it properly. Would it help people if I like did steps 1-8 for everyone and then for the rest of the steps label where to place everything and upload it all to a very user friendly directory available for download? It would be a long a tedious task but I need to waste time.

I could also make a video just in case people get stuck?

anyways, let me know.

could you please make a video for us? It would help alot, right now I cant even figure out what I'm doing wrong

 

[-BigSharkZ-]

I've gotten Hare Hare Yukai, Tatsunoko vs. Capcom, Castlevania Judgement and Naruto models to load in Brawl Box, but I can only see the textures and palettes. I've tried changing the file's data in hex but I'm still getting to nowhere. RandomTBush, could you tell me what did you change exactly in hex? The closest I got was the textures and palettes to work.

 

[StarWaffle]

i dont think its possible to insert models yet

 

[meleemaster500]

you can't import models.

not until another version of brawlbox, so check that or whatever


anyway, a more in-depth tutorial on faces, possibly a video, would be very much appreciated

 

[luigiman1928]

Yes it would indeed

 

[StarWaffle]

Well I still haven't been successful yet, I got to the point of editing pikachus into looking like raichus, saved it but when i loaded it onto brawl it didnt show up

If someone teaches me how to use this properly I could make a video, or someone could make a video instead of teaching me. Either way is fine :D

 

[Pichu_815]

Okay, I'm having a little trouble with anim8or, it seems. I've done up to step 8. My 3ds file has 1192 vertices, so I copied in my data between A8 04 and 11 (1192 in hex is 4A8), so I don't think I messed up there. However, every time I try to load the 3ds in anim8or afterward, I get an error message saying "Can't seek." and then one saying "error reading file." I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong here...

 

[L-a-t-e-r-a-l-u-s]

nvanfoewbvobaoe I feel like this could be made much much simpler... Also, updating the OP with fixes for allllll of the issues people are having would be nice :l.

 

[StarWaffle]

somebody wanna skype with me so i can share my screen and you can tell me what i'm doing wrong :D

 

[StarWaffle]

sorry double post, my pm system isnt working. Could someone add me on msn or could we go to aib chat or something and you could walk me through this guide. I really would like to help other people but i cant if i dont know how

i'll be in the aib chat if anyone is willing: http://allisbrawl.com/chat.aspx?r=4

 

[-BigSharkZ-]

I HAVE DONE IT, NOW BOW TO ME *****ES.

 

[Poxag]

I HAVE DONE IT, NOW BOW TO ME *****ES.

If we bow will you teach us how to do it? seriously somebody whos done this already please help clearify the directions, it's really obnoxious that I still cant do this

 

[pokelover980]

I HAVE DONE IT, NOW BOW TO ME *****ES.

Hey wait a second, I thought you left :U

But I'll bow to you only after you bow to me......

which will be never, but I bow to you anyways because you're to awesome for words.

EDIT: I'll clarify things for you eventually if someone doesn't beat me to it, Poxag. I haven't worked with this to much, so I'm still trying to find ways to make every character work. I've found that some characters really screw up if you are off just by a value or two while you are copy-pasting everything, while some characters have only a few screw ups that aren't noticeable.

 

[Akari_Un]

I HAVE DONE IT, NOW BOW TO ME *****ES.

Thanks to . . . . ?

 

[StarWaffle]

If we bow will you teach us how to do it? seriously somebody whos done this already please help clearify the directions, it's really obnoxious that I still cant do this

I die a little every minute I cannot do this, i have tried and re-tried about 15 times now ;-;

 

[-BigSharkZ-]

I am willing to help anybody who needs help, just add GokuSSJ15@live.com and I'll help you.

Also, Akari_Un, I have already thanked you on MSN and on my post. Isn't that enough?

 

[luigiman1928]

I just added you on MY Yahoo. Yet is says your offline.


(MEGAMAN.)

 

[-BigSharkZ-]

Luigiman, I am online right now, I don't get it. What's your email? Also, don't send me emails on that account, as I have like, 20 000 spam mails, just email me at TehBigShark@gmail.com. I only use GokuSSJ15@live.com if I want to use MSN.

 

[luigiman1928]

20,00? I only have 1,000... luigiman1928@yahoo.com It says i have to add you to my online list to chat with you. no cluw how. What your MSN Chat ID?

 

[Poxag]

I am willing to help anybody who needs help, just add GokuSSJ15@live.com and I'll help you.

Also, Akari_Un, I have already thanked you on MSN and on my post. Isn't that enough?

I sent you an email to see if you can help me, but yea if somebody made a video tutorial that would be awesome I have no idea what I'm doing wrong now, even when I just tried to export it and not edit it at all and put it back in I got an error

Edit: crap right after I post this it shows me that you posted not to email to that account

Edit Again: ok now I sent an email to the right address

 

[-BigSharkZ-]

Well, let's do something.

I'll create a IRC Channel for anybody who seeks help.

Go on http://esper.net/pjirc , then when it loads, type your nickname and in the chat box, type /join VerticesHelp

I'll be there.

Edit: Guys, just go on that channel. I'm still receiving emails on the account I said I don't use, so just go on the channel I gave.

 

[StarWaffle]

Well, let's do something.

I'll create a IRC Channel for anybody who seeks help.

Go on http://esper.net/pjirc , then when it loads, type your nickname and in the chat box, type /join VerticesHelp

I'll be there.

Edit: Guys, just go on that channel. I'm still receiving emails on the account I said I don't use, so just go on the channel I gave.

fffffffffffff IRC dosnt work on my computer could you try xat or maybe skype? or what ever aib chat uses. ;-; the internet here sucks!

 

[-BigSharkZ-]

 

[Poxag]

OH $#!T !!!! thats awesome, I went on that chat thingy and nobody was on it. could you check ur email and tell me what im doing wrong

 

[-BigSharkZ-]

Thanks, Poxag, and just come back, I was AFK, you didn't even stay for a minute, lol.

 

[StarWaffle]

Grrrrr, could you please use a different type of chat :'(

 

[-BigSharkZ-]

Grrrrr, could you please use a different type of chat :'(

Do you have MSN?