MDL0 files from Non-Brawl games

OizenX · Feb 26, 2010

Vishkugeta said:
Oh, and it doesn't work in Brawlbox either. It says "unable to recognize input file".

I'm guessing Unlimited Cruise Episode 1 and 2 use the same format?

Unfortunately.

Looks like all One Piece Games use the same format.

Stoney · Feb 26, 2010

NAMQ_DrunkeNFeasT said:
reposting since I got ignored

http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=9664770&postcount=2811

will do again, so plz, answer, anyone can help me with that?

I used Camtasia Studio to record my computer screen and turn the result into an Animated GIF. Camtasia is really nice for recordings, and it comes with a 30-day free trial, which is awesome.

Download the free trial and search in Camtasia's help menu for "Animated GIF", it'll tell you how to make one. It'll also tell you everything else you need to know about how to use Camtasia if you read the other topics in the help section.

KingDryBones · Feb 26, 2010

hey guys! just letting you all know something about some New Super Mario Wii .brres files...
some characters (like Lakitu for instance) have 2 mdl0's inside it or even more so you have to manually edit the second or third ones before actually editing the first one.

i tried some .brres files and found out about this!
the ones i tried were:
Lakitu (Jugem) - has 2 MDL0's that need to be hexed
Thwomp (Dossun) - has 3 MDL0's that need to be hexed
Spiny Koopa (Togezo) - has 2 MDL0's like Lakitu

always remember to look inside the .brres files inside the hex editor... you never know how many mdl0's it might have!

Captain Kwark · Feb 26, 2010

Stoney said:
4. The purple bytes show where the definitions header begins (I think that's what it's called, it might be different in animation files). Go to the beginning of the MDL0 header and jump forward that amount of bytes (in Hex Workshop, use Edit> Goto, then put "0000002C" in the text box. Make sure the From Where field has "Current Position" selected). The definitions header usually starts with "000004X8" in these files, with X being some random number (in this example it is 00000498). Insert four "FF" bytes before it.

This is the Step where I get confused.

Stoney · Feb 26, 2010

Captain Kwark said:
This is the Step where I get confused.

*sigh* I should've explained that step better. Time for pictures!

Either put the cursor at the beginning of the file and select "Current Position" or put the cursor anywhere you want and select "Beginning of File".

Now go do Step 5.

AMKalmar · Feb 26, 2010

KingDryBones said:
hey guys! just letting you all know something about some New Super Mario Wii .brres files...
some characters (like Lakitu for instance) have 2 mdl0's inside it or even more so you have to manually edit the second or third ones before actually editing the first one.

i tried some .brres files and found out about this!
the ones i tried were:
Lakitu (Jugem) - has 2 MDL0's that need to be hexed
Thwomp (Dossun) - has 3 MDL0's that need to be hexed
Spiny Koopa (Togezo) - has 2 MDL0's like Lakitu

always remember to look inside the .brres files inside the hex editor... you never know how many mdl0's it might have!

Most of the models I've hexed from that game have more than 1. Toad has 8.

lol next post

TommoPuppy · Feb 26, 2010

OizenX said:
Add this to the list of games that do not have mdl0
One Piece: Unlimited Adventure (.AAR)

A piratey file extension for a piratey game. Excellent.

b2j135 · Feb 26, 2010

TommoPuppy said:
A piratey file extension for a piratey game. Excellent.

I lol'd
10lols

NAMQ_DrunkeNFeasT · Feb 26, 2010

Stoney said:
I used Camtasia Studio to record my computer screen and turn the result into an Animated GIF. Camtasia is really nice for recordings, and it comes with a 30-day free trial, which is awesome.

Download the free trial and search in Camtasia's help menu for "Animated GIF", it'll tell you how to make one. It'll also tell you everything else you need to know about how to use Camtasia if you read the other topics in the help section.

thx for the reply I'll be looking forward to it

KingDryBones · Feb 26, 2010

please add this game to the list that do not have mdl0
Super Paper Mario (file type is just called "file")

also although it doesn't have any mdl0's it does contain brstm's for those of you who like to use custom music ^.^

fortwaffles · Feb 26, 2010

KingDryBones said:
please add this game to the list that do not have mdl0
Super Paper Mario (file type is just called "file")

also although it doesn't have any mdl0's it does contain brstm's for those of you who like to use custom music ^.^

dont use those... the songs are twice the speed, so in brawl they will sound sped up.

