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With NamcoBandai working in the current Smash Bros-title, there's been couple of debates on potential Namco-reps, the forerunner being Pac-Man in means of popularity and support. After him there comes rather numerable reps from other Namco-series like Heihachi from Tekken, KOS-MOS from Xenosaga and even Klonoa from his titular series.
Soon after that, another interesting detail rose up: one of the members in the Namdai development team was announced to be Yos-hito Higuchi, one of the directors behind Tales Of, Namco's popular action RPG series. Within this announcement, one character was quickly pointed at as the forerunner for Tales Of-representation: Lloyd Irving.
Lloyd Irving hails from from the fifth, and arguably the most popular game of the series, Tales Of Symphonia, for the Gamecube-system. (and rereleased on PS2 in Japan only).
Being young man who's rather unintelligent and brash, but well-meaning idealist, Lloyd set out to unify the worlds of Sylvarant and Tethealla after going through many life-changing events which revealed the true nature behind Journey of Regeneration in which his close friend, Colette was involved with.
Lloyd would wield two swords (preferably The Material Blades, Flamberge and Vorpal Sword) and could be comparable to Marth in means of having a reasonable range and fast attacks. However, him wielding two blades gives him a lot more versatile moves, thus granting him more options to approach his opponents and fighting against them. He also has one projectile, which is something seldomly seen on a swordsman, parring Link.
Being young man who's rather unintelligent and brash, but well-meaning idealist, Lloyd set out to unify the worlds of Sylvarant and Tethealla after going through many life-changing events which revealed the true nature behind Journey of Regeneration in which his close friend, Colette was involved with.
Lloyd would wield two swords (preferably The Material Blades, Flamberge and Vorpal Sword) and could be comparable to Marth in means of having a reasonable range and fast attacks. However, him wielding two blades gives him a lot more versatile moves, thus granting him more options to approach his opponents and fighting against them. He also has one projectile, which is something seldomly seen on a swordsman, parring Link.
Tales Of Symphonia has been known as one of the best and most popular RPGs in the Gamecube, with million copies sold worldwide. Along with this a sequel was developed exclusively for Wii and Lloyd has made couple of quest or cameo appearances in not only in other Tales Of-games, but even in other Namco's games (the most mentioned being him a playable quest character Soul Calibur Legends, also for Wii).
With this note, it's not hard to see that Tales Of Symphonia is undoubtedly one of the most well-known cult games on Gamecube, cementing itself well in history on Nintendo. And even then, has also prominent place in Tales Of-series as a whole.
Back in Brawl-days Lloyd's support was rather notable, but it has lowered to some extent due risen support of Pac-Man. Along with this is the fact that fans can't get over who they would wish to see representing Tales Of-series in general due numerable amount of protagonists from many of their main games in the series. But as Yoshi-to had mentioned, only characters viable for the game would be ones appearing on the Nintendo-system, making only Lloyd, Cless (Phantasia), Luke (Abyss), Asbel (Graces) and Ruca (Innocence) viable.
Taking in account of Symphonia's popularity and presence in Nintendo's systems and history, it would be most agreeable to fans to go with Lloyd Irving and Symphonia's representation.
With this note, it's not hard to see that Tales Of Symphonia is undoubtedly one of the most well-known cult games on Gamecube, cementing itself well in history on Nintendo. And even then, has also prominent place in Tales Of-series as a whole.
Back in Brawl-days Lloyd's support was rather notable, but it has lowered to some extent due risen support of Pac-Man. Along with this is the fact that fans can't get over who they would wish to see representing Tales Of-series in general due numerable amount of protagonists from many of their main games in the series. But as Yoshi-to had mentioned, only characters viable for the game would be ones appearing on the Nintendo-system, making only Lloyd, Cless (Phantasia), Luke (Abyss), Asbel (Graces) and Ruca (Innocence) viable.
Taking in account of Symphonia's popularity and presence in Nintendo's systems and history, it would be most agreeable to fans to go with Lloyd Irving and Symphonia's representation.
- Lloyd creates a shockwave projectile which travels on the floor, causing damage to anyone that comes in contact with it.
- Double Demon Fang:
If pressing the button rapidly, Lloyd launches another Demon Fang.
If pressing the button rapidly, Lloyd launches another Demon Fang.
- Lloyd thrusts his swords forward. if linked to the end of his other combo-canceable attacks, this attack becomes more powerful in means of damage and knockback.
- Beast
- Another option, in which Lloyd charges power and launches force in shape of a lion's head which can knock back opponents tremendously. The attack has some amount of startup lag though.
- Lloyd spins in a circle in the air several times, whipping both swords around himself.(Could also be his Neutral Air.)
- Tiger Blade
- Lloyd jumps and slashes his sword twice in the air. If he connects Tiger Blade with an opponent on the ground, this attack would become Tiger Rage, a more advanced technique where Lloyd now slashes the enemy few times and then slams him down.
- Lloyd stabs the enemy rapidly with his sword. Another attack that is a great combo starter and can link to other potential finishers.
