JavaCroc
Smash Ace
Well, here goes. This is my first attempt at a character roster. Some of these choices are obviously of the “wishlist” variety, but I put them in for good reason (or at least reasons good enough for me). The character roster also defines who is exclusive to either system, and therefore, contains the 3DS and Wii U rosters in it. I’ve provided some explanations behind my choices and the roster character numbers below the roster.
Note: All characters exclusive to the 3DS version can be imported into the Wii U version, provided that the player of course have a copy of both versions.
*= indicates unlockable character
[Wii U] [3DS]= indicates if a character is exclusive to one of the two systems
Here are the numbers for my roster:
Now then, some explanations behind my character choices:
[COLLAPSE="Explanations"]Two New Mario Characters – Some people want Bowser Jr. Other people want Toad or Paper Mario. I say that, given that the next game is on two systems and the rosters can be different from each other, why not add both? Toad or Paper Mario is on the 3DS version, while Bowser Jr. can be played on the Wii U version. If you import the 3DS characters into the Wii U game, that means that the Mario series will have a net amount of 6 characters (not including sub-series characters) – giving it a true reign over other character franchises.
Two New Metroid Characters – In my opinion, Metroid has become a modern franchise extremely important to Nintendo and very likely to spawn more games in the future. Realizing it’s significance now, I think even two characters is a small amount for the franchise, considering that Kirby and especially Star Fox have three characters and have had large gaps between their game releases during the 20th century (Kirby: 2006-2010, not including the Kirby Super Star remake; Star Fox: 2006-2011). I realize that we will likely only get one new Metroid character, but this roster is more of my wishlist than a real roster prediction.
Ridley/Meta Ridley Combination – Although these characters do swap out between each other, this isn’t done in the traditional Zelda/Sheik or Pokemon Trainer fashion. Instead, the player starts as either character; I’ll use normal Ridley in this example. After the players dies as Ridley, Ridley doesn’t just respawn; he is “rebuilt” and spawns instead as Meta Ridley, who has some moveset and attribute differences from his natural counterpart. When Meta Ridley dies, he is “reborn” as Ridley. I thought this feature helps distinguish Ridley from other characters and makes good use of both his normal form and Meta Ridley form.
Ike/Micaiah/Caeda/New FE Character – Although there has been no announcements, there will probably be a new Fire Emblem game with different lords in the future, and that game will probably need representation. That characters would probably swap out with Ike or the third Fire Emblem spot - not both, obviously. However, if no character really fits the bill for the next game, then Ike can stay and the third spot can be chosen between Caeda or Micaiah.
Character from Any Franchise New to Smash Bros. – I have no idea who would fill in this space; it could a retro character or a new franchise character. Smash Bros. on the 3DS will probably have a retro character, but I have no idea who it could be. At the same time, I could see a character from a potential new franchise - such as the armadillo from Rolling Western - as being added. It's up in the air for me.
Tetris Block – Firstly, you know you want him. Secondly, he has got some of the advantages that a retro-ish WTF third party character would need: he has historical significance for Nintendo, both for spurring sales of the original Game Boy and for all later Nintendo re-releases and spin-offs of Tetris. Although he is technically third-party since the Tetris Company owns the rights to the game, seeing as how the company has allowed Nintendo to make so many spin-offs and re-releases, the two should have a friendly and cooperative relationship.
One of the problems that you could associate with Tetris Block is possible lack of moveset potential. But he actually has decent moveset potential. I’ve seen an image on the Internet that provided an entire, comprehensive moveset for him. Unfortunately, I don’t have the picture on me, and I can’t find the image anywhere on the Internet. Still, I can think some of it off the top of my head, and I might post a partial moveset later.
I do realize his real chances in the next game are absolutely zero. But I think he (or rather “it”) and his franchise is deserving of recognition.[/COLLAPSE]
And that is my ideal character roster. Feel free to comment with constructive criticism - I'm not expecting my roster to be perfect, and I'm sure my reasoning is off. Again, this roster is more of a "wishlist" roster than a "predicted" roster, but was made with thought behind each character. I plan to eventually create a couple of simple diagrams of how this roster would look like on the character selection screens.
By the way, Iblis, I have a Ridley/Meta Ridley moveset myself that I plan to upload, but would like to post your moveset first?
Edit: Since I have a feeling that Tetris Block won't prove very popular, know that I would substitute him with either another "Character from Any Franchise New to Smash Bros." spot or with either Slime, Bomberman, or Pac-Man as the other third-party character.
Note: All characters exclusive to the 3DS version can be imported into the Wii U version, provided that the player of course have a copy of both versions.