Wacka Alpaca · Feb 26, 2010

Hey, I seem to have been jumped over earlier.
I posted my success with the new tutorial, AND a question.
i guess most just stopped reading.
ANYWAY,
when i go to do the size fixer, it runs, and then goes "Not responding"
reasons why anyone?

Camonsters · Feb 26, 2010

..........

ThatGuyYouMightKnow · Feb 26, 2010

Wacka Alpaca said:
Hey, I seem to have been jumped over earlier.
I posted my success with the new tutorial, AND a question.
i guess most just stopped reading.
ANYWAY,
when i go to do the size fixer, it runs, and then goes "Not responding"
reasons why anyone?

Some TvC models don't work with the resizer.

RandomTBush · Feb 26, 2010

ThatGuyYouMightKnow said:
Most models don't work with the resizer.

Fixed. Most of the models I tried don't work, actually. Not just the TvC models, but ones from other games crash the program, too.

fortwaffles · Feb 26, 2010

i still dont know why it does that... it crashes after resizing the bones
i guess it's safe to say it is better than nothing...

StarWaffle · Feb 26, 2010

Thanks for the automatic hexer! it makes life so much simpler :D

kangaroogreen · Feb 26, 2010

Hurr Hurr Larry and Lemmy

Larry

Lemmy

Jigiba · Feb 26, 2010

hey urm...i got a game and the all the files from the character (his name is Boris) were: BORIS.bsf, Boris_anims.cmg, and Boris.cmg...

Am I able to put him in brawl?

OizenX · Feb 26, 2010

Where can I get a .CPK extractor?

ds22 · Feb 26, 2010

OizenX said:
Where can I get a .CPK extractor?

Here's a .zip which contains a .cpk extractor.
http://hcs64.com/files/utf_tab05.zip

Anyway, asking out of the random, did you manage to fix the Valley of the End stage?

pokelover980 · Feb 26, 2010

Jigiba said:
hey urm...i got a game and the all the files from the character (his name is Boris) were: BORIS.bsf, Boris_anims.cmg, and Boris.cmg...

Am I able to put him in brawl?

No, it has to be MDL0.

GP&B · Feb 26, 2010

Jigiba said:
hey urm...i got a game and the all the files from the character (his name is Boris) were: BORIS.bsf, Boris_anims.cmg, and Boris.cmg...

Am I able to put him in brawl?

Has to be MDL0. Until we/RandomTBush learns a method for converting and hexing files of different formats, any game that appears under the list of "Does not have MDL0's" can't have models imported.

Err technically, I thought RandomTBush did import a model of different format. IIRC, it took him quite a while.
EDIT: Ninja'd

TommoPuppy · Feb 26, 2010

Yeah it was almost an entirely manual process.

RandomTBush · Feb 26, 2010

TommoPuppy said:
Yeah it was almost an entirely manual process.

Yes, it was, and so far I still don't know how to make rigged models, as I don't know how the BoneDef1, BoneDef2 and BoneDef3 are set up in the polygon groups.

diosensakiara · Feb 26, 2010

:BREAKING NEWS:

Walking is POSSIBLE.
Now we just need to know how they did it. =)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRJfouSAi0Y

Senjen · Feb 26, 2010

don't know if anyone likes digimon here but .... and i don't know if u can rip anything from gamecube or ps2 but here's a game of digimon i thought of

http://i.neoseeker.com/boxshots/R2F..._arena_2_frontcover_large_EUuu6QJnexST3om.jpg

it would be interesting seeing digimon in brawl XD

RandomTBush · Feb 26, 2010

diosensakiara said:
:BREAKING NEWS:

Walking is POSSIBLE.
Now we just need to know how they did it. =)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRJfouSAi0Y

I think we already do know.

Let's say that Zero was put over Link. Link's "motion" bone is the fourth one, listed as "TransN". The way Brawl detects movement is by detecting a certain bone's index, not the name, so to get Zero to move when placed over Link, you would have to move his fourth bone, which is "lhand01".