Final Smash: Falcon's Crest
When pressing the button, Lloyd would thrust his sword forward. If it connects, the opponents will be stunned as Lloyd channels energy in his Material Blades. As he focuses, spiraling vortex of blue energy rages up from the magic circle rapidly damaging opponents and trapping them within the circle.
Lloyd then leaps into the air, pausing for a moment to yell out "Divine Justice!" while he combines his two swords into Eternal Sword.
Lloyd then falls back to the ground slamming down the Eternal Sword, while yelling "Falcon's Crest!" thus generating a large, spherical explosion of blue energy which blasts opponents away.
- This causes immense damage and knockback and can potentially KO or at least launch opponents far away in range due the colossal shockwave that occurs during the move.
Lloyd then leaps into the air, pausing for a moment to yell out "Divine Justice!" while he combines his two swords into Eternal Sword.
Lloyd then falls back to the ground slamming down the Eternal Sword, while yelling "Falcon's Crest!" thus generating a large, spherical explosion of blue energy which blasts opponents away.
- This causes immense damage and knockback and can potentially KO or at least launch opponents far away in range due the colossal shockwave that occurs during the move.
- 30-45% Damage, high vertical knockback
[collapse= Falcon Crest in Tales of Symphonia (animated)]
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What would set Lloyd apart from other swordsmen is him emphasizing on combo-canceling techniques. In ToS he could link certain attacks to others or even create new techs or artes that were combinations of those attacks. This could be translated to Super Smash Bros 4, in which he'd be able to cancel certain attacks and link them to others.
The way this would be utilized by either cancelling the last hit in moves such as Tempest and Sword Rain, or by cancelling the last 20 frames for Demon Fang:
For example, if you want to use Tempest Beast , you would have to first use Tempest (Up B), then cancel the last hit of Tempest and immediately follow up with Beast (Side B). With this kind of a playstyle, Lloyd would have lots of depth while maintaining his versatility for any players to pick him up.
Lloyd could also use combo-canceling mechanic to perform advanced techniques such as Tempest Thrust, Sword Rain Alpha, Raining Tiger Blade, etc. Here's the potential combo-canceable techniques, all imported from Tales Of Symphonia and translated to Smash Bros:
The way this would be utilized by either cancelling the last hit in moves such as Tempest and Sword Rain, or by cancelling the last 20 frames for Demon Fang:
For example, if you want to use Tempest Beast , you would have to first use Tempest (Up B), then cancel the last hit of Tempest and immediately follow up with Beast (Side B). With this kind of a playstyle, Lloyd would have lots of depth while maintaining his versatility for any players to pick him up.
Lloyd could also use combo-canceling mechanic to perform advanced techniques such as Tempest Thrust, Sword Rain Alpha, Raining Tiger Blade, etc. Here's the potential combo-canceable techniques, all imported from Tales Of Symphonia and translated to Smash Bros:
- Demonic Chaos: Demon Fang x3. Cancel the last 20 frames of the first two Demon Fangs.
- Sword Rain Alpha: Sword Rain + Aerial Up. Cancel the last hit of Sword Rain and follow up with Aerial Up.
- Sword Rain Beta: Sword Rain + Aerial Up + Aerial Neutral. Cancel the last hit of Sword Rain and follow up with Aerial Up and Aerial Neutral.
- Sword Rain Tempest: Sword Rain + Tempest. Cancel the last hit of Sword Rain and follow up with Tempest.
- Demonic Thrust: Demon Fang + Sonic Thrust. Cancel the last 20 frames of Demon Fang and follow up with Sonic Thrust.
- Demonic Tiger Blade: Demon Fang + Tiger Blade. Cancel the last 20 frames of Demon Fang and follow up with Tiger Blade.
- Tempest Thrust: Tempest + Sonic Thrust. Cancel the last hit of Tempest and follow up with Sonic Thrust.
- Tempest Beast: Tempest + Beast. Cancel the last hit of Tempest and follow up with Beast.
- Raining Tiger Blade: Sword Rain + Tiger Blade. Cancel the last hit of Sword Rain and follow up with Tiger Blade.
- Beast Sword Rain: Sword Rain + Beast. Cancel the last hit of Sword Rain and follow up with Beast.
Credits for Kikaru for the playstyle ideas!
- Arguments and Counterarguments
- Yoshi-to and Yoshimizu on inclusion of Tales Of-characters in Smash Bros
- Hideo Baba on Symphonia being most popular Tales Of-game in the West
*Work in progress*
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Apple Gel
"A gelatin-based medication. Restores 30% of Max HP."
- A standard healing item from Tales Of-series. Apple Gel would differ from other healing items by reducing 30% of your max % damage.
- A standard healing item from Tales Of-series. Apple Gel would differ from other healing items by reducing 30% of your max % damage.
Lemon Gel
- Essentially a better version of Apple Gel. This is rather uncommon but would be prominent more in harder difficulties of single-player modes.
- Can revive a fallen character in Adventure Mode or Tag Mode (provided there's one), but they will have some penalty, such as starting off with a higher percent.