*= indicates unlockable character
[Wii U] [3DS]= indicates if a character is exclusive to one of the two systems
- Mario
- Luigi *
- Peach [Wii U]
- Bowser [Wii U]
- Bowser Jr. * [Wii U]
- Toad OR Paper Mario * [3DS]
- Donkey Kong
- Diddy Kong
- King K. Rool * [Wii U]
- Yoshi
- Wario
- Link
- Zelda/Sheik
- Ganondorf * [Wii U]
- Toon Link *
- Samus/Zero Suit Samus
- Dark Samus * [3DS]
- Ridley/Meta Ridley * [Wii U]
- Kirby
- King Dedede
- Metaknight * [Wii U]
- Fox
- Wolf
- Falco * [Wii U]
- Marth
- Ike OR New Fire Emblem Character
- Micaiah OR Caeda OR New Fire Emblem Character * [Wii U]
- Captain Falcon
- Samurai Goroh * [Wii U]
- Ness
- Lucas * [Wii U]
- Pit
- Medusa * [3DS]
- Pikachu
- Jigglypuff *
- Pokemon Trainer (Squirtle, Ivysaur, Charizard) [Wii U]
- Zoroark OR Genesect * [3DS]
- Victini OR Meowth * [Wii U]
- Olimar
- Little Mac
- Isaac * [3DS]
- Starfy * [3DS]
- Chibi-Robo * [Wii U]
- Ray MK # * [Wii U]
- Ice Climbers
- R.O.B.
- Alice [Wii U]
- Mr. Game & Watch *
- Takamaru * [Wii U]
- Character from Any Franchise New to Smash Bros. * [3DS]
- Snake [Wii U]
- Sonic [Wii U]
- Megaman
- Tetris Block * [Wii U] (THE “Retro-ish WTF Third-Party Character With Zero Chance of Getting In” Character)
- The "Random" box on the character selection screen
Here are the numbers for my roster:
- 29 Starting Characters
- 26 Unlockable Characters
- 34-33 Veterans (depends on Ike)
- 20 Newcomers
- 32 3DS Characters
- 47 Wii U Characters
- 54 Total Characters
- 58 Total Characters (including transformations and the 2nd Ice Climber)
Now then, some explanations behind my character choices:
[COLLAPSE="Explanations"]Two New Mario Characters – Some people want Bowser Jr. Other people want Toad or Paper Mario. I say that, given that the next game is on two systems and the rosters can be different from each other, why not add both? Toad or Paper Mario is on the 3DS version, while Bowser Jr. can be played on the Wii U version. If you import the 3DS characters into the Wii U game, that means that the Mario series will have a net amount of 6 characters (not including sub-series characters) – giving it a true reign over other character franchises.
Two New Metroid Characters – In my opinion, Metroid has become a modern franchise extremely important to Nintendo and very likely to spawn more games in the future. Realizing it’s significance now, I think even two characters is a small amount for the franchise, considering that Kirby and especially Star Fox have three characters and have had large gaps between their game releases during the 20th century (Kirby: 2006-2010, not including the Kirby Super Star remake; Star Fox: 2006-2011). I realize that we will likely only get one new Metroid character, but this roster is more of my wishlist than a real roster prediction.
Ridley/Meta Ridley Combination – Although these characters do swap out between each other, this isn’t done in the traditional Zelda/Sheik or Pokemon Trainer fashion. Instead, the player starts as either character; I’ll use normal Ridley in this example. After the players dies as Ridley, Ridley doesn’t just respawn; he is “rebuilt” and spawns instead as Meta Ridley, who has some moveset and attribute differences from his natural counterpart. When Meta Ridley dies, he is “reborn” as Ridley. I thought this feature helps distinguish Ridley from other characters and makes good use of both his normal form and Meta Ridley form.
Ike/Micaiah/Caeda/New FE Character – Although there has been no announcements, there will probably be a new Fire Emblem game with different lords in the future, and that game will probably need representation. That characters would probably swap out with Ike or the third Fire Emblem spot - not both, obviously. However, if no character really fits the bill for the next game, then Ike can stay and the third spot can be chosen between Caeda or Micaiah.
Character from Any Franchise New to Smash Bros. – I have no idea who would fill in this space; it could a retro character or a new franchise character. Smash Bros. on the 3DS will probably have a retro character, but I have no idea who it could be. At the same time, I could see a character from a potential new franchise - such as the armadillo from Rolling Western - as being added. It's up in the air for me.
Tetris Block – Firstly, you know you want him. Secondly, he has got some of the advantages that a retro-ish WTF third party character would need: he has historical significance for Nintendo, both for spurring sales of the original Game Boy and for all later Nintendo re-releases and spin-offs of Tetris. Although he is technically third-party since the Tetris Company owns the rights to the game, seeing as how the company has allowed Nintendo to make so many spin-offs and re-releases, the two should have a friendly and cooperative relationship.
One of the problems that you could associate with Tetris Block is possible lack of moveset potential. But he actually has decent moveset potential. I’ve seen an image on the Internet that provided an entire, comprehensive moveset for him. Unfortunately, I don’t have the picture on me, and I can’t find the image anywhere on the Internet. Still, I can think some of it off the top of my head, and I might post a partial moveset later.
I do realize his real chances in the next game are absolutely zero. But I think he (or rather “it”) and his franchise is deserving of recognition.[/COLLAPSE]
And that is my ideal character roster. Feel free to comment with constructive criticism - I'm not expecting my roster to be perfect, and I'm sure my reasoning is off. Again, this roster is more of a "wishlist" roster than a "predicted" roster, but was made with thought behind each character. I plan to eventually create a couple of simple diagrams of how this roster would look like on the character selection screens.
By the way, Iblis, I have a Ridley/Meta Ridley moveset myself that I plan to upload, but would like to post your moveset first?
Edit: Since I have a feeling that Tetris Block won't prove very popular, know that I would substitute him with either another "Character from Any Franchise New to Smash Bros." spot or with either Slime, Bomberman, or Pac-Man as the other third-party character.
