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Yeah I'm satisfied with having heard from Raziek. Kary's silence is pretty revealing in itself.
Actually this definitely happened in Glyph's Muscles where everyone thought you were scum, and in fact you were scum there.
What was your point in saying this?
Yes, but was the point to show that you found his statement scummy, or just felt like disproving his point?
I think it would be a stretch to call that statement scummy, it was more to call him out on abusing AtE instead of buckling down and giving us content; just because a lot of people think he's scum, that doesn't mean that we should feel bad for him, it doesn't mean he can't be scum and it doesn't mean AtE is an acceptable alternative to giving reads and providing content.
Kantrip votes Kary. He mentions he didn't read. Think to yourself, how many times did Kantrip mention he didn't read?
Ok then. At first I thought Bardul was trying to alert his scumteam that he was the traitor. Now, I don't think this is the case. Follow along, kiddies.
Oh, Kantrip then believes Bardull is scum with Zen, trying to distance for NO reason. Ok. So he unvotes, since now he thinks the guilty is FAKE due to Zen possibly being scum with Bardull. Ok. Continue along ladies. Look to see if Kantrip follows through with his stances on Zen and Bardull.
What is this? He isn't sure, yet tells them to be less obvious? (While it seems Bardull and Kantrip are being pretty damn obvious). This comment doesn't seem genuine, I don't see the point in saying that to his possible scumpicks distancing each other. It doesn't accomplish anything but to make his fake concerns justified . Get me? Follow along.Actually yes, you and Zen are trying to distance. Not sure if scum or neighbours or masons or what though. Just, be a little less obvious please
He says he unvoted because he feels that he doesn't need the pressure, and that if the guilty is legit, that it can be done later. His reasoning HAS NOTHING about the 'distancing'. He's changing up his story. This shows he may want to avoid voting Kary, and that he doesn't really care about Bardull and Zen distancing, making the whole point of unvoting Kary moot.
Oh hey. Again, he avoids Kary. This time trying to paint J as scum, and as if Kantrip knows that Kary's flip will be town. This is very scummy and opportunistic. He said he'd go back to him if the guilty was legit, but now he is going against his word.
Bardull only leaves the Kary wagon AFTER Kantrip makes his switch. I don't know why Bardull waited until after, but this seems like an unorganized scumteam switching and others having to drop their pushes to keep the teams interests at heart.I'm inclined to agree, honestly. Kary's AtE was off the wall and didn't really feel like scum AtE.
Oh hey. Now Bardull is town. Not scum with Zen. This shows Kantrip didn't really think Bardull was distancing with Zen, and it shows the whole point of that was to AVOID VOTING KARY.
Oh hey look, Bardull made up too. This is very convincing town on town finding each other. Not.Kantrip town for just being a bro in general.
Do they think people can't notice this is bull ****?
It's because he doesn't want to see it that way. He's trying to force it.
Explain the bolded, and I am planning to look into Raz more, hence why I want to see where his reads progress. What exactly do you want to see me do with him right now?
It felt like you were trying to discredit him, as if you are trying to make your stance on J stronger by popping in and bringing up a point that I don't think would matter. How strongly do you believe J is scum? With regards to Raz, I just thought you'd do a bit more with it since you wanted to do alot ToDay, and I don't see that.
Yeah I understand that.
Bolded: You mean the Glyph's Muscles thing I brought up with J? It just bothered me that J was using "everyone's against me and this never happens to me" to AtE when it's not true and he could be using that energy to produce real content.
I really hate reading Kantrip because I always find him scummy. His play thus far has really given me the feeling that he doesn't really care what's happening which is tied to him not reading the game. I've been reading him more as lazy/non-helpful town than scum.
Ok then July. One more thing. What did you think of this post by Kantrip? You too, Bardull. Does this seem like Kantrip trying to swing the wagon towards J instead of Kary?
Because he seemed to be playing like he did there, and not anywhere else I have played with him. Can you answer my question.Ran, why did you out Kary's scum meta at the beginning of the game?
I actually had the same sentiment at the time that I read J's reaction to Kary's AtE because at that time I was still heavily doubtful of the legitimacy of Zen's results. I think that at the time, where Zen hadn't announced that he was one-shot and there was still speculation towards whether or not his result on Kary was a gambit, this was a valid stance to take. So yeah, I think Kantrip was trying to go J rather than Kary, but I don't think it has innately scummy intent like you seem to.
