Fourth and final community vote about Meta Knight.

[Bizkit047]

But im not, an Im flattered i drew enough attention to attract a wise and very observant person as yourself thank you for your conclusion im intrigued really

No problem man, glad you think so highly of me.

 

[Rudementry]

M2k gave up at Genesis to keep MK in. He still managed to get the most money from Genesis, yet let Ally win. Randomly air dodging into Ally's attacks? No. He was just eating stuff.

MK needs to be banned, I mean I play fox and I've gotten just about every kind of hard countered, but when someone counters MK, I can't counter them back. It breaks the system.


Edit:

i have no problems mit MK,so i vote for "no" =D

Come to America.

 

[lcampoy8]

Anti-ban because I haven't lost to a metaknight yet. Counterpicks ahoy!

Also, brawl can suck a big joey d**k.

what counterpick? >_>

 

[PolMex23]

Ayo Polmex


WHY DO YOU WANT META KNIGHT BANNED

Scrubby luigis still won't place even if he's gone.

Yo lets start the personal insults...!!! YAY

Ayo Anti...

Get at me when your ****** *** ****s a ***** that would be the day. Than Mk might be banned.

Get your soft *** out of this thread

 

[judge!]

Woooah one TL player against one IC player

And like, the best IC player too.
*rolls eyes*

wooooooooah vs the best tl *rolls eyes*

 

[Master Raven]

Everyone just laugh at whatever POF posts because he's way too hilarious for me to put on my ignore list.

 

[raydude]

what about snake ?

 

[PK-ow!]

It seems the case of the MK stalling at Genesis wasn't addressed.

Additionally, I am... very intrigued by the statement that MK always has a safe option. Could that not be demonstrated on paper, and if so, is it not then simply a matter of "Assume Theory Fighter; MK can't give an opening, he's unbeatable", done?

I thought the anti essay was not written as well as the pro one, but that won't mean too much.

It seemed MK really had a case against him... but the other essay just denies some of the claims. For my vote, I need to know, who answers to authorship of the pro-ban paper? On whose head are those facts being admitted as evidence?


I want this to be settled. But all I can think is how afraid I would be to have MK banned if it's not right.

I also believe I spotted a fallacy in the anti-ban paper, but it will be hard to tug out.
EDIT: Well I mean they both have some fallacies; more like unimportant points, mainly, but this one is a hole in what seems to be one of the central thrusts.

 

[ANTi_]

Yo lets start the personal insults...!!! YAY

Ayo Anti...

Get at me when your ****** *** ****s a ***** that would be the day. Than Mk might be banned.

Get your soft *** out of this thread

Oh you mad?

 

[PolMex23]

No problem man, glad you think so highly of me.

No prob dude I like people as yourself shows your strong minded an dont give a ****.

OThers not so much

 

[Sosuke]

wooooooooah vs the best tl *rolls eyes*

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lol @ you

 

[Master Raven]

M2k gave up at Genesis to keep MK in.

cognitive dissonance ftw

 

[PolMex23]

Oh you mad?

Naw you mad

And horny

8===D insert somewhere an holla at me ill buy you a cookie xD

 

[Kamikaze*]

M2k gave up at Genesis to keep MK in. He still managed to get the most money from Genesis, yet let Ally win. Randomly air dodging into Ally's attacks? No. He was just eating stuff.

MK needs to be banned, I mean I play fox and I've gotten just about every kind of hard countered, but when someone counters MK, I can't counter them back. It breaks the system.


Edit:



Come to America.

You dumb C***, M2K would never sand bag. He said it himself how much he hates it.

BTW, There are other characters besides MK that make fox unviable. Do your mother****ing research next time.

 

[Gamegenie222]

random ideas in my mind:

1. banning pika and kirby in ssb64

2. what about making a new smashboards, if mk gets banned at swf, so that we can laugh at this board if they go to our tourneys and get ***** by MKs, because having no experience at all

3. japan will **** america in the future, if MK gets banned? =)
I want to see the reaction of japanese players to the ban, lmao

4. I want to see how many people will look up at the backroom any more (maybe people start running their tourneys with their own rules without banning MK)

hahahah xD

dont take this post too seriously

Want does the Japan players think about this banning anyway? are they going to laugh at us and calls us fools for doing this or what.

 

[Zephil]

wow this thread is making all the new SBR noobs appear...

 

[ETWIST51294]

I hate MK cuz hes Jigglymarth.

 

[Kamikaze*]

what about snake ?

Snake has 3 bad match-ups.

 

[IcyLight]

Everyone just laugh at whatever POF posts because he's way too hilarious for me to put on my ignore list.

 

[Coyn3Masta]

Get at me when your ****** *** ****s a ***** that would be the day.

omg shooting stars, -makes a wish-

 

[ShinoBee]

Short Answer: No banning.

I would provide some convoluted reason as to why, but I'm too lazy. Just give the metagame more time to grow and expand and eventually MK will have some counters or anti-tactics.

This, right up here yo.

 

[Sails]

There are sadly too many people who have little knowledge of how influential MK's overpowered-ness is to the competitive scene. This can be classified as "I don't know enough about it so whatever", "I never played a good MK", and "I'm voting No for the lulz".

I'm glad this is how our SWF overseers will judge this debacle. /s

 

[Staco]

Lmao.
Look at the winning table.
MK won as clsoe as double as much tourneys than Snake.
BUT
oh, wait!
Snake wont as close as double as much tourneys than the following chars? :o

Ban Snake1!1!!