- Tales of Symphonia
[collapse="Battle Themes"]- Fighting of the Spirit -
(Summon Spirit Battle Theme)
( - Here's the original version from Tales Of Phantasia, the first game in the series. -)
- Fatalize -
(Major NPC Boss Theme)
- Keep Your Guard Up! -
(Yuan & Botta Battle Theme)
- Like a Glint of Light -
(Tethealla Map Battle)
( - Remixed Version from DoTNW here
- And Soul Calibur Legends-version here )
- Beat the Angel -
(Cruxis Angels Battle Theme)
- Full Force -
(Sylvarant Map Battle)
(Remixed Version from DoTNW here)
- End Of A Thought -
(Kratos Battle Theme)
[/collapse](Summon Spirit Battle Theme)
( - Here's the original version from Tales Of Phantasia, the first game in the series. -)
- Fatalize -
(Major NPC Boss Theme)
- Keep Your Guard Up! -
(Yuan & Botta Battle Theme)
- Like a Glint of Light -
(Tethealla Map Battle)
( - Remixed Version from DoTNW here
- And Soul Calibur Legends-version here )
- Beat the Angel -
(Cruxis Angels Battle Theme)
- Full Force -
(Sylvarant Map Battle)
(Remixed Version from DoTNW here)
- End Of A Thought -
(Kratos Battle Theme)
[collapse="Various Themes"]
- Old Familiar Scent of Iselia -
(Iselia Theme)
- Escape from Enemy Base -
(Tethealla Base Theme)
- A Snow Light-
(Flanoir Theme)
- Desert Flower -
(Triet Theme)
- Walking on Tethe'Alla -
(Tethealla Overworld)
- Derris Kharlan Shrine -
(Derris Kharlan Inner Base Theme)
(Iselia Theme)
- Escape from Enemy Base -
(Tethealla Base Theme)
- A Snow Light-
(Flanoir Theme)
- Desert Flower -
(Triet Theme)
- Walking on Tethe'Alla -
(Tethealla Overworld)
- Derris Kharlan Shrine -
(Derris Kharlan Inner Base Theme)
[/collapse]
Suggestions from other Tales-games are welcome!
- ToS2: Dawn Of The New World
[COLLAPSE="Battle Themes"]- With Courage -
(Boss Battle Theme)
- The Wilderness of Sadness-
(Final Boss Battle)
(I personally wish these two to become a medley.)
[/COLLAPSE](Boss Battle Theme)
- The Wilderness of Sadness-
(Final Boss Battle)
(I personally wish these two to become a medley.)
(Things SSB4 could borrow from Tales Of-series)
- Linear Battle Motion System (SSB-like engine but with customizable, upgradaeble Special Moves/Artes.)
- GRADE-system (Gain "Grade" from battles depending on your performance, use it to buy new upgrades, features and so on. Single-Player mode only.)
- "Character "super portraits" when one activates his Final Smash, similar to Tales Of's Mystic Arte/Hi-Ougis Unleashes' portraits.
- Victory quotes for certain combinations of characters.
- Signatures:
(A swell showcase of how he could play generally in Smash Bros-games. There's even combo-cancealing mechanic implemented. )
- Snake Codec (By Swampasaur)
Otacon: Ah... You're fighting Lloyd, aren't you Snake?
Snake: The kid with two swords?
Otacan: Yes. Him! He's a powerful warrior who fought to bring two falling worlds together.
Snake: Two worlds huh? Kind of like what I'm in now?
Otacon: Uh... well....
Snake: Maybe I can ask him about this whole thing later. What weapons does he have?
Otacon: Well...he uses the eternal sword. Which is...two swords really. One sword has the power of fire while the other has the power of ice. He's an expert on swordplay so stay on your toes!
Snake: A kid who's good with swords saving the world huh? Where have I heard this before?
Snake: The kid with two swords?
Otacan: Yes. Him! He's a powerful warrior who fought to bring two falling worlds together.
Snake: Two worlds huh? Kind of like what I'm in now?
Otacon: Uh... well....
Snake: Maybe I can ask him about this whole thing later. What weapons does he have?
Otacon: Well...he uses the eternal sword. Which is...two swords really. One sword has the power of fire while the other has the power of ice. He's an expert on swordplay so stay on your toes!
Snake: A kid who's good with swords saving the world huh? Where have I heard this before?
Sylvaranti and Tetheallans
- Young Horsetail
- Kikaru
- Shinpichu
- Swampasaur
- Falkoopa
- Frostwraith
- CoolDaddyBootyFunk
- ScoliosisJones
- Popsydoodles
- Omega-Smasher
- .Alone
- ImaClubYou
- _Sheik
- ShyKChan
- Altais
- Azure Warrior
- ImaClubYou
- Sonic Buddha Ingoro
- SunnyDust
- JeremySama
- kikaru
- Ryun Sakai
- BombKirby
- SmashBros99
- Gaiablade64
- Mikegamer0608
- belmontzar
- Icedragonadam
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