I believe that's how it's done. I haven't tried it yet.

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Zeruel21 · Feb 26, 2010

RandomTBush said:
I think we already do know.

Let's say that Zero was put over Link. Link's "motion" bone is the fourth one, listed as "TransN". The way Brawl detects movement is by detecting a certain bone's index, not the name, so to get Zero to move over him, you would have to move his fourth bone, which is "lhand01".

I believe that's how it's done. I haven't tried it yet.

Yes, people worked that out a while ago when making characters from assist trophies or SSE enemies. Brawl does movement by allowing the animation to move the character initially, and then tracking the position of the TransN bone after the animation to reposition them. As a result, you do have to rename the bone with that index TransN.

Overdrive64 · Feb 26, 2010

So i don't know if bone counts work out right... but i had an idea for a project.
Putting Rya and Tekkaman over Zelda and Shiek; to simlate the playstyle of Tatsunoco vs Capcom.
If the bones yould fit i think sheik would be a great tekkaman base and zelda to ryu

diosensakiara · Feb 26, 2010

Zeruel21 said:
Yes, people worked that out a while ago when making characters from assist trophies or SSE enemies. Brawl does movement by allowing the animation to move the character initially, and then tracking the position of the TransN bone after the animation to reposition them. As a result, you do have to rename the bone with that index TransN.

Then why arent you telling Digiholic this?HEZ workin his *** off trying to make Megaman Volnutt walk,poor guy.

Senjen · Feb 26, 2010

this is kinda of a stupid question but is anyone going to give their character like klonoa for example a storyline in the subspace emissary. or are u just making the characters for vs?

and will they work online as well?

shock44 · Feb 26, 2010

Senjen said:
this is kinda of a stupid question but is anyone going to give their character like klonoa for example a storyline in the subspace emissary. or are u just making the characters for vs?

and will they work online as well?

It'll probably work online. But as for SSE, we would have to figure out how to change the pre-rendered cutscenes in brawl. Which I don't think will be done till sometime towards the end of brawlbox's development. You can play as hacked characters in SSE, but once I tried playing as an alloy and it wouldn't let me without freezing.

ThatGuyYouMightKnow · Feb 26, 2010

Vishkugeta said:
(plus games outside of Wii won't have MDL0)

We already established this to be false.

pokelover980 · Feb 26, 2010

ThatGuyYouMightKnow said:
We already established this to be false.

Exactly, it should say that games outside of Nintendo systems don't have MDL0's. Unless that has been established false, which I doubt since MDL0 is Ninty's format basically.

-BigSharkZ- · Feb 26, 2010

kangaroogreen said:
Hurr Hurr Larry and Lemmy

Larry

Lemmy

Awesome, they really look like the models I have made for Bowser Jr. a long time ago. I plan on using the NSMBW models instead (Mind sending me them?).

Also, I ask for the 500th time, anyone knows why WWPacker is not working for me? Is there an alternate program?

Senjen · Feb 26, 2010

what format is crash bandicoot mind over? i bet theres a few crash bandicoot fans here ...

http://littleimg.com/files/2096_fbvpl/Crash Bandicoot MOM.jpg

ps its a wii game yay XD

and theres two chrash bandicoot games for the wii ...

im also amazed no spyro games have been ripped as well ...

InTrepidCognito · Feb 26, 2010

InTrepidCognito said:
GAH! Even with this new fancy way of importing Brawl models, I just CANNOT get my Balloon Fighter to work. It comes in one BRRES with the rest of the data for the microgame for it on WarioWare: Smooth Moves, which is Balloon Trip (I think it's a minigame you unlock and try to get a high score on, if you've ever played WW:SM). I tried removing all models except for BalloonFight_Char_Model.mdl0 and doing the automated hex fixer by FortWaffles, and... nothing. I can open it up and view the Materials, Bones, etc. but it still just shows the bones on model viewer. If someone can help me, please PM me, and sorry for the wall.

I just keep getting ignored...

joshl94 · Feb 26, 2010

can anyone help me with resizing ryu?

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