LMAO xD

 

[Kamikaze*]

I hate MK cuz hes Jigglymarth.

Technically, he's more like kirbymarth because he's a kirby under his mask.

 

[ETWIST51294]

Technically, he's more like kirbymarth because he's a kirby under his mask.

Technically, yeah your right. But in melee I hate Jiggs and I hate Marth and MKs a mixture of the 2 lol. but I main him...

 

[KoRoBeNiKi]

oh man i can't wait to see what the 12 year olds and wifi community thinks about this debate

this poll is serious business

Typh won this post on the first page

Antiban.

Why do pro-ban people hid behind the fact that he is bannable instead of learning how to face him.

As said, No Johns, learn to play

 

[Master Raven]

if he gets banned I won't get to play with my V skin :[

 

[P. O. F.]

Everyone just laugh at whatever POF posts because he's way too hilarious for me to put on my ignore list.

You should keep trolling.

 

[Rudementry]

You dumb C***, M2K would never sand bag. He said it himself how much he hates it.

BTW, There are other characters besides MK that make fox unviable. Do your mother****ing research next time.

Ok did you not read what I said? I said I've been all kinds of hard countered. I think I know my own character rofl.

Sheik, ZSS, PIKA, etc.

If you had paid any attention, I never said once that banning MK makes fox viable. I said it allows me to counterpick. I can counterpick a Pikachu, a Sheik, a Zero Suit Samus. I can't counterpick an MK. And you are really Naive. I know more about brawl fox than you will ever learn in your life. Unless your name is R00kie or Zeton, shut up about fox to me.

 

[¯\_S.(ツ).L.I.D._/¯]

So that means you could basically jump onto the ban wagon of whichever pro is for the ban? Then you're definitely on top of the world, amirite? ;D

Might as well ban Eddie from Guilty Gear also. You pro-banners are wimps.

I'm telling pros to not be selfish, *******. Learn to read.

 

[OverLade]

Yes, go to Melee plz so when you get 0 to death'd by opponents you can cry about how broken they are and try to ban them. xd



That is true, however, the problem is all the real skilled competitive players know the matchups so well that a scrub can't pick up MK and beat the actual skilled players unless they actually, you know, get good.

Then you also have the problem when "skilled players" beat "other skilled players" just by picking up MK. Fiction beating DEHF just by picking up MK (Other good players having to use MK as a secondaring IE Lain/Sethlon).

It's the "easy way out" mentality that's obnoxious, and it's especially obnoxious when you see someone lose to MK who is clearly the superior player. When good players lose to average players just because the average player is MK that's a problem. A Good Marth wont lose to an average IC's player, but might lose to an average MK player. (just an example)

 

[Zephil]

Technically, he's more like kirbymarth because he's KIRBY under his mask.

...fixed your post

 

[Exceladon City]

Yeah Ruddy, Sheik and Pikachu make Fox cry tears of agony. I used to main him so I'm pretty aware of his weaknesses. MK v Fox isn't that bad if you mind your stage positioning and spacing but even then it's still a pain.

EDIT: ZSS is NOT a bad match-up for Fox. Trust me on this she's cake.

 

[P. O. F.]

Typh won this post on the first page

Antiban.

Why do pro-ban people hid behind the fact that he is bannable instead of learning how to face him.

As said, No Johns, learn to play

LOL, please....look at my previous post.

Get an argument.

People KNOW the matchup....

its called

picking any level
picking meta knight
doing infinite recovery options
not getting gimped, ever.

 

[Sosuke]

Ban Snake1!1!!

LMAO xD

I love how half the MK mains say "LMAO, BAN ***** FOR NO REAL REASON".

 

[Kamikaze*]

Ok did you not read what I said? I said I've been all kinds of hard countered. I think I know my own character rofl.

Sheik, ZSS, PIKA, etc.

If you had paid any attention, I never said once that banning MK makes fox viable. I said it allows me to counterpick. I can counterpick a Pikachu, a Sheik, a Zero Suit Samus. I can't counterpick an MK. And you are really Naive. I know more about brawl fox than you will ever learn in your life. Unless your name is R00kie or Zeton, shut up about fox to me.

That doesn't mean you can't just get better than your opponent and win.

 

[GirugaMarc]

this is still going on?

man...I don't even care anymore lol

 

[OverLade]

Yeah Ruddy, Sheik and Pikachu make Fox cry tears of agony. I used to main him so I'm pretty aware of his weaknesses. MK v Fox isn't that bad if you mind your stage positioning and spacing but even then it's still a pain.

GIGADRAMON FTW. I SEE YOU SON.

 

[Staco]

Then you also have the problem when "skilled players" beat "other skilled players" just by picking up MK. Fiction beating DEHF just by picking up MK (Other good players having to use MK as a secondaring IE Lain/Sethlon).

It's the "easy way out" mentality that's obnoxious, and it's especially obnoxious when you see someone lose to MK who is clearly the superior player. When good players lose to average players just because the average player is MK that's a problem. A Good Marth wont lose to an average IC's player, but might lose to an average MK player. (just an example)

Fiction got MK as his 2nd at all as far as I know.

And I remember SK92 picking MK vs. Fiction @ Evo and getting 2 stocked by his ICs, lmao.

 

[GeneralWoodman]

Pro-Ban is the way to go!